Yeah, I love villains as well, but Apocalypse isn't a "tragic" character. Neither in the comics, nor in the film. The word you're searching for is delusional. Or selfish, narcissistic, literally anything else other than tragic. Magneto is tragic. Doom is tragic. Even Luthor can be called tragic depending on the story. Apocalypse? Nah. He's a Mutant Nazi, end of story.
X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
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Yeah, I love villains as well, but Apocalypse isn't a "tragic" character. Neither in the comics, nor in the film. The word you're searching for is delusional. Or selfish, narcissistic, literally anything else other than tragic. Magneto is tragic. Doom is tragic. Even Luthor can be called tragic depending on the story. Apocalypse? Nah. He's a Mutant Nazi, end of story.
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well alas, I found it to be tragic. I liked the guy. Survival of the fittest, bring it on.
Eh, different strokes for different folks.
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Btw I never even used the word goofy in my review of this movie. 
K, well there you go to anyone curious about it.
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If I had directed Apocalypse... This would've been the motivation behind the character
"He is better known as a romantic hero, due to his love for Catherine Earnshaw, than for his final years of vengeance in the second half of the novel, in which he grows into a bitter, haunted man, and for a number of incidents in his early life that suggest that he was an upset and sometimes malicious individual from the beginning. His complicated, mesmerizing, consumable and altogether bizarre nature makes him a rare character, with components of both the hero and villain."
"He is better known as a romantic hero, due to his love for Catherine Earnshaw, than for his final years of vengeance in the second half of the novel, in which he grows into a bitter, haunted man, and for a number of incidents in his early life that suggest that he was an upset and sometimes malicious individual from the beginning. His complicated, mesmerizing, consumable and altogether bizarre nature makes him a rare character, with components of both the hero and villain."
Agreed. FC and DOFP destroy any of the action in this film actually.
Comic Apocalypse: Shunned by his fellow countrymen, he was cared for by Ozymandias and give a Holy Mission by the Celestials. In the beginning sure, he was quite tragic, but he got worse and worse, to the point where he's a literal Mutant Nazi. I mean, this is his view of a perfect society:
Comic Doom: His mother sold her soul to protect her persecuted clan from the land's evil lord. his father died from frostbite, when he was ordered to help the king's dying wife. Eventually he wound up dethroning the evil king and liberating Latveria. He fought the demon Mephisto once every year to free his mother's soul. His ultimate goal is a peaceful earth. Doom is one of the most benevolent bad guys out there. Even Bast found him of pure heart. Read Triumph and Torment & The Books of Doom and you'll see.
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The theory of Darwinism is not akin to Nazi. Humans are no different than Apocalypse. Our species has raped and pillaged this earth for centuries while lesser advanced species have been exterminated as a result. Humans are just mad they aren't at the top of the food chain when someone like Apocalypse comes around.
Did he blow up the nukes? NO
He disarmed them...
I guess it depends on ur perspective. He's just a more ruthless Magneto but the comics distorted him over time to be something he's not... Which is human
Did he blow up the nukes? NO
He disarmed them...
I guess it depends on ur perspective. He's just a more ruthless Magneto but the comics distorted him over time to be something he's not... Which is human
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Btw I never even used the word goofy in my review of this movie.
That's only because it's forbidden in your Disney contract.
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They honestly didn't know what to do with him.
The Apocalypse we see in the film's three acts should have been Apocalypse just in the first act.
The film's second act is where the majority of the problems are. He goes from assembling horsemen straight to wanting Xavier as his next host body after he encounters him via Magneto and Cerebro.
The second act should have been the first fight between the X-Men and the Horsemen, with the world watching and basically going to hell.
Third act Xavier and co. figure out how to get through the Horsemen - or just as in the film its Magneto's turn that brings them down. Then have a massive battle where Apocalypse fights all of them with everything he's got and the mitary aid the X-Men in their fight. They realize he's indestructible and lock him away somewhere, etc, until the next time.
Singer and Kinberg honestly wasted the biggest X-Men villain of all time. What they did to Apocalypse would have been okay for Sinister or Magneto, just not Apocalypse.
The Apocalypse we see in the film's three acts should have been Apocalypse just in the first act.
The film's second act is where the majority of the problems are. He goes from assembling horsemen straight to wanting Xavier as his next host body after he encounters him via Magneto and Cerebro.
The second act should have been the first fight between the X-Men and the Horsemen, with the world watching and basically going to hell.
Third act Xavier and co. figure out how to get through the Horsemen - or just as in the film its Magneto's turn that brings them down. Then have a massive battle where Apocalypse fights all of them with everything he's got and the mitary aid the X-Men in their fight. They realize he's indestructible and lock him away somewhere, etc, until the next time.
Singer and Kinberg honestly wasted the biggest X-Men villain of all time. What they did to Apocalypse would have been okay for Sinister or Magneto, just not Apocalypse.
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Great movie. Sophie is even hotter than Jennifer.
Logan was unexpected.
Sixteen years (!) into this franchise and it's been completely played out.
The promise of First Class has been fully squandered, following the trajectory of DoFP.
X2 remains the peak of the X-Men films: best script, best casting, and best execution.
Even X1 is better than Apocalypse, and it (like X2) had a mere fraction of this film's budget.
Apocalypse suffers from a poor script (wretched dialogue), hackneyed editing (especially in the third act) and a massively undercooked villain.
Issac is utterly wasted as Apocalypse: literally a bad guy plucked from Power Rangers or Voltron.
Beast, Psylocke & Angel are all underdeveloped and underused. Mere eye candy.
Conversely, way too much plot time is given to JLaw.
No stakes, no suspense, nothing but CGI mayhem that reverts to the status quo by the end of the film.
Predictable fan service like before, just staler and more repetitive.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Save this one for a rental, folks!
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The promise of First Class has been fully squandered, following the trajectory of DoFP.
X2 remains the peak of the X-Men films: best script, best casting, and best execution.
Even X1 is better than Apocalypse, and it (like X2) had a mere fraction of this film's budget.
Apocalypse suffers from a poor script (wretched dialogue), hackneyed editing (especially in the third act) and a massively undercooked villain.
Issac is utterly wasted as Apocalypse: literally a bad guy plucked from Power Rangers or Voltron.
Beast, Psylocke & Angel are all underdeveloped and underused. Mere eye candy.
Conversely, way too much plot time is given to JLaw.
No stakes, no suspense, nothing but CGI mayhem that reverts to the status quo by the end of the film.
Predictable fan service like before, just staler and more repetitive.
Wash. Rinse. Repeat. Save this one for a rental, folks!
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Yeah, well, thing is, Apocalypse is the guy who screams "purification" and has currently jumped from mutants to Inhumans as the "Top Species". He's a tyrant even when mutants are concerned, and his idea of "Darwinism" is just killing them and letting the "strong" survive in a hostile environment. Darwinism and the concept of evolution is a lot more complex than Apocalypse's "create a ravaged wasteland and let the strong survive".
Besides, we are an intelligent species. We create art, we feel, we can speak. Our DNA is 2 meters long for ****'s sake. And that's in each cell. You can't really talk about evolution of the human species as if you're talking about ants. It's a whole different ballpark.
Still, Apocalypse can be a good villain, and IMO, he was a good villain in the film, but most of his "greatness" came from the fact that he was acting as a cult leader. The Comic Book Apocalypse never really made an "appearance" as far as I'm concerned. Which is alright, as long as the character is good. Same with Zemo in CW. He was very different from the source material, but I still liked him very much.
Soon you'll be like
Who's to say I'm not already? I even came up with a song:
Fun Fact: That's how I spend my Sundays. I praise Lord Doom and spread His Word through the Chibi-Dooms.
Sounds much better. When you think about it, what ends up being the final battle....is actually the first time they fight him...and they win!
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