Things I Love

[The Ween]

I love how my yard looks after I just mowed it and pulled weeds, trimmed hedges, etc...

I just hate doing the work.

I hear ya! It's been too cold and rainy here to start any lawn work yet, but I see what's in my near future. UGH! I have willow trees and they make a real mess during the winter. I'll have all that to clean up plus all the other twigs and stuff that falls from mine and the neighbors trees. Then I'll have flower beds to work on and boy do mine need work!

Though this should be in the hate thread, my neighbor has a Sweet Gum tree right on the borderline with my property. It drops these balls all over. HUNDREDS OF THEM! They're hard to rake up or mow over. It's a pretty tree, but these things are hard and if you step on one, you can slip and fall.

Sorry for the big pic....they are about the size of a quarter:

 

[Maglor]

Ozzy tried to be the original anti-christ, later copied by Marilyn Manson. He dubbed himself Prince of Darkness. He was not Christian, he was a doped up and ____faced rock star.

Yes, Ozzy was quite a showman. I never said he was a Christian (though he wore a cross), but the Satanism was just bluster.

And War Pigs is a political song about Vietnam.

I know what the song is about.

Like I said it is about the end of war-mongers (specifically those behind Vietnam) at the hand of God by means of Judgement Day.

I think the last lyric "Satan, laughing, spreads his wings" sums up the song pretty well.

Satan (the lover of death and corruption) laughs at the end because he is the one pulling the strings of the War Pigs knowing that it will lead to their damnation. He has succeeded. Yes, it sums up the song perfectly, and is arguably my favorite line.

If you're still confused, go back and read the whole song again.

But if we keep talking about this we're going to get infractions so...

Why is it that all the interesting discussions have to lead that way?


I am not debating religion. I'm debating metal!!!

 

[CLU]

typical christian metal, viking lords would cut them off and shove them down yer throat.

Christians would impale them.

 

[Jen]

Ozzy tried to be the original anti-christ, later copied by Marilyn Manson. He dubbed himself Prince of Darkness. He was not Christian, he was a doped up and ____faced rock star. And War Pigs is a political song about Vietnam. I think the last lyric "Satan, laughing, spreads his wings" sums up the song pretty well.

But if we keep talking about this we're going to get infractions so...

Well maybe you should not have said ALL metal was Satanic and just specified that a few might have been. I've met Ozzy, my boss is very good friends with his wife - and for the record he is not and never was satanic. Sometimes gimmicks get attention and record sales.

I hear ya! It's been too cold and rainy here to start any lawn work yet, but I see what's in my near future. UGH! I have willow trees and they make a real mess during the winter. I'll have all that to clean up plus all the other twigs and stuff that falls from mine and the neighbors trees. Then I'll have flower beds to work on and boy do mine need work!

Though this should be in the hate thread, my neighbor has a Sweet Gum tree right on the borderline with my property. It drops these balls all over. HUNDREDS OF THEM! They're hard to rake up or mow over. It's a pretty tree, but these things are hard and if you step on one, you can slip and fall.

Sorry for the big pic....they are about the size of a quarter:

So that is what those things are called! I see them every once in awhile..I always found them to be rather cool looking and have picked up a few that I have in my strange rocks and acorns collection.

I would absolutely hate it though if they were all over my yard.

 

[CLU]

But if we keep talking about this we're going to get infractions so...

Yea so stop talking about it. I was on topic when I said I liked Christian metal and then all the religion hating/fearing ____s jumped on me.

 

[Maglor]

Well maybe you should not have said ALL metal was Satanic and just specified that a few might have been. I've met Ozzy, my boss is very good friends with his wife - and for the record he is not and never was satanic. Sometimes gimmicks get attention and record sales.

 

[fosing]

I appreciate that. I don't want to hear the name "Jesus" in my Metal. Frankly, I see that as irreverent. And I can't stand Christian Rock.

if christian metal is like non alcoholic beer.
christian rock is like beer flavored water.

What I find distasteful, and frankly ironic, is when a Norse band sings the praises of "Satan" who is a decidedly Christian figure. Meaning, he isn't part of Nordic culture, and comes from the beliefs of those they hate.

i blame the foreign horde for that one. they occupied and labeled their simple way of life "satanic", it was bound to happen. same can be said with the likes of baal and company, fertility gods turned demons after the foreign horde occupied and took power and edited their colorful background.

 

[The Ween]

Ozzie actually is a Christian. When they used to have his show on MTV they talked about it.

Jen, I'd gladly send you some of those prickly balls. Under the tree right now you can't see the grass there's so many. If you keep the tree trimmed back, they don't make as many, but our neighbor doesn't take care of his property, so these are everywhere. You can make wreaths and things with them, but I just find them a pain in the butt!

 

[Jen]

Ozzie actually is a Christian. When they used to have his show on MTV they talked about it.

Jen, I'd gladly send you some of those prickly balls. Under the tree right now you can't see the grass there's so many. If you keep the tree trimmed back, they don't make as many, but our neighbor doesn't take care of his property, so these are everywhere. You can make wreaths and things with them, but I just find them a pain in the butt!

Thanks - but I have enough. I think I have 4 or 5 and that's really all I need. I collect enough things as it is.

My neighbor is like yours. He mows his yard maybe twice a year. The worst thing is he has a million dandelions. I hardly had any a couple years ago - now my yard is so full of them because he just lets his go to seed and they all get blown into my yard. Crappy lazy neighbor...he makes my yard work so much more difficult than it should be.

 

[Cloud]

I know the lyrics to War Pigs, Mag. I don't need to read them. Longtime Ozzy fan here. But both Ozzy and Dio danced in the guise of Satanism. As a money-making gimmick? Maybe. Real Satanists a la Anton LaVey were chummy with rock stars though. Metal in particular has always invoked "demonic" themes, like Ween said, the Evangelical protesters dubbed the hand to stand for Satan, and most people today think that's really what it means when they flash that sign. I was a product of the 90s and rock stars like Trent Reznor and Marilyn Manson (buddies, the two of them) did dabble in the occult and make no secret about it. Heck Manson brags about it (I watched his "Celebrity Ghost Story" show - complete BS that one, I read his autobiography and he would have mentioned that story in it if it had really happened).

It's just in vogue to think of metal as being Satanic, and mainly that's a negative point to most people, but it's marketed to young, rebellious kids who think evil is pretty cool. So "Christian Metal" is almost like an oxymoron and that's why it sticks out like a sore thumb.

 

[CLU]

seriously dude...seriously...

 

[Jen]

I always thought meant "Yeah that f'n ROCKS!"

 

[CLU]

I always thought meant "Yeah that f'n ROCKS!"

that is what it means....

 

[fosing]

Black Sabbath song of choice here should have been NIB.

Ozzy tried to be the original anti-christ, later copied by Marilyn Manson. He dubbed himself Prince of Darkness. He was not Christian, he was a doped up and ____faced rock star. And War Pigs is a political song about Vietnam. I think the last lyric "Satan, laughing, spreads his wings" sums up the song pretty well.

But if we keep talking about this we're going to get infractions so...

Marilyn Manson was all about the shock value. over hyped show band the least now. his earlier albums were interesting though, specially back when NIN's Trent Reznor was behind them. a nihilist too.

 

[Jen]

that is what it means....

 

[The Ween]

Thanks - but I have enough. I think I have 4 or 5 and that's really all I need. I collect enough things as it is.

My neighbor is like yours. He mows his yard maybe twice a year. The worst thing is he has a million dandelions. I hardly had any a couple years ago - now my yard is so full of them because he just lets his go to seed and they all get blown into my yard. Crappy lazy neighbor...he makes my yard work so much more difficult than it should be.

We need sexy gardeners, Jen. We can sit on the porch, sipping lemonade, watching them work and get all sweaty.

 

[Cloud]

Ozzie actually is a Christian. When they used to have his show on MTV they talked about it.

I watched every episode of The Osbournes. They were not Christian and they never talked about it. They had crucifixes and crosses all over their house to cool and blasphemous. Sharon decided she wanted to be Jewish halfway through when they renewed their wedding vows.

You're terrible at interpreting music you know that? When Ozzy said that he wasn't praising satan in any way he was just referring to satan's excitement for all the war pigs souls who are going to hell.

You're terrible at interpreting people you know that? When I said that line sums up the song THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I MEANT. You need to stop talking down to me, pal. Or I'll cast a hoodoo curse on you.

 

[Batty]

We need sexy gardeners, Jen. We can sit on the porch, sipping lemonade, watching them work and get all sweaty.

Oh, okay....

 

[fosing]

I always thought meant "Yeah that f'n ROCKS!"

and it f'n is.
thought to ward off evil spirits, according to old mystics.

 

[Jen]

We need sexy gardeners, Jen. We can sit on the porch, sipping lemonade, watching them work and get all sweaty.

I agree 100%! That would be the life....*sigh* Either that or I need to find myself a sexy man who will do my yard work for me.