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No excuses at all, especially when they could have kept Deadpool his comic persona and still made him the most deadly mutant.
Wolverine Origins (Spoilers/Discussion)
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No excuses at all, especially when they could have kept Deadpool his comic persona and still made him the most deadly mutant.
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The Deadpool Debacle Ended (Probably)
Posted at 10:15 AM Mar 06, 2009
I have good news and bad news, people. The good news is that Topless Robot seems to have its first, real, honest-to-goodness Hollywood inside tipster! He worked on the Wolverine movie, and emailed me to clear up the Deadpool situation and... well, that's the bad news, especially for all you folks still deep in denial. Now, these are very much spoilers, because there's some very specific info being revealed here -- consider this your SPOILER WARNING. Now here's what my guy (I have a guy! I'm so excited!) says:
• Ryan Reynolds shows up for 10 minutes in the beginning of the film. He's part of Stryker's team, and his mutant ability is mostly being a badass with swords, cutting bullets and the like. He is called Wade Wilson during this period.
• Stryker's big plan (or one of 'em) is to make Weapon XI, a mutant with a ^^^^-ton of mutant powers.
• Stryker uses Wilson's body as the mutant power receptacle, and because of the scarring (I'm not sure whether that's from a previous fight, or as a result of all the mutant powers getting packed into him), Weapon XI is played by Scott Adkins. Weapon XI appears for about ten minutes near the film's end, and has the claws seen above (a la Wolverine), Cyclops' optic blast, Wraith's teleportation ability, and Wolverine's healing factor, too. Also, his mouth is indeed sewn shut.
• Just like Weapon X is given the name "Wolverine," Weapon XI is given the name "Deadpool."
So really, the only inaccuracies with the toys is that Hasbro is calling the Wade Wilson figure Deadpool too, although I can see why they'd rather put "Deadpool" on the packaging rather than "Wade." So, guys... you can freak out and boycott Fox if you want, but please, stop pretending these are two separate characters. Now, it's possible my source is inaccurate, but he's given me ample evidence to believe him (you'll have to trust me on this). So in summary: Wade Wilson is Weapon XI is Deadpool, even if he's played by two different actors. The movie's Deadpool has two big, silly claws, at least by the end. I'm sorry. But that's the way it appears to be.
On a slightly happier note, I've got a much more pleasant spoiler for you after the jump. It's not at all Deadpool related, so I figured some of you would want to avoid it.
Apparently, there's a cameo by a certain Professor at the end of the movie. When Stryker's compound is falling apart and Wolverine is leading young Emma Frost and Cyclops out of the building, Cyclops suddenly knows the way out. When they get to the door, standing there -- oh yes, standing -- is Charles Xavier, controlling wee Cyclops' mind like he'll be doing several billion more times in the future. He's apparently not played by Patrick Stewart, by the way. Weird.
Also: Despite what the trailer would have you believe, most of the other mutants are only cameos as well. Gambit only has about 10 minutes of screentime, for instance. Just like the Marvel Universe, it's Wolverine's show.
Finally, my tipster says the film isn't quite as good as X-Men Uno or Dos, but it's a hell of a lot better that X-3. That's pretty much what I was expecting. But I'm guessing a lot of you Deadpool fans might be more aghast at the Deadpool Debacle than you were by X-3's rampant stupidity.
Take this for what you will.
Posted at 10:15 AM Mar 06, 2009
I have good news and bad news, people. The good news is that Topless Robot seems to have its first, real, honest-to-goodness Hollywood inside tipster! He worked on the Wolverine movie, and emailed me to clear up the Deadpool situation and... well, that's the bad news, especially for all you folks still deep in denial. Now, these are very much spoilers, because there's some very specific info being revealed here -- consider this your SPOILER WARNING. Now here's what my guy (I have a guy! I'm so excited!) says:
• Ryan Reynolds shows up for 10 minutes in the beginning of the film. He's part of Stryker's team, and his mutant ability is mostly being a badass with swords, cutting bullets and the like. He is called Wade Wilson during this period.
• Stryker's big plan (or one of 'em) is to make Weapon XI, a mutant with a ^^^^-ton of mutant powers.
• Stryker uses Wilson's body as the mutant power receptacle, and because of the scarring (I'm not sure whether that's from a previous fight, or as a result of all the mutant powers getting packed into him), Weapon XI is played by Scott Adkins. Weapon XI appears for about ten minutes near the film's end, and has the claws seen above (a la Wolverine), Cyclops' optic blast, Wraith's teleportation ability, and Wolverine's healing factor, too. Also, his mouth is indeed sewn shut.
• Just like Weapon X is given the name "Wolverine," Weapon XI is given the name "Deadpool."
So really, the only inaccuracies with the toys is that Hasbro is calling the Wade Wilson figure Deadpool too, although I can see why they'd rather put "Deadpool" on the packaging rather than "Wade." So, guys... you can freak out and boycott Fox if you want, but please, stop pretending these are two separate characters. Now, it's possible my source is inaccurate, but he's given me ample evidence to believe him (you'll have to trust me on this). So in summary: Wade Wilson is Weapon XI is Deadpool, even if he's played by two different actors. The movie's Deadpool has two big, silly claws, at least by the end. I'm sorry. But that's the way it appears to be.
On a slightly happier note, I've got a much more pleasant spoiler for you after the jump. It's not at all Deadpool related, so I figured some of you would want to avoid it.
Apparently, there's a cameo by a certain Professor at the end of the movie. When Stryker's compound is falling apart and Wolverine is leading young Emma Frost and Cyclops out of the building, Cyclops suddenly knows the way out. When they get to the door, standing there -- oh yes, standing -- is Charles Xavier, controlling wee Cyclops' mind like he'll be doing several billion more times in the future. He's apparently not played by Patrick Stewart, by the way. Weird.
Also: Despite what the trailer would have you believe, most of the other mutants are only cameos as well. Gambit only has about 10 minutes of screentime, for instance. Just like the Marvel Universe, it's Wolverine's show.
Finally, my tipster says the film isn't quite as good as X-Men Uno or Dos, but it's a hell of a lot better that X-3. That's pretty much what I was expecting. But I'm guessing a lot of you Deadpool fans might be more aghast at the Deadpool Debacle than you were by X-3's rampant stupidity.
Take this for what you will.
ActionFigureLegend
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Thanks for the news Mike. At least this clears things up about Deadpool. I still say its a @#$%ing horrible design/decision on the studio for @#$%ing up Deadpool like that. Unbelievable
DarkArtist81
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Yeah, that sucks to hear... 
Sure there is. It's the same excuse you gave for them rewriting the climax of Watchmen.
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No. You see, Deadpool's origin is simple. Or atleast from what I read. Dude is a merc, gets some healing factor, gets cancer, freaks out, is teh funny. You could do that in a 90 minute movie.
You cant show the Bernies, the comic, the artists, the set up, the boat stuff, the explosion, and amongst other things in 2 hours and 40 minutes. Period. Unless you wanted less character stuff.
You cant show the Bernies, the comic, the artists, the set up, the boat stuff, the explosion, and amongst other things in 2 hours and 40 minutes. Period. Unless you wanted less character stuff.
Nonsense. The island storyline is in about three pages of the book. That's less time than is currently used by by Dan and Laurie being killers, the invented prison break scene, the pointless final attack on Adrian etc. They changed the climax because they thought it would make a stronger movie. They changed Deadpool because they thought it would make a stronger movie.
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Why is there a Watchmen discussion in nearly every movie thread?
I think it's relevant to consider the changes in Wolverine re: the changes in Watchmen. Especially when people are moaning about one while defending the other.
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No. You would need to set up the Bernies. Thats a lot of time. The Pirate story....thats a lot of time. The fact that the artists are missing. Thats more time. The fact that they're creating this. (And panels dont equel minutes. That dialogue could've very well last 5 minutes if read a certin way.) And the party/explosion on the ship. Yes. It would've taken a crap load of time.
And if you want to discuss further, then get into the respected thread.
I'm not talking about the Bernies or the pirate story.
You could literally do that sequence in less than 90 seconds.
Both of which are beside the point. What's good for the goose is good for the gander, and if we're to defend such revisions in Watchmen there's no reason to get annoyed at similarly loose interpretations in Wolverine. In both cases the filmmakers are reshaping the source material because they believe it will tell a better story.
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Watchmen. A one shot story made into a 2 hour movie, and is able to sell to the general public.
Wolverine. Years worth of comics, condensed into a 90 minute action movie that will sell to the general public.
Honestly....I dont mind them changing DP around a bit...but c'mon. Laser eyes? Arm swords?
Atleast Watchmen kept the same theme. Yes it did. America bands together to stop a other worldy terror.
Wolverine. Years worth of comics, condensed into a 90 minute action movie that will sell to the general public.
Honestly....I dont mind them changing DP around a bit...but c'mon. Laser eyes? Arm swords?
Atleast Watchmen kept the same theme. Yes it did. America bands together to stop a other worldy terror.
Hmmm. Glad i'm going to see this movie for WOLVERINE and not Deadpool. (which i honestly could give two ^^^^s about) Looks like you DP fans will have to wait for HIS movie someday to get redepmtion.
Scar
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For a second there I thought I was having a stroke. Could swear I clicked on the Wolverine thread and instead I'm dropped in the middle of an intense Watchmen discussion. 
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I know right?
and if I wanted to watch a Wolverine movie, i'd watch X-Men 1-3. I wanted to see this movie to see Deadpool. But it looks like i'm not getting that.
and if I wanted to watch a Wolverine movie, i'd watch X-Men 1-3. I wanted to see this movie to see Deadpool. But it looks like i'm not getting that.
Scar
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I'm holding out hope for Deadpool that he's not Weapon XI, as I think they would have used Reynolds as the actor in those scenes rather than a lesser-known, even if he doesn't speak. Merc with a mouth, not mutant weapon without. I'm excited for Sabretooth alone, as well as his involved past with Wolverine. I hope they go to some means by the end of the movie to explain the discrepancy in Sabretooth's appearances in X1 and Origins. Even if they don't I won't be upset because he's an outright badass in this.
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Its a proven fact he is Deadpool. The toy confirms it. And rarely the toys do lie...
There's no otherworldy terror in the Watchmen film.
Or perhaps a movie called, oh, I don't know, Wolverine?
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Meh. ............
