loki2371
Super Freak
The Rogue One re-shoots were done by Gareth, not someone meddling in his movie to make it better, and only after he was given the OK to kill off the characters. He never thought Disney would allow him, but when Kathleen Kennedy thought it was great, he scrambled to redo what he originally wanted to do. So Rogue One is pretty dark in everyone dies. So Disney can and has made dark movies.
Don't remember any one article stating the DC execs attitude. It was rumour and talked about while the whole Affleck dropping out of Batman directing was floating around, and all the backlash BvS was getting. Again, just rumours, but very plausible do to all the negative press yet the movie being a success. WB has made a lot of bad decisions.. King Arthur, anyone???
When Disney acquired Marvel they were already successful with 2 movies. Iron Man, and Hulk, and Thor was in full production and nearly done. Feige was already involved and proved himself. I'm sure the Disney execs had discussions with Feige and were involved, but they didn't give him demands to change things.
From Variety " Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige notes that, despite running “the whole shebang” of the Disney company, Iger finds time to “read every script and have notes on every script.” The CEO also watches raw footage from films, giving “very good” notes on all of the works in progress."
(https://variety.com/2016/film/news/bob-iger-disney-pixar-marvel-lucasfilm-1201923672/)
While BvS is a stand alone movie, they tried awful hard to link to MOS. They literally inserted footage from MOS into the movie. They had to define why Batman hates and distrusts Superman to understand his motives and plot for the whole movie! How would the movie make any sense if those scenes were not their, or you hadn't already seen MOS?? And it clearly is also a subliminal setup for the upcoming JL. You honestly can't say that the scene with Wonder Woman reading an email wasn't shoehorned in for other movies. It served absolutely no plot point nor progression of BvS' story. Marvel did it subtly with teasers at the end of the credits, not forcing it into the movie. To this day I'm still amazed at how many people walk out of Marvel movies once the credits start and miss the teasers. It just baffles me every time.
DC does have their own formula, but they continually poked Marvel and saying how they were doing it better, and they're movies were more real and grounded and set in the real world. Snyder was the biggest bragger of all. Thus why the constant comparison to Marvel. DC just should have said, "good luck and great work so far Marvel, we hope we can be as successful." Hubris is a killer in many a fable and real life.
The money from Wonder Woman will help them make more movies, but doesn't mean they'll be any good or as successful. Female Wonder Woman fans aren't gonna flock to Aquaman to watch Mera have a few minutes of screen time. If JL can't make you care about or like Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg, those movies will fail. Marvel had strong leads. All the movies did well on their own, so sequels were justified. DC is already making movies based on characters not even knowing if they will resonate and stick with audience members and fans. I can see a Flash movie, but Aquaman? The exact reason why Marvel has not made Widow, Quick Silver, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Falcon, etc. They are supporting characters part of a whole. Obviously they feel the demand is not there, or they already have too many planned features in the works. They're not rushing their storyline, other than with Spidey, but that's time sensitive due to their agreement with Sony. Which I still don't agree with, but that's a whole other discussion.
I also would love if DC would make Batman as a prequel and show his history leading up to BvS with all the hints in the batcave with Robin and Joker.... But that won't happen cause it won't help sell any other movies. We already know from MOS that Superman is the beginning of the meta human. No one before him. Batman existed, but was a myth for only those in Gotham. So a prequel Batman is already limited in they can't really introduce any other heroes. Unless of course, like FOX X-Men movies, they couldn't give a crap about continuity and cohesiveness.... Which in all likely hood is right up there alley.
Don't remember any one article stating the DC execs attitude. It was rumour and talked about while the whole Affleck dropping out of Batman directing was floating around, and all the backlash BvS was getting. Again, just rumours, but very plausible do to all the negative press yet the movie being a success. WB has made a lot of bad decisions.. King Arthur, anyone???
When Disney acquired Marvel they were already successful with 2 movies. Iron Man, and Hulk, and Thor was in full production and nearly done. Feige was already involved and proved himself. I'm sure the Disney execs had discussions with Feige and were involved, but they didn't give him demands to change things.
From Variety " Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige notes that, despite running “the whole shebang” of the Disney company, Iger finds time to “read every script and have notes on every script.” The CEO also watches raw footage from films, giving “very good” notes on all of the works in progress."
(https://variety.com/2016/film/news/bob-iger-disney-pixar-marvel-lucasfilm-1201923672/)
While BvS is a stand alone movie, they tried awful hard to link to MOS. They literally inserted footage from MOS into the movie. They had to define why Batman hates and distrusts Superman to understand his motives and plot for the whole movie! How would the movie make any sense if those scenes were not their, or you hadn't already seen MOS?? And it clearly is also a subliminal setup for the upcoming JL. You honestly can't say that the scene with Wonder Woman reading an email wasn't shoehorned in for other movies. It served absolutely no plot point nor progression of BvS' story. Marvel did it subtly with teasers at the end of the credits, not forcing it into the movie. To this day I'm still amazed at how many people walk out of Marvel movies once the credits start and miss the teasers. It just baffles me every time.
DC does have their own formula, but they continually poked Marvel and saying how they were doing it better, and they're movies were more real and grounded and set in the real world. Snyder was the biggest bragger of all. Thus why the constant comparison to Marvel. DC just should have said, "good luck and great work so far Marvel, we hope we can be as successful." Hubris is a killer in many a fable and real life.
The money from Wonder Woman will help them make more movies, but doesn't mean they'll be any good or as successful. Female Wonder Woman fans aren't gonna flock to Aquaman to watch Mera have a few minutes of screen time. If JL can't make you care about or like Aquaman, Flash or Cyborg, those movies will fail. Marvel had strong leads. All the movies did well on their own, so sequels were justified. DC is already making movies based on characters not even knowing if they will resonate and stick with audience members and fans. I can see a Flash movie, but Aquaman? The exact reason why Marvel has not made Widow, Quick Silver, Scarlet Witch, Hawkeye, Falcon, etc. They are supporting characters part of a whole. Obviously they feel the demand is not there, or they already have too many planned features in the works. They're not rushing their storyline, other than with Spidey, but that's time sensitive due to their agreement with Sony. Which I still don't agree with, but that's a whole other discussion.
I also would love if DC would make Batman as a prequel and show his history leading up to BvS with all the hints in the batcave with Robin and Joker.... But that won't happen cause it won't help sell any other movies. We already know from MOS that Superman is the beginning of the meta human. No one before him. Batman existed, but was a myth for only those in Gotham. So a prequel Batman is already limited in they can't really introduce any other heroes. Unless of course, like FOX X-Men movies, they couldn't give a crap about continuity and cohesiveness.... Which in all likely hood is right up there alley.
..... Women Rule!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wonder Woman has saved the DC universe. 
... I haven't scene it yet. Most likely going Wednesday night. But seriously, how hard is it t say Wonder Woman is the best DC movie, while it's only company is MOS, BvS, and SS... All 3 movies panned by critics (FYI I like MOS, but feel it was ruined by BvS). It wasn't hard to to top those 3. And I have a feeling it will continue to be DC's best even after JL, Fishboy and Flash/crystal robot guy duo teamup of the century are released...
