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Fedor is only on strikeforce so they can say "Look we have Fedor".

Fedor vs Lesner will happen someday. It is just a matter of money.. Both groups know they can make a fortune with that fight. It might not be this year, but you can be sure it will be 2011 at the latest. I believe Lesner has the advantage, however he can be submitted. It is time for Fedor to kick Shields ass all over the place. That guy can't throw a punch to save his life..
 
Miller really shouldn't get bad mouthed for this imo. All he did was interupt Jake Shats interview and then Shats camp went ape ____, Shats threw a girling punch and then all hell broke loose. Miller is an attention whore, everyone knows that. He was attempting to hype a possible match in the future and Shats and his camp went off the deep end, for no reason.

That nonsense aside, Strikeforce did nothing more than turn off would be MMA fans, and continues to do nothing for hard core MMA fans. Total fail. Thnx Strikeforce.

I think MMA missed its window to become a true 'mainstream' sport. If it was gonna happen it was gonna happpen with EliteXC and the Kimbo hype when non MMA people were really willing to buy into it. The moment has passed, so unless MMA can produce a star to grab the everyday shmoes attention, the sport is gonna stay where it is. Which is fine, its making shat loads of money and generally pleasing its true fan base.

UFC is where its at in the US, and thats were its gonna stay. Period.

Thnx Affliction/Elite XC/Strikeforce. Dont let the door hit you in the ass :wave

All you have to do is take a look at GSP and you know UFC has the best MMA fighter pound for pound period.. No questions asked. UFC had Matt Hughes back in the day as the best and most popular, now the torch has been passed. I just don't envision any Strikeforce fighter would be able to last a round with GSP no matter what his weight is. Brock Lesner, former WCW/WWF wrestler, had to earn his respect and I believe he has. Not even Fedor thought it would be a good idea to go to UFC since he knows he'd have to face him right away. That is why I believe he went to Strikeforce. In order for Fedor to have some easy matches and create this hype so he can get a big payday when he does decide to fight Lesner.. At that point, he would make a boatload of money even if he loses.. So my guess is we see Fedor fight some punks, and gets easy wins. Lesner fights some real competitors and wins some close matches.. Even if Lesner loses his title which is possible, too much bad blood between Fedor and Lesner not to have a fight down the road..
 
Fedor vs Lesner will happen someday. It is just a matter of money.. Both groups know they can make a fortune with that fight. It might not be this year, but you can be sure it will be 2011 at the latest. I believe Lesner has the advantage, however he can be submitted. It is time for Fedor to kick Shields ass all over the place. That guy can't throw a punch to save his life..

I know Fedor will be fighting in the UFC eventually. Strikeforce has nothing for him except a security blanket.

Shields is a boring fighter. No G & P just wrestling. Dan could have won the fight from the bottom by just throwing punches and elbows. lol
 
Why would they cut him? He actually provided a reason for people to be talking about Strikeforce. They are getting a helluva lot more attention thanks to Miller than the entire card.

Because that incident + the low ratings + the bad press could lead the CBS corporate suits into cutting Strikeforce from their prime time spot (which is what CBS/Showtime did with EliteXC after the Kimbo fiasco).
 
Because that incident + the low ratings + the bad press could lead the CBS corporate suits into cutting Strikeforce from their prime time spot (which is what CBS/Showtime did with EliteXC after the Kimbo fiasco).

Doubtful. They know there's a market for it. Otherwise they wouldn't have given Strikeforce a chance after Kimbo got KO'd during Elite's broadcast.
 
Yeah I think CBS pulled out from the Elite contract was there was bad news about inside details about payments and making people take the fall so they could build up Kimbo more. Its just like when Seth dropped him, he stated that they told him to just stand and trade with him for a bit...and Seth ended up dropping him with a jab... I was at that event and beleive me the whole audience went crazy. They were passing out signs before the match that were basically all for Kimbo. I remember I threw the sign on the ground, lol. Now granted, Kimbo seems like a really nice guy,real down to Earth, but I wasnt a fan. Plus I knew a few people in Seth's camp so I was pulling for Seth and blamo with 1 jab Elite disappears.

Strikeforce isnt going anywhere, they'll be back for sure.
 
Because that incident + the low ratings + the bad press could lead the CBS corporate suits into cutting Strikeforce from their prime time spot (which is what CBS/Showtime did with EliteXC after the Kimbo fiasco).


I wonder if telemundos MMA/cagefight brought in higer ratings? ;).

I am glad I missed strike force, the whole thing was a 'fail' from what I heard.

Strikeforce isnt going anywhere, they'll be back for sure.

It's CBS and Saturday night.
 
I wonder if telemundos MMA/cagefight brought in higer ratings? ;).

I am glad I missed strike force, the whole thing was a 'fail' from what I heard.



It's CBS and Saturday night.

Thats Bellator and there doing really well. They cater to a different audience as well though. In the sense of there live events happen on weeknights. There trying to cater to the local crowd of the events and trying to gain name recognition. As I said Dana even said he likes Bellator and kind of scouts them for new prospects since Bellator takes alot of fresh new fighters. If you get the chance to watch Bellator its a great tournament. Thats the other thing they do seasons/tournaments. At the end of the Season there is a Champion and that champion will come back. Its a pretty good set up actually. They even said in there plan is not to try and compete with UFC or Strikeforce but to more or less co-exist and do there own thing. Props to them because every event Ive seen was pretty good. You just have to get out of that UFC mindset and be willing to watch alot of start up fighters.
 
Thats Bellator and there doing really well. They cater to a different audience as well though. In the sense of there live events happen on weeknights. There trying to cater to the local crowd of the events and trying to gain name recognition. As I said Dana even said he likes Bellator and kind of scouts them for new prospects since Bellator takes alot of fresh new fighters. If you get the chance to watch Bellator its a great tournament. Thats the other thing they do seasons/tournaments. At the end of the Season there is a Champion and that champion will come back. Its a pretty good set up actually. They even said in there plan is not to try and compete with UFC or Strikeforce but to more or less co-exist and do there own thing. Props to them because every event Ive seen was pretty good. You just have to get out of that UFC mindset and be willing to watch alot of start up fighters.

I can't get out of the UFC mindset. They have the best of the best... The rest of these fighting league's are paying people to take the falls in order to build up excitement and popularity. I prefer that to be kept in the Wrestling Entertainment world and not martial arts. I was skeptical of Brock Lesner being able to fight out of the wrestling wring but her has proven to be very formidable and will be very tough to beat. But Strikeforce is just a laughing stock...
 
I watch everything. :lol

I even watch that one small promotion where Hulk Hogan's nephew fights at. Don't even know the name either. If it's on I'll check it out, same with watching fights on the internet.
 
Watch it all.

That way when a guys like Machida, Jones, Carwin, A. Silva, etc. etc. come in and wipe the floor with one of the best of the best you will not lose money.

I might have to check out the Bellator event in Dallas next month.
 
I can't get out of the UFC mindset. They have the best of the best... The rest of these fighting league's are paying people to take the falls in order to build up excitement and popularity. I prefer that to be kept in the Wrestling Entertainment world and not martial arts. I was skeptical of Brock Lesner being able to fight out of the wrestling wring but her has proven to be very formidable and will be very tough to beat. But Strikeforce is just a laughing stock...

I sorta feel the same way though I do try to watch smaller shows from time to time on tv. UFC doesnt have female MMA fighters. lol

Even so I cant back Strikeforce. I have seen other organizations, probably much smaller than them, and they seem MUCH more professional. Plus Coker seems sleazy to me.
 
latest batch of ultimate fighters :lol

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The numbers for UFC 110 on Spike last night should be way lower than the live Strikeforce card...but they won't be.

They actually weren't. :lol

Spike TV's UFC 110 replay draws 1.4 million viewers, tops Strikeforce in key demo

Spike TV's replay of a UFC 110 pay-per-view event that aired this past Saturday scored a 1.0 household rating and averaged 1.4 million viewers, Spike TV officials today announced.

Although it fell short of topping a live CBS broadcast of "Strikeforce: Nashville," which averaged twice the audience with 2.9 million viewers, Spike TV's counter-programming won in a key demo.

Among men ages 18-34 – one of TV's most lucrative demographics – the April 17 replay of UFC 110 earned a 1.4 rating, which beat Strikeforce and CBS by seven percent.

I already stated that it's pointless to compare network ratings to cable since one is free (CBS) and the other isn't (Spike TV). But just for the sake of argument:

Yes, the UFC didn't beat Strikeforce in the ratings. BUT.. the UFC DID beat Strikeforce in the key 18-34 yr old male demographic. Which is the target audience for MMA and the target audience CBS is trying to get.

UFC 110, which was a replay of a 2 month old event had more 18-34 yr old male viewers watching than Strikforce on CBS which was a live event featuring 3 title fights. That's pathetic no matter how you try to spin it.

And one of those title fights included Dan Henderson, the guy Strikeforce just paid a crap load of money to because SF thought he was a huge draw. Well obviously.. he's not.

Not to mention compared to other network programming CBS/Strikeforce came in dead last ratings wise. Even against repeats. :lol

America's Most Wanted, Law & Order (repeat), Law & Order SVU (repeat), Castle (repeat), hell.. even a repeat Shark Tale had higher numbers than Strikeforce: Nashville.

Also.. the lead-in for the CBS/Strikeforce card (a repeat of NCIS: Los Angeles) had more viewers (3.58 Million). Which means people bounced when Strikeforce came on. And if you look at the numbers, the biggest drop off was during the Aoki-Melendez fight. Wonder why!?

Aoki vs. Alvarez butt scoot
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I try to watch everything not enough hours in the day for me to do all this...

and I don't have the drive to look at the UFC sites, I just like to watch!

Too lazy to read about other people training when I get done training but I agree I watch it all!
 
They actually weren't. :lol

Spike TV's UFC 110 replay draws 1.4 million viewers, tops Strikeforce in key demo



I already stated that it's pointless to compare network ratings to cable since one is free (CBS) and the other isn't (Spike TV). But just for the sake of argument:

Yes, the UFC didn't beat Strikeforce in the ratings. BUT.. the UFC DID beat Strikeforce in the key 18-34 yr old male demographic. Which is the target audience for MMA and the target audience CBS is trying to get.

UFC 110, which was a replay of a 2 month old event had more 18-34 yr old male viewers watching than Strikforce on CBS which was a live event featuring 3 title fights. That's pathetic no matter how you try to spin it.

And one of those title fights included Dan Henderson, the guy Strikeforce just paid a crap load of money to because SF thought he was a huge draw. Well obviously.. he's not.

Not to mention compared to other network programming CBS/Strikeforce came in dead last ratings wise. Even against repeats. :lol

America's Most Wanted, Law & Order (repeat), Law & Order SVU (repeat), Castle (repeat), hell.. even a repeat Shark Tale had higher numbers than Strikeforce: Nashville.

Also.. the lead-in for the CBS/Strikeforce card (a repeat of NCIS: Los Angeles) had more viewers (3.58 Million). Which means people bounced when Strikeforce came on. And if you look at the numbers, the biggest drop off was during the Aoki-Melendez fight. Wonder why!?

Aoki vs. Alvarez butt scoot
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LOL.. THE aoki fight was laughable.. If Japan MMA fighters think this guy is their best pound for pound fighter and that somehow this match was going to legitimize the sport over their, they must be really proud. lol.. The funny thing is Aoki makes more money than most of the Strikeforce fighters do combined in Japan.. It just goes to show you how marketing can have the biggest effect in these sports and not actual talent. Look at the WWF back in the days when 90% of the people who watched believed it was real. Hogan vs Warrior was a great match back then when we were kids. :) Now I love MMA and UFC has the best of the best however most matches aren't that exciting or heart pounding. On occasion some of them are and usually its the same fighters that make the excellent matches occur. Aggressiveness seems to be the best way to judge that. Matt Hughes and George St. Pierre fights for example have that aggressiveness every round. These strikeforce title fights were a joke. If they spent that much money on paying Henderson to take the loss, at the very least have the fighters practice fighting each other to make it look real. Fighters in the World Wrestling Entertainment/Federation spent an entire day going over how the fight would turn out. lol.. OK so I'm being facetious here.. I want these MMA fights to be legit and real all the time. The brunt of the money should come when you win, not when you get signed up for the fight, and most definitely not in order to prop up a fighter by taking a loss.. If Henderson's first knockdown was a fluke that wasn't supposed to happen and he said "Oh SH%T" I need to stop throwing even baby punches, and we got what we saw in the rest of the fight.. Then shame on them.. Henderson needs to fight like his life is in danger and if he doesn't kill his opponent in one minute, some terrible thing will happen to his family.

Aoki by the way looks like a dog trying to wipe his A$$ on the ground.
 
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