X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016

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Yeah, but TDK is even worse because from the very start they had guys killing each other, and they don't show any injuries or they cut away...as soon as the film starts. Even the scene with the guy getting hit by the school bus looked terrible because the bus wasn't even close to touching him. The worst part is Joker, he's a slasher, dude walks around with a knife telling stories and cutting people, yet they never show anything :lol There should be an R rated director's cut (no pun intended).

Idk if adding cgi blood will make TDK better, that's not what the movie is about.

The movie is more psychological and the viceral was kept to a minimum, used just for Dent's face and Joker's mouth cut.

Look, Rambo 4 still remains one of the goriest movies ever made, it's so gory it actually draws comparisons to horror movies like of Day of the Dead, Reanimator and a handful of others plus some brutal gore movies from Japan.

Stallone wanted a no holds bar movie that showed the reality of war, makes sense.

TDK was an emotional cat and mouse game about corruption, loyalty and the loss of trust.

Don't need to show blood for that story to be appropriately presented.
 
Agreed, and they still could have given Jackman face time when Jean removes the helmet right before he runs off into the snow like a lobotomized mental patient.

Is it really that bad? You're like the third or fourth person to rag on Jackman running. It's almost making me want to see the movie just so I can laugh at that scene.
 
Idk if adding cgi blood will make TDK better, that's not what the movie is about.

The movie is more psychological and the viceral was kept to a minimm, used just for Dent's face and Joker's mouth cut.

Look, Rambo 4 still remains one of the goriest movies ever made, it's so gory it actually draws comparisons to horror movies like of Day of the Dead, Reanimator and a handful of others plus some brutal gore movies from Japan.

Stallone wanted a no holds bar movie that showed the reality of war.

TDK was an emotional cat and mouse game about corruption, loyalty and the loss of trust.

Don't need to show blood for that story to be appropriately presented.

Come on, you're telling me that Gambol's death wouldn't be better if you actually saw the Joker cutting his neck...or mouth...or whatever it is that killed Gambol instantly? :lol That's the one thing I hated about that scene...such a long speech and so much suspense, and it ends with someone's reaction and an intense musical sound to signal something bad happened. Even when Joker burns the money, the fact that he's also burning a guy alive is totally lost in that scene because they couldn't show the guy burning or the guy screaming, which it would be pretty horrific.

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Jackman running was hilarious. I laughed at the movie a few times actually. Another weird thing is that watching cyclops for too long made him look silly. Like you should only see him blasting away for a second or two.

Anyway, I thought the villain had great potential. I loved the beginning. His electronics trick was weird. The biggest problem is that the four horsemen are lame. Magneto barely did anything and the other three were small time. The cgi backgrounds got boring and the world felt very empty. I hated all the Poland scenes.
Aside from that, the ending where they were all working as a team were great. Too bad it lasted about ten seconds.

My favorite parts were when Xavier was running the school. I wish there was more of that.

oh and I forgot about havok. His death was so lame with poor twists. He basically did it to himself and then quicksilver just happened to miss him? They should have just let apocalypse kill him
 
Jackman running was hilarious. I laughed at the movie a few times actually. Another weird thing is that watching cyclops for too long made him look silly. Like you should only see him blasting away for a second or two.

Anyway, I thought the villain had great potential. I loved the beginning. His electronics trick was weird. The biggest problem is that the four horsemen are lame. Magneto barely did anything and the other three were small time. The cgi backgrounds got boring and the world felt very empty. I hated all the Poland scenes.
Aside from that, the ending where they were all working as a team were great. Too bad it lasted about ten seconds.

My favorite parts were when Xavier was running the school. I wish there was more of that.

oh and I forgot about havok. His death was so lame with poor twists. He basically did it to himself and then quicksilver just happened to miss him? They should have just let apocalypse kill him

Yeah Apoc should've taken Havok out giving some gravitas to the stakes, but nope he died because QS wanted to save guppies.
 
Oh man what kind of lame wire jump was that, it didn't even look like he landed near anyone. :lol

He looked horrible standing there trying to look bad ass with that silly thing on his head. :slap
 
Wow...Wolverine's helmet does look silly :lol It reminds me of Blanca from the 90's Street Fighter film for some reason.



Oh man what kind of lame wire jump was that, it didn't even look like he landed near anyone. :lol

He looked horrible standing there trying to look bad ass with that silly thing on his head. :slap

:rotfl :rotfl :rotfl

That jump was almost frame for frame this. And that's whats in the final movie :rotfl

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SPOILERS BELOW

Just got back from this one, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. I might like it more than Civil War (if only Spidey was in this one, it would be no contest!). I would rank the first 2/3rds up there with any X-Men movie to date. I found myself smiling and just reflecting about how well everything was working together. In particular, I was glad to see Cyclops get more attention than in any other X-Men movie to date, and for him to be likable, and to demonstrate some flashes of what he became in the comic under Claremont. But there was very little in that section of the movie that I disliked. I thought Isaac was intimidating and cool. I liked the guy cast as Angel a lot (though not much to connect him to the comic version). The casting in general I really liked, in fact. Reflecting on things as I left, I was thinking back to the closest, recent parallel to this in my mind--Age of Ultron--and I found this better across the board. More coherent story, better acting, more interesting characters, better pacing, fewer WTF moments. I'm very excited about seeing the team moving forward. . .so long as Cyke is being prepped to lead the team, and Mystique gets the hell out of there.

Other things I enjoyed was Caliban and what seemed to be Morlocks, '80s stuff was great, though I'm not sure that we needed Mags to get traumatized terribly again, that was all well done, I thought the special effects were on par with anything else out there, and the Quicksilver scene, once again, was great. Jean turning into Phoenix was funny, because it is like a fantasy for Game of Thrones fans who would love to see Sansa pull something like this on Ramsay and Petyr Baelish. Not sure if we needed to have the Phoenix card pulled this soon, but in movies they do move the timeframe up moreso than you would see in other media. I would love to see them tackle Dark Phoenix saga in the near future, and to do it in a space opera with the Shi'ar, Imperial Guard, Cyclops's dad, etc.

But the one big issue I had was with the ending, just in the sense that it felt like it went on too long, and was just overkill. At a certain point, when the world's blowing up all over the place, you get a bit desensitized, and it would have been better to scale back or. . .do something else with it. And on this point, I think it compares to Age of Ultron, which suffered from the same affliction. But maybe this is mandated by the consumer focus groups who expect ridiculously over the top action scenes to cap off comic book movies. So, it did feel a bit "overstuffed," though that's par for the course with comic movies nowadays. Every one I've seen this year had that problem on one level or another.

Quibbles: Psylocke was wasted, and seemed inserted just purely as fan service. And she and Angel both felt like afterthoughts in the big showdown, though there was a lot that had to be fit in there, again. The post-credits scene might be the worst I've seen in memory. And that's saying something with all the lame "here's Thanos again!" teases in the MCU. But I don't recall this Essex organization at all from the comics, and it just felt so generic. Bummed we probably won't see Angel again, though who knows (we already saw another incarnation of him in another movie. . .maybe this wasn't Warren Worthington?). The Wolverine tease seemed a bit unnecessary, but it didn't really bother me. Again, seems generic to have him rampaging in a Weapon X facility. Seems like we've already seen this numerous times. Not thrilled with Mystique taking up this much screen time, though I think she was fine.
 
SPOILERS BELOW

Just got back from this one, and I enjoyed it quite a bit. I might like it more than Civil War (if only Spidey was in this one, it would be no contest!). I would rank the first 2/3rds up there with any X-Men movie to date. I found myself smiling and just reflecting about how well everything was working together. In particular, I was glad to see Cyclops get more attention than in any other X-Men movie to date, and for him to be likable, and to demonstrate some flashes of what he became in the comic under Claremont. But there was very little in that section of the movie that I disliked. I thought Isaac was intimidating and cool. I liked the guy cast as Angel a lot (though not much to connect him to the comic version). The casting in general I really liked, in fact. Reflecting on things as I left, I was thinking back to the closest, recent parallel to this in my mind--Age of Ultron--and I found this better across the board. More coherent story, better acting, more interesting characters, better pacing, fewer WTF moments. I'm very excited about seeing the team moving forward. . .so long as Cyke is being prepped to lead the team, and Mystique gets the hell out of there.

Other things I enjoyed was Caliban and what seemed to be Morlocks, '80s stuff was great, though I'm not sure that we needed Mags to get traumatized terribly again, that was all well done, I thought the special effects were on par with anything else out there, and the Quicksilver scene, once again, was great. Jean turning into Phoenix was funny, because it is like a fantasy for Game of Thrones fans who would love to see Sansa pull something like this on Ramsay and Petyr Baelish. Not sure if we needed to have the Phoenix card pulled this soon, but in movies they do move the timeframe up moreso than you would see in other media. I would love to see them tackle Dark Phoenix saga in the near future, and to do it in a space opera with the Shi'ar, Imperial Guard, Cyclops's dad, etc.

But the one big issue I had was with the ending, just in the sense that it felt like it went on too long, and was just overkill. At a certain point, when the world's blowing up all over the place, you get a bit desensitized, and it would have been better to scale back or. . .do something else with it. And on this point, I think it compares to Age of Ultron, which suffered from the same affliction. But maybe this is mandated by the consumer focus groups who expect ridiculously over the top action scenes to cap off comic book movies. So, it did feel a bit "overstuffed," though that's par for the course with comic movies nowadays. Every one I've seen this year had that problem on one level or another.

Quibbles: Psylocke was wasted, and seemed inserted just purely as fan service. And she and Angel both felt like afterthoughts in the big showdown, though there was a lot that had to be fit in there, again. The post-credits scene might be the worst I've seen in memory. And that's saying something with all the lame "here's Thanos again!" teases in the MCU. But I don't recall this Essex organization at all from the comics, and it just felt so generic. Bummed we probably won't see Angel again, though who knows (we already saw another incarnation of him in another movie. . .maybe this wasn't Warren Worthington?). The Wolverine tease seemed a bit unnecessary, but it didn't really bother me. Again, seems generic to have him rampaging in a Weapon X facility. Seems like we've already seen this numerous times. Not thrilled with Mystique taking up this much screen time, though I think she was fine.

To the best of my knowledge, Sinister has never had a company, as he essentially went "underground" after the death of his wife and son. The closest he's come, is creating "Sinister London", a place where everyone is "Sinister", he has tons of clones of Cyclops, Sabes and Gambit, and he has a harem of Madelyne Pryor clones. Oh, and he also used the Dreaming Celestial's head for it. Gillen's Uncanny X-Men run, I believe.
 
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