X-Men: Days of Future Past

[pturtle]

TDKR needs a directors cut with the Taila crap removed, gutted, she just remains a do gooder that rode Wayne lap. Take out the JGL scene where he claims to see Batman in the eyes nonsense, one rung below grandpa waving goodbye while him and old yeller get swept up by a tornado. Smooth some of the time crunch issues by using the dropped footage to focus on the Gotham occupation. I really loved Bane pulling a Red Dawn on Gotham, I just hated some of the subpot crap they littered this with.

I agree with most of what you said. That JGL knowing Batman was absolutely terrible. Talia sub-plot I didn’t mind though and was kind of needed to link this story back with Begins. But her death scene looked worse than this

I just think the Dark Knight trilogy is judged a bit harsher than most superhero movies because some people don’t like how serious the films take themselves.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

MOS gets better with every viewing for me. I can enjoy both the Reeve and Cavill versions of the character, both have their strengths over each other.

Despite what some would argue, Reeve wasn't a perfect Superman in my opinion.

Before I'm scalded, I have already said that I enjoy Reeve's Superman

 

[thenammagazine]

Bane wasn’t a henchman though

What wrong with Bruce retiring to end the trilogy?

And I thought most of the plot holes have been pretty much answered since the movie came out.

Batman quitting on Gotham to run off to Italy with Selina goes against everything Bruce Wayne stands for. But it's not the first time he quit either. We find out in the beginning, that he quit right after TDK, so he quits TWICE. Then there's Joker's complete omission which makes zero sense from a story standpoint. As for Bane not being a henchmen, you must've missed the end where he cries like a little ***** and Talia being revealed as the mastermind of everything, which would make Bane her henchman.

 

[Niltusk]

I agree with most of what you said. That JGL knowing Batman was absolutely terrible. Talia sub-plot I didn’t mind though and was kind of needed to link this story back with Begins. But her death scene looked worse than this

I just think the Dark Knight trilogy is judged a bit harsher than most superhero movies because some people don’t like how serious the films take themselves.

The worst of it was, I was excited about JGL's inclusion. Too bad it just ended up being a nod and a *******.

 

[jye4ever]

Wait...a Superman movie where two god-like beings are pummeling each other has over-the-top action? That's just...well...the way it should be.

 

[Niltusk]

MOS gets better with every viewing for me. I can enjoy both the Reeve and Cavill versions of the character, both have their strengths over each other.

Despite what some would argue, Reeve wasn't a perfect Superman in my opinion.

Before I'm scalded, I have already said that I enjoy Reeve's Superman

Hmmm... hard to agree with, since he essentially for all intents and purposes not only set, but is the bar. that being said, I'm very happy with Cavill as his successor.

 

[IXI Nick IXI]

I liked how Wayne had a bad knee so he put on a super brace that allows his flesh-and-bone foot kick through solid cement. Oh and how his broken back was fixed with a punch and some rope, followed by tremendous support of some of the most heinous criminals around leading him to escape the middle of nowhere and get back to Gotham while having no money to his name. Not to mention that this version of Bane is even less accurate than that Batman and Robin crap.

 

[jye4ever]

MOS Superman smiled for 5 seconds.

What an amazing personality.

 

[IXI Nick IXI]

Hmmm... hard to agree with, since he essentially for all intents and purposes not only set, but is the bar. that being said, I'm very happy with Cavill as his successor.

The two versions of Superman being compared (Reeve and Cavill) are from different periods of time in Supe's life. Cavill's Superman was an unpracticed and inexperienced Superman filled with pain and rage. Reeve's Superman never deals with that...

 

[pturtle]

Batman quitting on Gotham goes against everything Bruce Wayne stands for. As for Bane not being a henchmen, you must've missed the end where he cries like a little ***** and Talia being revealed as the mastermind of everything, which would make Bane her henchman.

Like I said before, maybe comic fans or diehard Batman fans might have a problem with him quitting but theres really nothing wrong with it. Bruce in these films was never looking to be Batman forever and that was made obvious since Begins. He wanted to quit in The Dark Knight as well to be with Rachel, so I don’t know why it is a problem in this movie.

Bane and Talia seemed to be like partners to me, like when she told him to let Batman live. As soon as she leaves he was going to kill Batman anyway. But even still, in the comics, Bane was a sucker for Talia on several occasions.

But as a movie, I still find TDKR to have great acting, great directing, and a fitting conclusion to the Nolan trilogy. My only really problem was forcing JGL into the film. I didn’t think he should have such a big role, but I do know he was needed, to carry on the legend.

 

[Dark_Knight_89]

Hmmm... hard to agree with, since he essentially for all intents and purposes not only set, but is the bar. that being said, I'm very happy with Cavill as his successor.

I agree that he 100% set the bar for all future superhero portrayals, but that is different to being a 100% perfect portrayal of Superman I think.

Reeve excels at the American Boy Scout aspect of the character, but not so much on the 'more powerful than a locomotive' side of the character.

 

[thenammagazine]

I liked how Wayne had a bad knee so he put on a super brace that allows his flesh-and-bone foot kick through solid cement. Oh and how his broken back was fixed with a punch and some rope, followed by tremendous support of some of the most heinous criminals around leading him to escape the middle of nowhere and get back to Gotham while having no money to his name. Not to mention that this version of Bane is even less accurate than that Batman and Robin crap.

Let's not forget that that bad knee was a result of him being batman for what, only a couple years?

 

[jye4ever]

I agree that he 100% set the bar for all future superhero portrayals, but that is different to being a 100% perfect portrayal of Superman I think.

Reeve excels at the American Boy Scout aspect of the character, but not so much on the 'more powerful than a locomotive' side of the character.

If CGI had been available for STM you wouldn't be saying this.

Reeve Superman lifted a fault line above his head.

Even without CGI that scene with Superman underground lifting that huge rock is more powerful looking than anything from MOS.

Tentacle battle.

 

[pturtle]

I liked how Wayne had a bad knee so he put on a super brace that allows his flesh-and-bone foot kick through solid cement. Oh and how his broken back was fixed with a punch and some rope, followed by tremendous support of some of the most heinous criminals around leading him to escape the middle of nowhere and get back to Gotham while having no money to his name. Not to mention that this version of Bane is even less accurate than that Batman and Robin crap.

None of what you wrote are plot holes. Maybe they aren’t believable to you, but they are not plot holes or even detrimental to the film enough for it to be considered garbage. Also these films carry the spirit of the comics but that is as far as they go. They aren’t meant to be depicted just like the comics. They kind of remind me to the Noir series Marvel published a while back. Just taking those characters and making them work as real as possible in a film.

Everyone who was wanting the fantasy in their films, will be getting that with Ben Afflecks version is seems.

 

[pturtle]

The worst of it was, I was excited about JGL's inclusion. Too bad it just ended up being a nod and a *******.

Yea same here, I was really excited until he started talking. He was forced into every situation in TDKR kind of like Amy Adams in MOS.

 

[krec9]

Batman quitting on Gotham to run off to Italy with Selina goes against everything Bruce Wayne stands for. But it's not the first time he quit either. We find out in the beginning, that he quit right after TDK, so he quits TWICE. Then there's Joker's complete omission which makes zero sense from a story standpoint. As for Bane not being a henchmen, you must've missed the end where he cries like a little ***** and Talia being revealed as the mastermind of everything, which would make Bane her henchman.

Sums it up perfectly.

 

[krec9]

Yea same here, I was really excited until he started talking. He was forced into every situation in TDKR kind of like Amy Adams in MOS.

I like Amy Adams but yea she did nothing in MOS.

 

[pturtle]

Sums it up perfectly.

But how does it go against everything Bruce believes if he was trying to quit since the second film? It might not be Bruce Wayne of the comics’ ideology but is it for the film version.

 

[krec9]

But how does it go against everything Bruce believes if he was trying to quit since the second film? It might not be Bruce Wayne of the comics’ ideology but is it for the film version.

So after Rachel dies he quit ? Thats out of character right their like it or not he made a promise to rid the city of crime .

 

[thenammagazine]

But how does it go against everything Bruce believes if he was trying to quit since the second film? It might not be Bruce Wayne of the comics’ ideology but is it for the film version.

Which is exactly why it sucked.