Update and Master List for custom work from DarkArtist

[Ironman1188]

Thank you for the update Jen. I guess its back to sit and wait to hear.

 

[carbo-fation]

Yeah, it is. I just have no trust that I will get my stuff back.



Well, in all fairness my name isn't either. He's had a second SS 1:6th Indy and Toy Biz Gimli for at least 2-3 years now.

Should folks be making Josh out to be the worst person ever? No, I think thats going a bit far. Do I think people might be trying to sugar coat it a bit still and act like its nothing at all? yeah, I do. Do I think Josh has made some thing up as far as issues and is a bit of a theif? Yeah, I do and that sucks when I considered Josh a friend. Thats the thing that stings the most of it all for me.

I don't think anyone is trying to sugar coat anything anymore. I think everyone is beyond upset at this point but just choose to go about expressing themselves in a different way.

 

[Skiman]

Hi Matt!

Nothing is hotter than women with tats that play games and collect statues/figures and don't sweep items underneath rugs in the summer heat with the fan blowing!!!!!11111

 

[tbay]

Explain the difference to an uneducated person like myself.

I said a much different scale, but other than that, i dont see much of a difference. I'm sure Bernie was very nice to his customers while he was taking their money too.

I don't think he falls into any legal loophole that protects businesses that commit fraud and theft since he didn't have a business license/permit to my knowledge.

It should be an issue for the authorities/police to decide (in my opinion he committed a criminal offense), but even if he doesn't face any legal action most of us have made a decision on what kind of person he is.

In the end character is revealed under harsh circumstances and on the surface he seemed like a really nice guy from what everyone is saying (which is commendable because even under the best circumstances people act like complete jerks) but when the going got rough he basically manipulated people that trusted him by making excuses, blaming his customers, outright lying (including pretending to take accountability), and continuing to steal with his sales and frivolous purchases.

You don't get many chances to do the right thing under harsh circumstance to prove what type of a person you really are, Josh had his and he blew it miserably.

Ultimately I think that's it's own punishment. Reading what all these people think about him might even be more of a punishment than having to do community service or whatever consequence the legal system would give him for his crimes.

 

[toyadventurer]

As I said, there is nothing criminal in what he did.

You might want to double check that with the FBI. What DA has done is called Non-Delivery of Merchandise and is considered internet fraud and he most certainly could be prosucuted for it.

 

[carbo-fation]

Oh trust me he will have even an answer to that I am sure

The know it all of know it alls

Your post doesn't add anything to this thread. Let's not get into another flame fest. This situation is bad enough as is. No need to fight amongst board members. Besides, you don't have any business with Josh so you shouldn't really be posting in this thread, however infuriating it may be.

 

[Jen]

Stop with the personal attacks!! Those of you who have no business here - please stop adding fuel to the fire.

 

[meth head]

Your post doesn't add anything to this thread. Let's not get into another flame fest. This situation is bad enough as is. No need to fight amongst board members. Besides, you don't have any business with Josh so you shouldn't really be posting in this thread, however infuriating it may be.

I find it astonishing he can sit there and say there was nothing criminal in what Josh did! Your right he didn't screw me over personally but people I know have been!

Don't flame me flame ''know it all'' for even suggesting that this low life has not done anything criminal

 

[pixletwin]

I was just responding to someone who had quoted me. Feel free to delete this, but if you do toyadventurer's input is just as irrelevant.

Again, you (toyadventurer) show me one comparable case where the FBI cared enough to spend their resources on investigation and successful prosecution and I'll eat my hat.

I am not a "know it all". I am just a "Know more than you".

 

[The Josh]

I don't think anyone is trying to sugar coat anything anymore. I think everyone is beyond upset at this point but just choose to go about expressing themselves in a different way.

Yes and No. I see some still saying he had this issue in his life and that issue. Honestly, I'm at the point I'm not sure any of that was true but a way to just put off doing what he should be doing. Thats what I was getting at. I agree with you some of us have choose to go about it differently. I know I have.

 

[LOTRFan]

I just wish P!tu would have gotten my stuff for me at the Halloween party Josh had.

 

[toyadventurer]

Again, you (toyadventurer) show me one comparable case where the FBI cared enough to spend their resources on investigation and successful prosecution and I'll eat my hat.

The point is...you said it was not criminal and I told you it can be considered criminal and where you could verify it. Now you want to see actual cases of successful prosecutions. I have a feeling even that wouldn't satisfy you. Next you would want to see successful prosecutions of people who painted little doll heads.

I do have business in this thread

 

[pixletwin]

Interesting how we can paint our "feelings" as facts upon which we can respond. As it is what you said is meaningless. Especially since what you said is a flat out assumption (and a wrong one at that).

Here is a fact. The farthest any of these claims would go is small claims. I never said that what he did wasn't bad. I said it would not be criminally prosecutable. In that context what he id is not criminal. Do you get it? Or does that not fit in with your lynch mentality? As it is you are either 1) have terrible reading comprehension or 2) are willfully misrepresenting what I wrote. Which is it?

Again show me some facts to back up what you say or stop posting.

I also have business in this thread. Jen can verify that. Josh has stuff of mine as well. Like others. I have likely been waiting for my stuff longer than most of you.

 

[wofford29]

Its definitely criminal. The amount he took would actually be a felony. I had a guy swindle me out of $500 on ebay and he got slapped with the crime and I got my money back once the whole process was over. This took place in GA but I can't imagine it being much different in FL.

 

[pixletwin]

Its definitely criminal. The amount he took would actually be a felony. I had a guy swindle me out of $500 on ebay and he got slapped with the crime and I got my money back.

He was criminally prosecuted? By the FBI? Or was a judgment entered in your favor in small claims?

 

[wofford29]

The cops went to his house with a warrant, picked him up and he went to court where he was charged with more than one felony account because he apparently had done something similar to several people (selling goods he didn't have). I wasn't there but the cops told me about it after the case had been closed and they followed up with me. They had to subpoena paypal for me to get my money back and for them to cooperate though, and it took almost a year, but for me it was worth it.

 

[pixletwin]

Interesting. Has anyone actually put a total dollar amount on what Josh took?

Thing is as an ebay member you basically sign a contract to deliver a specific good in a reasonable amount of time. If the seller fails to do that he would be in violation of that contract and if criminal intent was found prosecutable then things can be put in motion legally.

With Josh it was a private transaction between board members and him. This is how a prosecutor would look at it:

Basically you have a guy who took on a bunch of private projects for members of an internet board. He bit off more than he could chew. Yes. He constantly sought pity with excuses for the time he was taking to complete these projects. Yes.

Is their evidence that when he took on the jobs that he fully intended to complete the jobs? I would say their is ample evidence of this. You have a list of pieces that were in various stages of completion.

Does it constitute fraud that, when the delivery times were looking to stretch far longer than anyone thought, people began demanding their money back or their pieces back? I don't believe so. There was never a binding contract entered into by either Josh or his customers which bound him to complete a project by a certain time.

As it stands, you have a group of people who were tired of endlessly waiting for their pieces and a guy who was too stupid to ship things out, not spend the money, and keep people in the loop.

And sorry if I seem like a know-it-all to some of you. This is a discussion board and this is an issue which interests me.

 

[wofford29]

Yeah, it would be interesting to find out what would happen. I just brought it up because of its similarities to an experience I had. I was purely speaking for those that haven't and might not (if it's not with Carl) ever recieve anything. There is definitely nothing criminal if someone's stuff is with Carl and they get it back. I just thought they'd like some hope that their stuff might not be lost if they come together in numbers. That's the only reason it worked for me is because they found out I wasn't the only one.

 

[pixletwin]

Yeah, it would be interesting to find out what would happen. I just brought it up because of its similarities to an experience I had. I was purely speaking for those that haven't and might not (if it's not with Carl) ever recieve anything. There is definitely nothing criminal if someone's stuff is with Carl and they get it back. I just thought they'd like some hope that their stuff might not be lost if they come together in numbers. That's the only reason it worked for me is because they found out I wasn't the only one.

Good point. Even if they get their stuff back from Carl there is still the matter that they paid for services that were either partially rendered or not rendered at all. That is still a big kick in the pants.

Again, those of you who are getting your hackles up because I have an opinion, you can still find recourse whatever I say. I am just lending my opinion. Do what you feel you need to do. I am just glad I am not going to through Carl to get my stuff back. This just has cluster____ potential beyond what it already had.

 

[csi]

I was thinking Carl did not live in Fla, but in an adjoining state... part of the reason it took a bit for him to get the items in the first place.

EDIT checked an earlier post, he's in Atlanta.

I live near Atlanta so if Carl needs some help shipping I wouldn't mind lending a hand. I met up with Wofford29 one time to buy his Hot Toys Joker (at a great price I might add )