Wouldn't change the movie, but man to see Apocalypse look like that on-screen would've been amazing. Instead we got
(Apologies if the Ivan Ooze thing is old I haven't been in this thread often)
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X-Men: Apocalypse - May 27, 2016
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So in the Empire podcast, Singer hints that Apocalypse is alive and brings up how we never saw what Apocalypse was before he inhabited the old body he discarded in the opening of the film to transfer into Oscar Isaac's.
Basically they're gonna try and pull a Deadpool here and fix him later on. Apocalypse has reconstituted himself from nothing before (The Twelve).
Basically they're gonna try and pull a Deadpool here and fix him later on. Apocalypse has reconstituted himself from nothing before (The Twelve).
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But if someone died then CW would be a good movie.
Except the death wouldn't be significant enough and would have bad wire work and Kevin Feige and CGI AND DisneyBAD and outofchips and RAAAArrrrrr!!!!
As it's plainly written in "The Book of the Internet", Paragraph 5.6 of the "Movies based on CBMs" Chapter, the Law clearly states:
"The movies have to follow the comics precicely, even to the tiniest detail! To deviate from that, and to go against canon, is punishable. Unless the comics don't agree with my version of events. Then the movies must be in line with my own version of the story, because it's clearly superior and elevates the writer's original tale. Otherwise it's bloody awful and I have every right to criticize it until the end of days, and treat my personal opinion as fact. Oh, and the rest of them who like those inferior movies are ****ING SHEEPLE WHO BOW BEFORE THE MOUSE LIKE THE BRAINWASHED ****S THEY ARE!!!111!!!"
I mean, come on mate, it's all plainly written in the Holy Text...
Anyway, I have to prepare myself for my weekly exam. The doctor puts those weird goggles on to me and makes me see some weird stuff. Everytime I walk out of his office though, I have a sudden urge to increase my Marvel Pull List and buy more Disney Merch... Now that I mention it, I better add Gwen-Pool as well, that book is sure to be a classic!
But if someone died then CW would be a good movie.
Except the death wouldn't be significant enough and would have bad wire work
and Kevin Feige and CGI AND DisneyBAD and outofchips and RAAAArrrrrr!!!
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I'm sure Singer will make reincarnated Apoc a man-woman hybrid, Isaac already had that drag makeup vibe going on.
I bet they will hire Caitlin for the role but i'm sure Tom Hardy will lobby hard for the part as well.
Apoc even told Xavier that he wanted to be everyone.
Wait, what was Apoc's end goal again, there were so many I keep forgetting.
I bet they will hire Caitlin for the role but i'm sure Tom Hardy will lobby hard for the part as well.
Apoc even told Xavier that he wanted to be everyone.
Wait, what was Apoc's end goal again, there were so many I keep forgetting.
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Man, people are still going with the "Cap should've died!!11!1" thing? You do know that it was all because of Brubaker and his hard-on for Bucky, right? The seeds for that were planted at the beginning of the run, and that was always his end-game. CW just happened to be around the corner, so he used that as the backdrop.
As for the Punisher and Daredevil, what's the point? Frank killing 4 criminals, having the **** kicked out of him and rescuing Spidey? And Daredevil just comparing Stark to Judas? For all these to work you need a whole lot more than what the MCU has already built. CW had the basis of 60+ years of continuity, not just 12 movies or so. I mean, come on...
Copy Pasted from a month or so back, from the CW thread. I'm too bored to re-structure it...
Man, this just shows you did not read the comics you're "quoting". So, as a comic fan:
1) The entirety of the Civil War began from Nitro detonating due to the carelessness of the New Warriors. They were filming a TV-Show, they rushed in and they lost. Nitro detonated and killed about 600 people. I don't see the difference between the catalyst being a school, and the catalyst being an international incident.
2) The villains in question were already established super-villains that Tony had been amassing alongside Zemo over at Thunderbolts. At the time, they had over 100 imprissoned villains, and only used the deadliest. Meanwhile, behind closed doors, Zemo was creating his "own" Thunderbolts Army in order to win against the Grandmaster, an Elder of the Universe.
3) The Prison in the Negative Zone was Project #42 from Richards' 100 Ideas Initiative. They were basically 100 Ideas that Richards, Stark and Pym came up with Post-Stanford, in order to make the world a better place. But with all of them being kinda nuts, and Hank Pym being a Skrull in disguise, they went overboard. After the CW had ended, it was left abandoned, and Blastaar took over, which led to Jack Flag joining the GotG.
4) The casualties you speak of were Black Goliath, Jack O'Lantern and the Jester. The former was killed by Ragnarok, a Thor clone which was created since Thor was dead at the time, fullfilling the prophecy of Ragnarok. He went haywire and killed him. The Jester, Jack O'Lantern and 2 other Z-List villains were killed by the Punisher during his rescue of Spider-Man and inside Cap's hideout. So, yeah, the only "major" death, was equilavent of "the black guy dies first". Yay... Afterwards, Herc smashed his head in.
5) The fight you all love to say "that was a war!" was still not as brutal, because people were still not really rying to kill each other. All the fights took place in mostly evacuated areas, and the last one, which took place in the city, was halted by Cap as soon as he saw that they were simply fighting just for the hell of it. If they were bloodlusted, he'd have just let Cloak and his team drop the other to their deaths. Not to mention that the final scene with Cap looking as he was gonna kill Tony was straight from the page.
Here, Sue Storm is in the opposite side of Reed, but as soon as he gets hurt, she rushes to save her husband. So no, she's not "bloodlusted".
These are all the heroes and villains. Wow, they have Solo, the Shroud, Tigra, Nightawk, etc, etc... I'm sure all of them played a huge part in the comic. Oh, wiat, they didn't! The major characters were Cap, Tony, Vision and the like! Huh, I never would've guessed...
6) Wanna know why Tony was so adamant about the SHRA? Because he and some of his buddies formed a club called "The Illuminati", which was there to "govern all affairs". Black Panther refused to join them, and he was damn right. He stayed out of the conflict and only, in the end, aided Cap.
Here's a nice read-up on Reed, Hank and Tony: https://goodcomics.comicbookresources...istration-act/
6.5) Still on the Illuminati, these boys went to the Skrull homeworld, wrecked **** up and warned them never to try and invade the Earth again. So, what do the Skrulls do? Abduct Pym, replace him and put him there as a sleeper. His job? Try and divide the Avengers from the inside, hence why "Hank" was so supportive of the SHRA. Thus, CW paved the way for Secret Invasion.
7) And here we come to the biggest "issue", Cap's Death. Newsflash: Cap didn't die in CW. He died in Fallen Son. Cap didn't die because of the events of Civil War, he died because of the Red Skull and Faustus. That info aside, plans for Cap's death were already in stone, as Brubaker wanted to write Bucky-Cap. CW was just the perfect time. And besides, Cap didn't "die", he got stuck in a space-bullet. The whole deal involved Lukin, Red Skull, Faustus and even Burnside.
So yeah, here's your precious source material. To translate Civil War correctly, you need:
1) The New Warriors (Nitro can just be a minor, newly introduced villain)
2) The F4 and Negative Zone
3) The Illuminati and the Skrulls
4) Red Skull, Faustus, Doom and the Osborn administration
5) Zemo, his Moonstones and his amry, plus the Elders of the Universe
6) Ragnarok, the event and the clone
7) More minor, D-List characters
Wait, you mean these things don't exist in the MCU? Well, I never would have guessed. But here's my view:
-Stanford = Lagos
-New Warriors = Wanda
-Nitro = Crossbones
-Prison 42 = Raft
-Red Skull/Faustus/Skrulls/outside force which made the war inevitable = Zemo
-Villains = Spider-Man (person/people brought over to turn the tide)
It's not a perfect adaptation you say? Of course it's bloody noy, cause otherwise you'd need 20 damn years of the MCU an God knows how many damn movies. Now, you'll say "they could keep some stuff", which would then bring us to "they're changing stuff". Honest truth? The movie is damn faithful to the comic.
There. You know how sick and ****ing tired I am of "comic book purists" saying they didn't follow the source material, pretending that just remembering Cap on the stairs counts? Here's your gosh-darn source material. You want that? You want all this convulted storyline with branches everywhere? Be my guest. But do not tell me that there's no "resemblance" to the comic.
Just admit that you wanted Cap to die. Well, tough luck, the protagonists never die, be it comics or movies. Guess we should campaign for Batman to die in JL ala Final Crisis and have him return through time as Batman-Pirate, Batman-Cabeman and Batman-Knight... Either, boom, here are your scans, here's your source material, here's everything!
Always awesome when the law is laid down. Courtesy of SSF's resident comic expert; darthkostis.
Seriously, your posts are great. Thank you.
Someone rep this guy.
But letting Fox-Men slide is A ok
...That's different... Those movies are so much better than the other CBMs that they're allowed to deviate from the source material, since the end film is of such a higher quality.
you guys better be careful what you say about disney.... you have been warned
Good job, crows. The Commander shall be pleased that you are carrying out your duties. There might be even an extra zero in your paycheck next month. Or so I hear...
I got him repped for you.
Always awesome when the law is laid down. Courtesy of SSF's resident comic expert; darthkostis.
Seriously, your posts are great. Thank you.
Someone rep this guy.
It's not needed though, I'm just doing my job, not letting misiformation slip through the cracks and leak to the minds of the unsuspecting readers. After all, it's just a regular day at the offi-uh, "room". Yeah, "room"...
To destroy the world, and build a better one, to paraphrase. Based on his reactions to modernity (TVs, cars, behavior of people), it was insinuated that he felt hubris, shallowness, and materialism were taking too much hold in the population. They didn't flesh this part out as well as they could have, but given some of his comments, and given the comic version's motivations, he presumably had a "survival of the fittest" plan in place for who would remain after the world was destroyed. Or at least, who would remain in charge.
Thanks for providing a comment related to the film, JYE! You deserve rep points for that alone given that 99% of the comments in this thread are woefully off topic!
I certainly don't think Apoc should come back anytime soon, if at all. There are scores of X-Men villains we have yet to see, or see done well. If you want to do a story of a mutant who doesn't have a tangible body, go with Proteus, who was alluded to in this movie as another kind of Easter egg (it is Moira's son).
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