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It has however had the last 3 pages removed so please get back on topic and play nice without insulting each other.
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Oh, and Daiky is awesome :lecture :lol
 
Koschek considered to be a superior boxer over GSP? ROFL, are you kidding me?

Kos having one punch KO power, yes. but superior technical boxing skills....hell no.

Why would I be kidding? This is something both Koschek and GSP acknowledged prior to their match, and GSP clearly stated the reason he spent so much time working on his stand-up game was because he felt Koschek had the advantage. There is no doubt in my mind GSP has now surpassed Koschek where boxing is concerned, but prior to their fight....not a chance.
 
Why would I be kidding? This is something both Koschek and GSP acknowledged prior to their match, and GSP clearly stated the reason he spent so much time working on his stand-up game was because he felt Koschek had the advantage. There is no doubt in my mind GSP has now surpassed Koschek where boxing is concerned, but prior to their fight....not a chance.


You should take what fighters say prior to their fight with a grain of salt. For one, they are both obligated to sell the fight, and secondly neither one will admit to fighting a less than worthy opponent.

The FACTS are that Koscheck has amateur striking at best, but one plus is that he does have decent power...but that is only because he swings for the fences. GSP is way more technically sound in all aspects even when they fought the first time.
 
This thread has not been closed....yet.
It has however had the last 3 pages removed so please get back on topic and play nice without insulting each other.
Thanks
x :peace


Oh, and Daiky is awesome :lecture :lol

Thanks sweetie. Your awesome too.... especially in spandex.

Why would I be kidding? This is something both Koschek and GSP acknowledged prior to their match, and GSP clearly stated the reason he spent so much time working on his stand-up game was because he felt Koschek had the advantage. There is no doubt in my mind GSP has now surpassed Koschek where boxing is concerned, but prior to their fight....not a chance.

I think its pretty obvious that GSP is the more technical boxer. Baseball pitch punches isnt very technical.
 
Kirik is awesome, ran into him at some smaller shows. I go to alot of the amateur shows, grappling events. That site post all the shows. I also like the fact that Fighters post there, thats pretty cool. Carwin post alot there.

But posting here is tough. Topics run quick, then TUF fanboys like DevilDog have to be wise a$$, so its hard to get any good flow, and people like DevilDog get offended and Mad too quick. So let it be.

yeah i agree, I like posting here when I can and because my other hobby of toy collecting is also here. I had about 2000 + posts at the UG and then just kinda stopped randomly. I still go there for as you said scheduling of smaller events and to see if any grappling events are
mentioned. I actually designed the original NAGA logo from that site for Kipp Kollar. Unfortunately I think its a horrible logo now that I look at it but thats what Kipp asked for and well its evolved into something even uglier with those red flamy things now...that was way back in 2004.

Yeah ive met a lot of good fighters and even met Joe Rogan back then at a show and we talked and all pretty cool guy. Ok I dont want to side track anymore since there seem to be issues arising.
 
You should take what fighters say prior to their fight with a grain of salt. For one, they are both obligated to sell the fight, and secondly neither one will admit to fighting a less than worthy opponent.

The FACTS are that Koscheck has amateur striking at best, but one plus is that he does have decent power...but that is only because he swings for the fences. GSP is way more technically sound in all aspects even when they fought the first time.

I understand there is always going to be some hype leading into a big fight, but seriously....how many fighters go into a fight openly acknowedging their opponent is better at certain fighting aspects? Sure it happens, but not all that often. Call me gullible, but GSP has always been open and honest when discussing fights or fighters so regardless of the hype if he says he felt Koschek was a better striker, then I'm going to take him at his word. Just like I believe him when he says Shields has superior jiu jitsu skills. :dunno
 
I understand there is always going to be some hype leading into a big fight, but seriously....how many fighters go into a fight openly acknowedging their opponent is better at certain fighting aspects? Sure it happens, but not all that often. Call me gullible, but GSP has always been open and honest when discussing fights or fighters so regardless of the hype if he says he felt Koschek was a better striker, then I'm going to take him at his word. Just like I believe him when he says Shields has superior jiu jitsu skills. :dunno


In the latest prime time shows or interviews, GSP says that Jake Shields is his "toughest" opponent ever. You really believe that? :lol

Well if Koscheck has superior striking, then GSP must really really suck!!
 
In the latest prime time shows or interviews, GSP says that Jake Shields is his "toughest" opponent ever. You really believe that? :lol

Whose GSP fought that is any more dangerous than Shields? Fitch who he destroyed for 5 straight rounds? BJ [no mas] Penn, who challenged GSP's heart only to quit between rounds :lol. Shields may or may not be the most dangerous guy GSP's ever faced, but I do know one thing....all he ever did over a 6 year period was win every fight he had :lecture

Well if Koscheck has superior striking, then GSP must really really suck!!

You really should learn how to read. Or was my stating Koschek as being a better striker before the GSP fight [based on GSP's own words], but acknowledging GSP as clearly a better striker now not clear enough for you? :slap

But does any of this before/after arguement really matter? My point in bring up Koschek in the first place was that GSP looked fantastic in taking apart Koschek with his striking game whereas he looked terrible when striking with Shields, a clearly inferior striker to Koschek. And I don't think you have to be a brain surgeon to figure out GSP's performance against Shields had nothing to do with his, or his opponent's striking ability, and everything to do with the fact he couldn't see out of his left eye.....something which certain individuals around here seem incapable of figuring out.
 
GSP is an over cautious, decision whore. Too many Canadians love him because he is simply a Canadian champion. I wonder if he voted Bloc (Quebec's separatist political party) :lol
 
Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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I blame Shields. I know GSP is hard to take down, but Shields could of tried alot harder. I figured GSP's game plan was to stay on his feet and out box Sheilds. I wonder if Shields had the same game plan. I wanted to see those two grapple, thought Shields should of put alot more effort in his takedown attempts, this was like a sparring session.

In other news looks like Hendo v Fedor is a go for 7/30 in Chicago.

Also found this:
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GSP is an over cautious, decision whore. Too many Canadians love him because he is simply a Canadian champion. I wonder if he voted Bloc (Quebec's separatist political party) :lol

No, Canadians love him because he is the UFC welterweight champion and because he conducts himself with class and dignity both inside and outside the ring. Anymore stupid comments youl'd like to make?...:duh
 
Whose GSP fought that is any more dangerous than Shields? Fitch who he destroyed for 5 straight rounds? BJ [no mas] Penn, who challenged GSP's heart only to quit between rounds :lol. Shields may or may not be the most dangerous guy GSP's ever faced, but I do know one thing....all he ever did over a 6 year period was win every fight he had :lecture



You really should learn how to read. Or was my stating Koschek as being a better striker before the GSP fight [based on GSP's own words], but acknowledging GSP as clearly a better striker now not clear enough for you? :slap

But does any of this before/after arguement really matter? My point in bring up Koschek in the first place was that GSP looked fantastic in taking apart Koschek with his striking game whereas he looked terrible when striking with Shields, a clearly inferior striker to Koschek. And I don't think you have to be a brain surgeon to figure out GSP's performance against Shields had nothing to do with his, or his opponent's striking ability, and everything to do with the fact he couldn't see out of his left eye.....something which certain individuals around here seem incapable of figuring out.


YOu really get off on painting GSP as the victim or some kind of underdog dont you? :lol

As you said, GSP couldnt see out of his left eye and he still made Shields look like the UFC found a random guy off the street and threw him in the octagon. But yet you seem to agree with GSP that Shields is/was his most dangerous opponent out of everyone he's ever fought....LOL, get those GSP colored glasses off. or maybe you've got his jockstrap on your face instead?
 
YOu really get off on painting GSP as the victim or some kind of underdog dont you? :lol

As you said, GSP couldnt see out of his left eye and he still made Shields look like the UFC found a random guy off the street and threw him in the octagon. But yet you seem to agree with GSP that Shields is/was his most dangerous opponent out of everyone he's ever fought....LOL, get those GSP colored glasses off. or maybe you've got his jockstrap on your face instead?

Whose GSP fought that is any more dangerous than Shields? Fitch who he destroyed for 5 straight rounds? BJ [no mas] Penn, who challenged GSP's heart only to quit between rounds :lol. Shields may or may not be the most dangerous guy GSP's ever faced, but I do know one thing....all he ever did over a 6year period was win every fight he had :lecture

Really? I said Shields was the the most dangerous guy GSP's ever faced. :confused: Would you care to provide the quote where I said that.....or would you prefer to continue blowing smoke out your a$$ and make things up as you go along? And since you were the one to bring up the issue of GSP's most dangerous opponent....then why don't you answer the question I asked in the 1st place. Again, who has GSP fought that is more dangerous? Feel free to name any other guys he's faced who've won 15 straight fights, or who've gone 6 years between loses......Can't think of anyone? OK, then why don't you name the UFC challenger whose even won a single round fighting GSP since his loss to Serra?

I never said Shields was a great fighter, but based on the results of GSP's title matches over the past 4 years I cant say that about any one of his opponents either.....can you?
 
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Fedor's a Joke.

Must be nice to get embarrassed and lose two fights in a row BOTH by stoppage and then rebound from that with a HW fight against a natural LHW fighter.

Pathetic.
 
No, Canadians love him because he is the UFC welterweight champion and because he conducts himself with class and dignity both inside and outside the ring. Anymore stupid comments youl'd like to make?...:duh

:lol What butt crack crapped you out? Anything anyone says that you don't agree with sends you over the edge. It's pretty funny. Chill the ____ out.

BTW, I am Canadian, and outside of some MMA fanatics, Canadians love him for exactly the reasons I've stated.
 
Got my #2 pencil ready.. it's test time!

who has GSP fought that is more dangerous?

Hughes (1st and 2nd fight), Fitch, Kos, Penn, Alves, Serra (Rematch) > Shields

When it comes to more "dangerous" opponents for GSP.

Feel free to name any other guys he's faced who've won 15 straight fights, or who've gone 6 years between loses.

Jon Fitch. Before the loss to GSP on 08/09/2008 Fitch's last loss was 12/13/2002. 4 months shy of 6 years but Fitch had more wins; 16 fight win streak to Shields' 15 fight win streak.

name the UFC challenger whose even won a single round fighting GSP since his loss to Serra?

Josh Koscheck in their first fight. 2 out of the 3 judges gave a round to Kos which is why the scores were 30-27 and then 29-28 x2.

I never said Shields was a great fighter, but based on the results of GSP's title matches over the past 4 years I cant say that about any one of his opponents either.....can you?

I can. Because GSP lost a title match to Matt Serra on 04/07/2007. Which happened within that 4 years. :nana:

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