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Did I mention I have the opportunity to go to Saudi Arabia and earn $230,000 per year, if I am willing to sign a two year contract?

Tax free! :lol

Screw that. Is your life only worth $230k? I wouldn't move anywhere near the hell hole that is the middle east.
 
Did I mention I have the opportunity to go to Saudi Arabia and earn $230,000 per year, if I am willing to sign a two year contract?

Tax free! :lol

Been their, didn't do that. It is no longer all tax free. The first 91,400 is and that is only if you are outside of the US for 330 full days out of the year (pro-rated if the 330 days is spread between two calendar years). And the rest is taxed at the higher tax bracket. At the time I had the opportunity, too many Americans were dying in those situations.

Reading through this thread has been interesting. It seems that on the one hand, people want to believe that college is the golden ticket. And on the other hand, some say it is a waste of time.

Personally...I find it to be good idea, but it needs to be taken in it's correct context. Continuing education is never a bad thing. But taking the attitude that having continued your education makes you a better candidate for a given situation over that person next to you that has no college is a mistake. That other person may have other qualities over the college grad.

Yes, there are jobs that require college. And there are also jobs that do not. To think that you HAVE to have college to succeed is wrong thinking. But to think that college can't be used to help you succeed is also wrong.

College is a great stone for putting in a foundation to build success on. But there are a hundred other stones that need to be used as well. And missing any one of those stones will not necessarily spell disaster for your endeavor...even if it is the college stone that is missing. Disaster is more likely if you are missing many of the stones and/or you can not manage those you do have.

Anything you can learn in college...you can learn outside of college. Some people that I know, whether they have been to college or not, do not seem to understand that. A great deal of what is taught in college was learned outside of college and was put in colleges to teach it to people at a greatly accelerated pace. But this comes with drawbacks as well. There are instances where professors put too much of their own incorrect inturpretation into the material they deliver. And that only serves to make things worse.

Also, to me, this "accelerated" learning really is not faster. Colleges are businesses like any other and they push unnecessary courses on students in order to make more money. This has the effect of taking a great deal longer to learn information that is actually needed to succeed in the individual's endeavor. Most positions that take a 4 year degree can probably be learned on the job in one or two years of actual implementation. Any profession can be taught on the job. It ends up being a matter of whether it is reasonable to take the time for it. Many fields benefit from those going in to it having gone to advanced schooling first. But the truth is, MOST lines of work still do not REQUIRE college. And many that do could actually go without the requirement if the leaders were willing to train. But that is considered to be bad business.

I have heard both business owners and employees alike voicing the opinion that going to college is a form of paying dues to show how much a person wants a job more than another person. And to me, this is a very narrow mindset. It has merit, but very, very little and should not be very high on a list of qualifications.

Another of the stones I was referring to before is the individuals opinion of what success is. For some, success is not attained until they have the power of Ted Kennedy or the wealth of Donald Trump. For others, that feeling of accomplishment is more about feeling that they have made a contribution in an area that is closer to their heart. But for everyone...NOBODY has the right to tell another person they are or are not successful because the other person does not meet their opinion of success.

My own opinion is that my success is in keeping my family housed, healthy, and happy while I am setting an example for my kids that I can be proud of. I could not be proud of what I am teaching my kids if I am working the underhanded practices that are common to attain what Trump or the Kennedys have. But I make a great living (over 6 figures) doing something that I can show to my children helps our nation by improving the infrastructure and in turn, making day-to-day living for the people who live here more manageable.
 
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I'm a few years into college now and I'm still not sure if this is really what I want. It feels like I'm just going through the motions and the only reason I'm there is because, well, what else would I be doing? I really feel like I'm at a loss. I've been told since high school that I have potential, but I just don't see it. I don't know if it's cynicism, laziness (I guess you could say I had a privileged or spoiled childhood), or a facade that I'm putting up. Maybe I'm just a dope? I don't know it just feels overwhelming. I have a tendency to just "wing it", go with the flow. While I haven't suffered because of it, I fear one day I will. Strangely, I also seem to have this superiority complex but I've got nothing to really back it up. Yeah, I can read, I can write, I'm a thinker, especially when it comes to psychology and philosophy but I don't have the degrees to, again, back it up. And come on, how many people can't do those things. There's a lot of people in this world, a LOT of people and it feels like it's just closing in.

I believe it was Evilface that said it, and I think it's entirely true. It's not what you know, it's who you know and sadly, I don't think I'll ever conform to this idea. I'm literally a social deviant and completely introvert, basically my own man. For some reason I have trouble trusting others, especially those who potentially have a hand in my future and could just as easily take it away. It's a lonely way to live, but that's just how I am. I do ____ myself or at the very least, with my families helping hand. My connections are few. Ironically, I'm the exact opposite of my father who is very much a self made man who utilizes as many connections as he can. In my mind, this is either a normal phase I'm going through or something went horribly wrong in the events that have formed my life, not sure.

Anyway, if you're serious pixel, I really wouldn't take any advice from anyone here, we're all different, living unique lives. We don't know what it's like to be pixel, only ourselves. Only you know what's good for you and it might take you months, maybe even years to find it. It might be a secondary education, it may not. You just have to go out there and find your calling.
 
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Anyway, if you're serious pixel, I really wouldn't take any advice from anyone here, we're all different, living unique lives. We don't know what it's like to be pixel, only ourselves. Only you know what's good for you and it might take you months, maybe even years to find it. It might be a secondary education, it may not. You just have to go out there and find your calling.

Very well thought out and written. Superb advice. :D
 
Did I mention I have the opportunity to go to Saudi Arabia and earn $230,000 per year, if I am willing to sign a two year contract?

Tax free! :lol

I almost took up an offer like this from a personal security firm in Alaska. In the end (with a daughter on the way at the time), I decided it wasn't worth risking my neck (and head) over.
 
if you're interested in a computer/technical profession then i'd recommend learning UNIX/Linux! best educational move i ever did in school. you'd be surprised how many fields open up. good luck!
 
DiFabio, great post! i totally felt the same way during my early college years. my academic life after high school was meager. i had no career path. fortunately, i had the "luxury" of living at home during this time but i knew i had to eventually break into something to start my own life. luckily my parents backed me up into whatever career field i wanted. i have to really thank them for supporting me. all those crazy expensive tuition fees, books, etc! it was really all up to me. it was also hard being under the "pressure" of relatives whose kids graduated from UC Davis, UC Berkeley, Mills College, and Stanford! i laugh at it now but back then it was kinda shameful to not amount to something in the eyes of my parents. they never once told me and my sister this but we both knew. in the end through trial and luck i was able to get my lucky break.

i never did finish my college education but instead got a tech job back in the booming dot com days.

here's hopefully a bit of inspiration for you.

[ame="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF8uR6Z6KLc"]Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Address - YouTube[/ame]
 
what happened to going to school for what your interested in ..your passions..not for what your going to make a year.
what happens if you get bored..?
i think you should do what you want to do. not solely on what your going to make..?for the love it..so it keeps your attention..
i don't know i just wish i had people giving me advise years ago.. then i would not be stuck in a rut now..
 
what happened to going to school for what your interested in ..your passions..not for what your going to make a year.
what happens if you get bored..?
i think you should do what you want to do. not solely on what your going to make..?for the love it..so it keeps your attention..
i don't know i just wish i had people giving me advise years ago.. then i would not be stuck in a rut now..

The problem is doing what you love doesn't always pay the bills. Sometimes it does but not always.
 
The problem is doing what you love doesn't always pay the bills. Sometimes it does but not always.

I'm not doing what I love exactly, but I love what I do. There's a difference I think. Nobody is about to pay me good money for lolling about in a jacuzzi with three young Swedish nubiles - which is what I love - but I do love doing what someone is willing to pay me good money for, which is teaching digital media at the local university.

I didn't always want or expect to be a university professor. It was a process of elimination of what I discovered I didn't want to do with my life, and it took me four tertiary qualifications and two different careers to get here. I honestly believed at 20 that I'd have it all worked out career-wise by 25. Took 7 years longer than that, but better late than never :)
 
Such is life I guess. You live and you learn. If you wait around for ____ to get better, it is never gonna happen. No offense but if I was truly going to start a business and go off on my own, I think I would gather more advice then from one person.

Well, take it from me as well. Unless you're one of the rare lucky ones that starts something that really takes off and grows fast, don't look to ever retire. When my mother retires (she also worked 35 years in a factory), she'll have absolutely nothing to show that she ever had her business. Almost ever single dollar went right back into it. All it did was supplement her income, but at the expense of her IRA. It's basically just an expensive hobby that keeps her busy.
 
I wish this forum had a "Like" button. If it did then these posts would have been liked.

I'm a few years into college now and I'm still not sure if this is really what I want. It feels like I'm just going through the motions and the only reason I'm there is because, well, what else would I be doing? I really feel like I'm at a loss. I've been told since high school that I have potential, but I just don't see it. I don't know if it's cynicism, laziness (I guess you could say I had a privileged or spoiled childhood), or a facade that I'm putting up. Maybe I'm just a dope? I don't know it just feels overwhelming. I have a tendency to just "wing it", go with the flow. While I haven't suffered because of it, I fear one day I will. Strangely, I also seem to have this superiority complex but I've got nothing to really back it up. Yeah, I can read, I can write, I'm a thinker, especially when it comes to psychology and philosophy but I don't have the degrees to, again, back it up. And come on, how many people can't do those things. There's a lot of people in this world, a LOT of people and it feels like it's just closing in.

I believe it was Evilface that said it, and I think it's entirely true. It's not what you know, it's who you know and sadly, I don't think I'll ever conform to this idea. I'm literally a social deviant and completely introvert, basically my own man. For some reason I have trouble trusting others, especially those who potentially have a hand in my future and could just as easily take it away. It's a lonely way to live, but that's just how I am. I do ____ myself or at the very least, with my families helping hand. My connections are few. Ironically, I'm the exact opposite of my father who is very much a self made man who utilizes as many connections as he can. In my mind, this is either a normal phase I'm going through or something went horribly wrong in the events that have formed my life, not sure.

Anyway, if you're serious pixel, I really wouldn't take any advice from anyone here, we're all different, living unique lives. We don't know what it's like to be pixel, only ourselves. Only you know what's good for you and it might take you months, maybe even years to find it. It might be a secondary education, it may not. You just have to go out there and find your calling.

if you're interested in a computer/technical profession then i'd recommend learning UNIX/Linux! best educational move i ever did in school. you'd be surprised how many fields open up. good luck!

DiFabio, great post! i totally felt the same way during my early college years. my academic life after high school was meager. i had no career path. fortunately, i had the "luxury" of living at home during this time but i knew i had to eventually break into something to start my own life. luckily my parents backed me up into whatever career field i wanted. i have to really thank them for supporting me. all those crazy expensive tuition fees, books, etc! it was really all up to me. it was also hard being under the "pressure" of relatives whose kids graduated from UC Davis, UC Berkeley, Mills College, and Stanford! i laugh at it now but back then it was kinda shameful to not amount to something in the eyes of my parents. they never once told me and my sister this but we both knew. in the end through trial and luck i was able to get my lucky break.

i never did finish my college education but instead got a tech job back in the booming dot com days.

here's hopefully a bit of inspiration for you.

Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Address - YouTube
 
Pixeltwin, consider a career as a Funeral Director/Embalmer. Good $, always in demand and recession proof. A transferable skill from country to country, or state to state. I've been doing this for 20+ years and make 80K+ a year.

Not for everyone, but an option.
 
Pixeltwin, consider a career as a Funeral Director/Embalmer. Good $, always in demand and recession proof. A transferable skill from country to country, or state to state. I've been doing this for 20+ years and make 80K+ a year.

Not for everyone, but an option.

You know what l would really like to do actually, perform Autopsies. I don't have a week stomach and it looks lie interesting work, but of course you have to go to medical school for many years first.
 
Pixeltwin, consider a career as a Funeral Director/Embalmer. Good $, always in demand and recession proof. A transferable skill from country to country, or state to state. I've been doing this for 20+ years and make 80K+ a year.

Not for everyone, but an option.

I had a friend many years ago who was just starting out in what sounds like a similar job. She found it confronting at first but then quickly found she loved it - mostly she said that dead people don't piss her off like so many living ones. She spent her days quietly making up the dearly departed, chatting to them and enjoying the peace and quiet. As far as I know she's still doing it. I think I could enjoy doing that.
 
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