Tom Hardy is Venom (2018)

[Darkseed]

Good stuff here....more fun than JL

 

[SNIKT1950]

Why would anyone be excited about a "hard R" Spiderverse?

Like the Fox-verse, it's a refreshing alternative to Disney's bland, uber-safe, made-for-kids cinematic universe.

The talent it's attracting (Hardy, Williams, Fleischer, etc) is also very indicative of the serious tone they're aiming for, which right now is completely absent from the MCU's take on Spidey.

 

[YoNoSe]

Like the Fox-verse, it's a refreshing alternative to Disney's bland, uber-safe, made-for-kids cinematic universe.

The talent it's attracting (Hardy, Williams, Fleischer, etc) is also very indicative of the serious tone they're aiming for, which right now is completely absent from the MCU's take on Spidey.

So simply for contrarianism?

 

[a-dev]

Contrarianism, it's Faaantastic!

 

[YoNoSe]

Contrarianism, it's Faaantastic!

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I miss him especially after Twin Peaks this summer.

Thanks for bringing it up.

 

[Snake Plissken]

RIP Bob Morton.

 

[a-dev]

The most recent thing I know he was in as a semi-regular was one of the NCIS shows.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I gotta neighbor that's pretty much the spitting image of him, and I unfortunately hate his ****ing guts.

 

[YoNoSe]

The most recent thing I know he was in as a semi-regular was one of the NCIS shows.

He has some killer lines in Twin Peaks. But if you're not a Lynch fan I'd guess it's too much of a slog to appreciate them in context.

 

[SNIKT1950]

So simply for contrarianism?

No, mainly because some of us CBM fans aren't teenagers and need something a bit more intellectually and tonally stimulating than the safe fare coming from Disney.

Naturally, there are people who gravitate towards said safe fare that aren't mentally capable of steering clear from a thread for something they clearly won't like or understand because it's very much the opposite of "safe".

 

[Johnny Utah]

Contrarianism, it's Faaantastic!

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RIP Miguel.

 

[YoNoSe]

No, mainly because some of us CBM fans aren't teenagers and need something a bit more intellectually and tonally stimulating than the safe fare coming from Disney.

Naturally, there are people who gravitate towards said safe fare that aren't mentally capable of steering clear from a thread for something they clearly won't like or understand because it's very much the opposite of "safe".

There are also people who are mentally capable of understanding that a “hard R” rating as a goal is nothing to get excited about because it indicates nothing except curse words, nudity and gore. The stuff teenagers consider mature and “tonally stimulating.”

 

[karamazov80]

I just looked up "sophistication" in the Google dictionary. This is what I get:

noun

the quality of being sophisticated.
"her air of sophistication"
synonyms: curse words, nudity, and gore; Sony Pictures
"Walt Disney is an unsophisticated jerkhole"​

 

[YoNoSe]

*looks up jerkhole*

 

[SNIKT1950]

There are also people who are mentally capable of understanding that a “hard R” rating as a goal is nothing to get excited about because it indicates nothing except curse words, nudity and gore. The stuff teenagers consider mature and “tonally stimulating.”

The 'R' rating isn't the "goal". The goal is content that isn't held back by a studio mandate to cater to children because they believe it equates to more seats (for further clarification on why an 'R' rating is a door to better content see James Mangold's Logan).

 

[karamazov80]

Exhibit B:

 

[YoNoSe]

The 'R' rating isn't the "goal". The goal is content that isn't held back by a studio mandate to cater to children because they believe it equates to more seats (for further clarification on why an 'R' rating is a door to better content see James Mangold's Logan).

But you said you’re stoked about a hard R Spiderverse. “Hard R” is a term for movies with extremely risque content, not “better” content.

A studio mandate for any rating is counter-intuitive to creative freedom. Hard R Spideyverse is just that. Hard R. Nothing to be stoked about IMO.

 

[Snake Plissken]

But you said you’re stoked about a hard R Spiderverse. “Hard R” is a term for movies with extremely risque content, not “better” content.

A studio mandate for any rating is counter-intuitive to creative freedom. Hard R Spideyverse is just that. Hard R. Nothing to be stoked about IMO.

Sony has **** out three bad Spidey films in a row, but muh R!

Retarded-Rated

 

[Thomascrown17]

I always laugh at "disney mcu kiddie film". I mean. I can watch a kiddie film, an adult film, a moron film, a sophisticated film, a girlie film and still be entertained. Sony is coming off TASM wich sucked a$$ in my books. This venom movie could be a hard xxx i still wouldn't care (ok maybe just a lil)


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[SNIKT1950]

A studio mandate for any rating is counter-intuitive to creative freedom. Hard R Spideyverse is just that. Hard R. Nothing to be stoked about IMO.

*This convo is starting to annoy me but I'll respond because I'm bored at the gym.

As a filmmaker myself, I can tell you that knowing you aren't able to do certain things because you won't remain within the PG-13 terrain is exhausting. Its not about trying to make your movie "Hard R". Its about letting the story you're trying to tell, flow naturally. Cletus Kasady is a serial killer. Eddie Brock is a sociopath. Imagine Michael Mann's Heat done PG-13. **** that.

SONY granting their auteurs the freedom of an 'R' rating is something to be celebrated. This "Hard 'R' is nothing to be stoked about" attitude is idiotic. Its like wanting more of the crap that's happening over at Disney and WB to taint every CBM being conceived.

I thank God for FOX's Marvel efforts and SONY's proposed Spider-verse. Without the aforementioned this genre would be ****ing dead.