What's everyone's take on T3: Rise of the Machines?

[monkeydad16]

T3 was a crappy remake of T2.

It's name has been torn from the Terminator Bible.

 

[Slipfilth321]

TX was hot and a badass CGI was bad i ^^^^^** hate it,story was OK but still you would expect more from this kind a movie

 

[Nocturne]

It seemed like nothing more than 2 hour trailer for Arnold's governor campaign.

Which is very sad, there seemed to be very little understanding of what made the character's so succesful. Dialogue was appallingly written, there was too much reliance on CGI which in most cases looked worse than T2's (which has held up fantastically) when practical effects were used at times they were glaringly obvious
"Crouching Tiger Hidden Terminator" anyone ?

The rules established were flouted for cheap laughs (the sunglasses), there's no way that stripper was the same size as Arnold, those clothes were baggy as hell and if they were stripped clothes it first fight with the T-X Arnold wouldn't have been remotely decent. Plus when the T-X posing as Kate was shot there was no polyalloy blooms, it acted like normal clothing for the sake of "suspense"

Kristana Loken spent the whole movie doing a bad Robert Patrick impersonation.
Nick Stahl was whiny and he can do so much better, especially after his Sin City performance.
Claire Danes was annoying, but I've not seen a movie she's in where she hasn't been.

The ending was the only redeeming feature.

Have seen 2 fan-edits that have improved the film greatly just by removing elements or replacing dialogue.

 

[SilentSurfer]

I liked the combination endo and mimetic alloy. It seemed a more plausible and logical step from the easily damaged comflage of the T-800 instead of the very hard to believe T-1000. the T-1000 is the reason I have a hard time accepting T2 as a sequel to Terminator. The first one was totally blievable as presented. Didn't require suspension of disbelief to buy into it. T2 was one of the greatest action movies ever, but much harder to view as actually possible. Besides, they supposedly stopped the war in T2 (or at least altered the time line). Do you know how much that would stress out Docter Emmit Brown? John Connor should have started to disappear in that case if Kyle wasn't going to be sent back to knock up his momma anymore.

I liked that Skynet turned out to be a net virus in T3 more than a central super computer. I liked that the war started after all. I like Lokken naked.

Personally, I'm hoping to jump straight from 1984 to Terminator Salvation as the only real sequel to the story Cameron started in the Terminator. We have yet to see the John Connor Kyle gave his life to ensure would be born. I'm hoping this one is everything Kyle described the future war as being. That way T2 and T3 didn't actually happen, even though they are fun to watch.

 

[xenofreak]

it kicksass! but i know my opinion means crap because I also like alien 3 and alien resurrection, avp, avp-R , species 1, 2 ,3, 4 etc!

besides how can you not like this:

 

[ENDO-HUNTER]

Don't listen to the whiny haters always comparing it to T2. Yes I loved and will always love T2. I just don't sit there comparing the two movies and enjoy it for it's own story. T3 was AWESOME. I loved the TX and thought Kristanna did a kickass job with her interpretation of the character. To me Stahl was fine as Connor. I mean look what he has been through in his life living under the radar. You would be pretty ^^^^ed up too. NUFF SAID

 

[The Craw]

hey AR-Ballistic. good to see you're still alive.

i've said this before and i'll say it again. i hate the scene where the TX picks up arnold like a ragdoll and casually swings him around like a battering ram. terminators are strong and all but it's still a matter of weight ratios. it's like a 5oz bird trying to carry a 1 pound coconut. not gonna happen. at least in T2 the T-1000 had to get his momentum going by doing a 360 spin to throw arnold. and cameron uses the same style moves in TSCC.

 

[JohnFromCincinnati]

Claire Danes was annoying, but I've not seen a movie she's in where she hasn't been

Not a movie, but she was magnificent in 'My So-Called Life'. She just has a gift for choosing the bad role in the bad movie, except for 'Romeo + Juliet' (and perhaps 'U Turn')

Rise of the Machines is in fact...

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...one truly horrible movie

 

[The Craw]

rise of the machines is about as fun as

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sweaty, itchy balls.

ps. i dont have much hope for salvation either. the whole movie is riding on the fact that bale is connor. that's the only thing it has going for it. the studios know it. that is why they previewed the trailer during TDK cuz they knew all the little batman/bale fanboys would flock to see it in droves. Ca-Ching. *pulls down imaginary cash register arm*

 

[Entropy]

The doomsday ending is fantastic and many ignore that. The rest of the flick, aside from the improved cgi damage to Arnold, is crap.

 

[ENDO-HUNTER]

hey AR-Ballistic. good to see you're still alive.

i've said this before and i'll say it again. i hate the scene where the TX picks up arnold like a ragdoll and casually swings him around like a battering ram. terminators are strong and all but it's still a matter of weight ratios. it's like a 5oz bird trying to carry a 1 pound coconut. not gonna happen. at least in T2 the T-1000 had to get his momentum going by doing a 360 spin to throw arnold. and cameron uses the same style moves in TSCC.

Hey bro. Yeah still here. Just been busy lately. Heads up man. I have a UNIQUE 1:1 scale T2 collectible coming mid January that is FREAKING AWESOME and thats all I have to say about that till I post pics. Take care buddy, Mike

 

[The Craw]

Hey bro. Yeah still here. Just been busy lately. Heads up man. I have a UNIQUE 1:1 scale T2 collectible coming mid January that is FREAKING AWESOME and thats all I have to say about that till I post pics. Take care buddy, Mike

looking foward to the pics, man.

 

[a-dev]

besides how can you not like this:

Ohh! I forgot how very pretty she was. I like those middle pictures particularly - bending over, legs etc

She was fine as a Terminator but couldn't save the film as a whole.

 

[Nocturne]

Not a movie, but she was magnificent in 'My So-Called Life'. She just has a gift for choosing the bad role in the bad movie, except for 'Romeo + Juliet' (and perhaps 'U Turn')

I haven't seen that, might have to give it a watch, but she was irritating in Romeo and Juliet, irritating in Terminator 3 and irritating throughout most of Stardust, started to warm to her character slightly towards the end, just not enough to make up for it.

If T3 had been a standalone movie without the Terminator name it would've been passable and probably forgotten by now. But as it's a follow up to 2 incredible movies that spawned a Cinema icon, you can't help compare it because the bar was raised so high by them. Maybe it's because we had such high expectations, I know I was excited before hand and was down the Cinema for its first showing that day. I just felt let down in the end.

 

[JohnFromCincinnati]

If T3 had been a standalone movie without the Terminator name it would've been passable and probably forgotten by now. But as it's a follow up to 2 incredible movies that spawned a Cinema icon, you can't help compare it because the bar was raised so high by them. Maybe it's because we had such high expectations, I know I was excited before hand and was down the Cinema for its first showing that day. I just felt let down in the end.

Not need to explain I am aslo a victim of 'Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines'

 

[Nocturne]

Not need to explain I am aslo a victim of 'Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines'

At the end of the day we all were

nice sig by the way

 

[GDZILLA95]

The movie sucked balls, period. The music sucked, the acting was lousy and the overall Terminator atmosphere was absent! This film had NO Terminator feel from start to end, it imo is what parts 3-whatever were to the Halloween franchise.

Terminator Salvation will pick up where T2 left off, hopefully we can all forget T3 was made.

Just my 2 cents.

I totally agree with this outstanding review.:chew

 

[gdb]

The movie that doesn't hold up is T2. It holds nostalgic charm for some but if anyone looks at it with a critical eye or to anyone who wasn't old enough to see it in the 90s, it's nonsense. Only living flesh can go through the time portal except for liquid metal somehow? It's about a half-hour too long. The pacing is slow. The first 30 minutes only work if you don't know that Arnold plays the good guy. The T-1000's action sequences were designed to show off the morphing CGI which we've all seen a thousand times now. The ending doesn't work without the deleted scene that shows the "future" without Judgment Day (actually the whole story is pretty unnecessary without the alternate ending). And the f/x don't hold up.

So, yeah, T3 has the stupid logic holes about taking over machines -- giving a car the hydrolics to drive itself? But at least it has the cool ending and better pacing. T3 is better than most sci-fi films. I think history will be kinder to it than the fans of the second movie were.

 

[prefused]

The movie that doesn't hold up is T2. It holds nostalgic charm for some but if anyone looks at it with a critical eye or to anyone who wasn't old enough to see it in the 90s, it's nonsense. Only living flesh can go through the time portal except for liquid metal somehow? It's about a half-hour too long. The pacing is slow. The first 30 minutes only work if you don't know that Arnold plays the good guy. The T-1000's action sequences were designed to show off the morphing CGI which we've all seen a thousand times now. The ending doesn't work without the deleted scene that shows the "future" without Judgment Day (actually the whole story is pretty unnecessary without the alternate ending). And the f/x don't hold up.

So, yeah, T3 has the stupid logic holes about taking over machines -- giving a car the hydrolics to drive itself? But at least it has the cool ending and better pacing. T3 is better than most sci-fi films. I think history will be kinder to it than the fans of the second movie were.

quoted for truth and fair criticism.
this topic is a thinly veiled excuse to nerd-rage over the not-cameron movie... again.

 

[Morbach]

I liked it. I was disapointed by it becaust t2 raised the bar so high and when you do sequels you're supposed to raise it higher than the last one and t3 didn't. Even terminator wasn't good enough to avoid the trilogy curse.