U.S. Tax Rebate Schedule 2008

[occulum]

mine showed up today....

 

[Agent23]

mine showed up today....

Do you have direct deposit?

If so, what time did it go in at?

Nothing for me still...

 

[occulum]

yeah I have DD.

have no idea what time.
We had a lot of bad weather & tornados around here last night and power is out everywhere so I was just now able to check my account for the first time today.
its listed as a pending deposit at the moment

 

[Agent23]

Ok, thanks.

 

[Dusty]

The government has absolutely no control over what is happening to gas. It's about supply and demand. China and India are what is making gas go up. Did you know that China is building a road infrastructure like the US. Guess what roads are made of? The same goes for India. What about all of the plastics that are being used? As more and more countries develop, the price of petroleum will continue to rise. Get use to paying more for gas because it is only going to get higher. It doesn't matter who is elected into office or who runs Congress.

It matters who gets elected and runs Congress if they are smart enough to put a priority on finding a way to live without gas and oil. That's who we need in charge, someone able to think outside the box, not old geezers who are 'owned' by the oil companies.

(and Andy was being sarcastic... don't forget to use emoticons Andy! )

 

[Vader AL]

The government has absolutely no control over what is happening to gas. It's about supply and demand. China and India are what is making gas go up. Did you know that China is building a road infrastructure like the US. Guess what roads are made of? The same goes for India. What about all of the plastics that are being used? As more and more countries develop, the price of petroleum will continue to rise. Get use to paying more for gas because it is only going to get higher. It doesn't matter who is elected into office or who runs Congress.

He speaks the truth. we're paying the price of our cheap goods (our factories over in China/India), we're providing jobs for them and in return we get cheaper goods BUT we increase their standard of living which includes driving, etc. which increases their demand for oil thus driving up our price of oil.

We just need to pry ourselves off of oil as much as we can.

 

[The Chaver]

The government has absolutely no control over what is happening to gas. It's about supply and demand. China and India are what is making gas go up. Did you know that China is building a road infrastructure like the US. Guess what roads are made of? The same goes for India. What about all of the plastics that are being used? As more and more countries develop, the price of petroleum will continue to rise. Get use to paying more for gas because it is only going to get higher. It doesn't matter who is elected into office or who runs Congress.

The Gov. has total control,they are the ones who allowed the creation of it's over use.I'm sure there's another way that's easier and more affordable,but then they wouldn't make money off it.They count on oils scarcity,on that,they can raise the price up and down as they see fit,because it is the only thing in place that keeps the machine going.And that's the way they want it.

 

[drbrad1975]

It matters who gets elected and runs Congress if they are smart enough to put a priority on finding a way to live without gas and oil. That's who we need in charge, someone able to think outside the box, not old geezers who are 'owned' by the oil companies.

(and Andy was being sarcastic... don't forget to use emoticons Andy! )

You don't think that companies aren't looking into this? There are so many companies now that looking into just that, just look at the NYSE. The government and car companies (GM for instance) are even subsidizing these companies that are looking into just that. This isn't something new. There are problems and pitfalls into every single type of fuel resource. If you want more information, just read the article published in Road and Track recently. We all like to think that there is some big bad conspiracy to this whole "oil crisis" but the reality is much different.

 

[drbrad1975]

The Gov. has total control,they are the ones who allowed the creation of it's over use.I'm sure there's another way that's easier and more affordable,but then they wouldn't make money off it.They count on oils scarcity,on that,they can raise the price up and down as they see fit,because it is the only thing in place that keeps the machine going.And that's the way they want it.

Please explain this one? The only thing that our government has control over is our own oil reserves. Do you want the government to regulate it's use? How do you suppose it accomplishes this? Petroleum is so ubiquitous that we can't get away from it, and as the population of the world grows, the supplies that are now extant will continue to diminish.

 

[The Chaver]

Please explain this one? The only thing that our government has control over is our own oil reserves. Do you want the government to regulate it's use? How do you suppose it accomplishes this? Petroleum is so ubiquitous that we can't get away from it, and as the population of the world grows, the supplies that are now extant will continue to diminish.

What I meant to say is that ALL governments are in control of it,some more than others.

 

[devilof76]

I'm sure Herr Obama will fix everything.

 

[drbrad1975]

What I meant to say is that ALL governments are in control of it,some more than others.

Well, I can't respond to that because there are so many complexities that I wouldn't even know where to start. Every government on this earth wants this valuable resource, and we all want more of it than the next guy. Every single economy on this earth is dependent on it in some way or another. No government wants a sagging economy. It's a finite resource, and that makes it even more valuable. I will agree with everyone that we need to find some alternative energy resource other than oil. There is so much research being done right now to find that answer. To say that no one is looking for that answer is just wrong (and so is the billions and billions of dollars spent researching this question.) The one who comes up with that answer is going to so stupid rich, and greed is what this is all about.

 

[devilof76]

Who let the governments start running the economies?

If you want to fix this problem, that would be a really good place to start.

Did people learn nothing from WWII???

 

[Sick Boy 82]

Screw it, I'm getting a SIM for $29 because of this! Thank you IRS and the US Government!

 

[devilof76]

It's awesome to get the money. It was ours in the first place, and we should never have let it get pickpocketed to begin with.

But it's kind of like putting a bandaid on a slashed juggular if the idea is to fix the blood loss.

 

[Malice]

got mine today DD =]

 

[drbrad1975]

Who let the governments start running the economies?

If you want to fix this problem, that would be a really good place to start.

Did people learn nothing from WWII???

It's sad but governments have a lot to do with it. For instance, taxes, environmental regulations, human rights, tariffs, etc., all have a profound influence on who buys what and where businesses go to do their business. However, I don't think our sagging economy has anything to do with the above. To me, it's more to do with over-spending of our population by both the government and the people. If oil was our only concern, our economy would still be viable today in my opinion. Just about everyone I know lived way above their means, and it's coming back to haunt them.

 

[devilof76]

People are encouraged to live beyond their means by a government that seeks to provide them with a safety net against reality.

Remove the safety nets, and they have no choice but to learn.

It's a little too late for that though. Even responsible people are having their wealth squandered hand over fist by those who believe they know how best to spend what is not theirs. The change is about a century overdue, and by now it has a snowflake's chance in a volcano of coming about before the bottom falls out.

C'est la vie.

 

[Dusty]

It's sad but governments have a lot to do with it. For instance, taxes, environmental regulations, human rights, tariffs, etc., all have a profound influence on who buys what and where businesses go to do their business. However, I don't think our sagging economy has anything to do with the above. To me, it's more to do with over-spending of our population by both the government and the people. If oil was our only concern, our economy would still be viable today in my opinion. Just about everyone I know lived way above their means, and it's coming back to haunt them.

But living way above our means is the American way!! Plus it makes SOMEBODY wealthy (mortgage, credit card, and insurance companies to name a few)... so isn't that supposed to HELP our economy, if the idea behind tax breaks for the wealthy is correct? All I see is the wealthier become even more wealthy (or losing their wealth altogether since they've been encouraged to live beyond their means and were stupid with their money) and the poor becoming poorer.

Our government could DEFINITELY have more input into the ability to create alternate forms of energy. If you don't think that being in the pocket of oil companies keeps them - at least partly - from doing that to the extent that they could, well, I don't know what to say. Instead of giving millions in tax breaks to incredibly wealthy people, they could be putting that money to good use by funding MORE AND BETTER experimentation and state incentives to switch to alternative forms of energy. (oh, and they could have stayed out of the war too - that probably would have helped on the money end)

I think of this as the next 'space race'. The government put incredible amounts of resources into the space race, and landed on the moon first and all that, as a matter of national pride. Could they not put as much national pride into the 'energy race'? I have complete confidence that our scientists and government agencies could come up with a stable and abundant form of alternative energy within, say, 5-10 years, IF they had the proper resources at their disposal and it was truly made a priority. My sister's a research scientist with a Masters and PhD, and the sad fact of the matter is that, over the past 8-10 years, government funding has almost completely gone out the window for the sciences. It's all almost entirely private, and sorry, but that's just not gonna cut it. In fact, she's going to Switzerland to do research for a year for THEIR government because of it. We are losing our best and brightest minds because of our Dark Age ideas of ruling by fear and 'whoever has the biggest guns wins'. Terrorists don't care if you have big guns and come in fighting... they are weasly b@$t@rds who will find a way to terrorize no matter how big your military may be. The only way to come out ahead in the 21st century and beyond is through education and intelligence - not brute force... much in the way we won our independence originally. Oh, and stop getting sidetracked by gay marriage and whether or not to legalize marijuana! Just let them be married and smoke pot, already, and you've saved yourself a bunch of cash and time right there!

All in my humble opinion of course Don't want to start some sort of flame war here!

Can you tell I'm a bit disillusioned with our government the way it stands right now?

And, to tie it all back on topic, this 'rebate' is nothing but a political stunt to try to pull the wool over our eyes and make it seem like something awesome... just like the proposed - and preposterous - 'gas tax holiday'. If that actually happens, I really am gonna make good on my word to move to Canada <----not really kidding

I would gladly forego my tax rebate if they promised to put it into government funded scientific research... I wish they would give us the option. I budgeted correctly throughout the year and do not NEED this money. I hesitate to give to privately funded companies because of all the horror stories of what's REALLY going on with your money. Obviously the government isn't much better, but at least I feel like I at least have *some* say in it, since this country is supposedly a democracy.

That being said, my money will not be going toward the purchase of un-needed items, thus will not be falsely 'inflating' the economy - I'm donating to a bunch of friends who are participating in an upcoming Susan G. Komen race for breast cancer research

 

[devilof76]

It's not their money and it's not their oil. The government needs to get out of the energy business immediately. They have no right, and the people they represent have no right to ask them to use the money or to control the oil either. Period.

I'll shut up now.