Things that I marvel at

[crows]

If you’re referring to the recent vote to no longer acknowledge the science of recognizing a human child as a living person, I have some common sense input. In my view, the good thing about the 8th amendment there in Ireland was that it acknowledged liberty for all life. No longer acknowledging the rights to life and liberty of one person to the extent of allowing someone to kill them unjustly prioritizes one life over another. A similar kind of ruling was made by the Supreme Court of my country in 1973 and it has lead to a rapid decline in the value of life. As more generations grow up in a country that doesn’t value the liberty of all life, depression runs rampant, gangs devolve from physically fighting each other to killing each other, and senseless acts like mass shootings in high schools become commonplace. I feel like the whole “religious” thing really shouldn’t be a reason to turn a blind eye to the science of life and the right to liberty. Still, you’re right, there’s a double standard to pushing one religion away in the name of “atheism,” while defending and embracing another. Especially when the religion they’re defending throws people off of buildings for being homosexual, suppresses women’s rights to the extent of stoning them to death for adultery when they’re *****, and murders people of any other religion or even each other for varying religious beliefs.


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wait, can you explain a little bit more about the 1973 ruling? how is it affecting us now?

 

[a-dev]

If you’re referring to the recent vote to no longer acknowledge the science of recognizing a human child as a living person, I have some common sense input. In my view, the good thing about the 8th amendment there in Ireland was that it acknowledged liberty for all life. No longer acknowledging the rights to life and liberty of one person to the extent of allowing someone to kill them unjustly prioritizes one life over another. A similar kind of ruling was made by the Supreme Court of my country in 1973 and it has lead to a rapid decline in the value of life. As more generations grow up in a country that doesn’t value the liberty of all life, depression runs rampant, gangs devolve from physically fighting each other to killing each other, and senseless acts like mass shootings in high schools become commonplace. I feel like the whole “religious” thing really shouldn’t be a reason to turn a blind eye to the science of life and the right to liberty. Still, you’re right, there’s a double standard to pushing one religion away in the name of “atheism,” while defending and embracing another. Especially when the religion they’re defending throws people off of buildings for being homosexual, suppresses women’s rights to the extent of stoning them to death for adultery when they’re *****, and murders people of any other religion or even each other for varying religious beliefs.


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The latter stuff was the thrust of what I was saying.

And you surmised correctly that it arose from the abortion vote that just happened in Ireland. Islam came up because Christopher Hitchens came up and one of my facebook friends referred to him as 'the father of Islam-panic'.

 

[Cicada17]

wait, can you explain a little bit more about the 1973 ruling? how is it affecting us now?

I’m referring to Roe Vs. Wade. The ruling determined a doctor isn’t criminally liable for ending the life of an unborn child as long as he has permission from the mother to perform an abortion. Before Roe Vs. Wade, doctors could be tried for the death of a person if they performed an abortion. By determining that the mother should be able to decide to allow a doctor to kill her baby, the Supreme Court set a precedent that life in the womb doesn’t have the same rights as life outside the womb. The thing is, it’s just a ruling, not a law. And the Supreme Court has changed many of it’s rulings throughout history; mostly rulings that eventually, through progression of society, were shown to be immoral and outdated. Roe Vs. Wade ruling was made before the first ultrasound was possible. Since then, we’ve advanced to 3D ultrasounds and studies in human growth and development have scientifically proven that a baby within the womb is indeed a human being. Advanced Neonatal Intensive Care units can sustain a baby outside the womb about halfway through pregnancy (when a mother is barely showing). Which is why I never understand why anyone focuses their attacks on religion while turning a blind eye to the progression of science, and ignoring the rights of the child. Still, our States have many regulations about abortion based on the outdated Roe Vs. Wade ruling from 1973. It was later determined that “Jane Roe” was not *****, as the lawyers insisted, and she never actually had an abortion. She now admits she felt used as a pawn in the case.
This ruling still effects us now because at it’s root it fundamentally devalues human life while hiding behind a campaign pushing the lie that a right to choice is more important than a right to life. Since this ruling, 60.5 million Americans including over half of all African Americans have been killed in abortion; a genocide referred to as eugenics. Eugenics is a racist idea of “purifying” the human species by systematically eliminating people of color. Margaret Sanger, fan of Adolf Hitler and hero to Hillary Clinton, was a passionate believer in eugenics and created the Planned Parenthood organization to further the purpose of eugenics. Planned Parenthood has since performed the vast majority of all abortions in The United States.
By devaluing the human life and liberty of the unborn, our country has set a slow course towards the end of liberty all together. Which is why our founding fathers worded the constitution the way they did. They understood that everyone is created with certain unalienable rights including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now that those rights are recognized by the government, the people would not suddenly give them up without a fight; the only way we could lose them is through gradual infringement.
Think about it this way: What kind of society allows one person to decide whether an innocent person lives or dies? Since we’re now a few generations into this ruling, we are really seeing the way it affects society as a whole. Many people are selfish and vain, only concerned with image and virtue signaling while not genuinely caring for others. (Which is a major factor in the skyrocketing divorce rate.) Many people have been raised with no comprehension of the value of a human life. So we no longer see gang beat downs, we see gang murders. We see frustrated teens killing each other in the streets and through mass shootings in schools.
It didn’t use to be this way. There was a general societal understanding that each person has value and rights to life and liberty.


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[GeneralZodLives]

I don't know if you can actually extrapolate the degradation of morality in society as a whole with the legalization of abortions. There are definitely groups that would like everyone to believe that the fall of the USA as a country is due to it, but those are the same groups that would jump on anything as a reason if it didn't go along with their beliefs. Even if abortions are made illegal in the US, women are still going to get them. Doctors are still going to perform them. Leave it legal and let each person decide on their own if they will get one. I see too many people with kids they can't raise as it is. Advocating for celibacy doesn't work for **** and birth control is still vilified by some groups, so I continue to lean toward requiring a license to have a child with a limit of children per household. Just for good measure, throw in sterilization as punishment for having a child without a license. Otherwise, we end up with this...

 

[Snake Plissken]

No one needs to have nine ****ing government leeches.

 

[Cicada17]

Zod, you’re right about abortion not being a sole cause of societal degradation. I did go into quite a bit of detail on the topic because it relates to the recent decision in Ireland, but I didn’t mean to leave the impression that abortion is the only issue.
I respectfully disagree about licensing anything. IMO, Allowing the government to license reproductive rights is straight up tyrannical. That’s the communist Chinese policy, which is the model for world government. What happens to liberty in that ideology?
Snake, as far as “nine government leeches” goes: you are absolutely correct. It is not the government’s job to care for anyone. Their job is to protect our rights from enemies foreign and domestic. It’s sad when a family can’t provide for itself, but that’s where community and local churches need to step in.


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[Snake Plissken]

The government is there to help people in need, but it's ridiculous the amount of irresponsibility out there right now. And a lot of the time they're illegitimate.

I got a scumbag neighbor that has two kids by two different women at 25 and he doesn't even bother with them.

Instead of licenses, draw a line in the sand with how much assistance they get after a certain number of children. There's no penalty or repercussions for being this way. There's way too many foo-stamp queens out there that made a career of breeding like rats.

 

[Cicada17]

That’s just sad, man. I understand that we all collect action figures, so it’s gonna sound ironic, but your neighbor needs to grow up.


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[Cicada17]

There absolutely needs to be some sort of limit on that kind of aid. Otherwise, there can really be no limit on taxes that pay for it.


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[Cicada17]

Although I’m pretty certain none of the worlds’ problems are going to be solved on an action figure forum, I really love that we can discuss these kind of topics in a way everyone should. I’ve enjoyed this thread ever since I discovered it a few months ago.


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[Snake Plissken]

All would be right with the world if Hot Toys did a Kyle Reese and the rest of the Predator team.

 

[Cicada17]

I mean, yeah: without Kyle Reese there can be no John Conner. Without John Conner, there is no hope for humanity.


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[Shawpaw]

The world needs

- Licensing exam to have kids
- Government stipend for those who wish to have hysterectomy/vasectomy, etc.
- Less gov funding for **** parents

 

[GeneralZodLives]

Zod, you’re right about abortion not being a sole cause of societal degradation. I did go into quite a bit of detail on the topic because it relates to the recent decision in Ireland, but I didn’t mean to leave the impression that abortion is the only issue.
I respectfully disagree about licensing anything. IMO, Allowing the government to license reproductive rights is straight up tyrannical. That’s the communist Chinese policy, which is the model for world government. What happens to liberty in that ideology?
Snake, as far as “nine government leeches” goes: you are absolutely correct. It is not the government’s job to care for anyone. Their job is to protect our rights from enemies foreign and domestic. It’s sad when a family can’t provide for itself, but that’s where community and local churches need to step in.


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I disagree that the government shouldn't be able to license reproductive rights. A clinic has to have a license to do business. A doctor has to have a license to practice medicine. Both of those licenses are necessary to perform a legal abortion. I know requiring a license to have a child sounds silly, but there are no consequences for someone having more kids than they should. Even limiting aid to people with a hundred kids isn't going to stop them from having more. Right now in the US, it's legal for someone to have as many kids as they can **** out, and it's legal to limit the amount of children you have by having an abortion. Let clinics decide if they'll allow the procedure to be performed in their business, let doctors decide if they'll perform the procedure, and let people decide if they have the procedure done.

As for Ireland legalizing abortion, women were going to great lengths to get them done--many saving up to travel out of the country to get an abortion where it is legal. Making abortion illegal doesn't stop it from existing. It's like trying to stop people using drugs or drunk driving--both are illegal and they still happen. People are not going to stop ****ing, and even with birth control, accidents happen. I just don't understand how the procedure is anyone's business but the people directly involved.

Also, I 100% agree--HT should absolutely make a Reese figure.

 

[crows]

 

[RIDDICK]

FOXN tho, so it's fake news.

 

[crows]

FOXN tho, so it's fake news.

google it in russian
give me the russian link

 

[Snake Plissken]

Those who resist arrest and hit cops are now victims.

 

[crows]

i cant wait till the cops go on strike it will be mad max for real

 

[Snake Plissken]

Can't trust cops.

Only the cops can have guns.

Make up your mind.