X-Men: Days of Future Past

[Khev]

DOFP is getting Minimates, also.

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=DMC12151&mode=retail

Really this is the primary reason I don't buy into arguments that they aren't being licensed. You could say that Marvel/Disney is behind the scenes making threats to Hasbro or whatever, but I just don't know that Singer's character designs are as marketable to kids as the generally more colorful stuff you see from Spider-Man and Marvel Studios.

How do you explain the glut of Nolan Batman figures then? DOFP is certainly more "colorful" than those.

 

[Biojex]

DOFP is getting Minimates, also.

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=DMC12151&mode=retail

Really this is the primary reason I don't buy into arguments that they aren't being licensed. You could say that Marvel/Disney is behind the scenes making threats to Hasbro or whatever, but I just don't know that Singer's character designs are as marketable to kids as the generally more colorful stuff you see from Spider-Man and Marvel Studios.

I don't buy into it either. And looking at those mini mates...yeah they're pretty boring. There's also likely a very business reason. Xmen toys just aren't selling as well as Avengers and/or spidey related merchandise. So they don't feel the need to devote resources to a line. It's sad…disappointing…but eh business is business.

How do you explain the glut of Nolan Batman figures then? DOFP is certainly more "colorful" than those.

I feel like kids weren't really buying a lot of those. It was mostly "adult" collectors. TDKR toys were clogging the shelves for a while there.

 

[karamazov80]

How do you explain the glut of Nolan Batman figures then? DOFP is certainly more "colorful" than those.

You aren't seriously comparing anything else to Batman, are you? Batman always sells, no matter what.

 

[Khev]

You aren't seriously comparing anything else to Batman, are you? Batman always sells, no matter what.

With regard to colors, sure. Fine then. Forget Batman. What about the new black RoboCop? Even he had mutliple figures, both low-end and high-end and he was neither as visually interesting nor as mainstream as the X-Men.

 

[EVILFACE]

I feel like kids weren't really buying a lot of those. It was mostly "adult" collectors. TDKR toys were clogging the shelves for a while there.

Kids are not wanting action figures anymore. It's all about video games now. The only people buying up toys off Wal-Mart shelves are adults.

 

[Biojex]

Kids are not wanting action figures anymore. It's all about video games now. The only people buying up toys off Wal-Mart shelves are adults.

That does seem to be the way of things. Video games, smart phones etc.... Those are the Turbo Mans of this generation.

 

[karamazov80]

With regard to colors, sure. Fine then. Forget Batman. What about the new black RoboCop? Even he had mutliple figures, both low-end and high-end and he was neither as visually interesting nor as mainstream as the X-Men.

Looks like those aren't Hasbro, but "Jada Toys." If you're a small, upstart toy company you're probably more likely to gamble, and be happy with smaller profits. But maybe you're right. I would just think it odd that Diamond would somehow be granted permission to make toys while other companies would be denied that.

 

[Khev]

Hmm, I guess I still just have a hard time believing your assumption that X-Men designs "are less marketable to kids." Winter Soldier figures were almost all dark (Stealth Cap, WS, Widow, Falcon) but they got a full line of toys.

 

[karamazov80]

Look at the case breakdowns:

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23436&mode=retail

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS23644&mode=retail

Mostly traditional looking Caps, his villain, and a stealth version of Cap resembling his comic counterpart, with a big ass blue and yellow missile launcher.

And in fact, the Wolverine had merchandise. Same thing--mostly yellow/blue Wolvie, comic styled Samurai, and ninjas:

https://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=HAS22829&mode=retail

Maybe if we didn't get a Wolvie movie last year, DOFP could have had figures, mostly consisting of comic versions of Wolvie and Magneto.

 

[Khev]

Kids don't care that Cap's "Stealth" version resembles a short comic storyline from 2011. To kids he's a cinematic badass in a dark costume, just like Batman and Wolverine.

 

[karamazov80]

I didn't mean to imply that the comic look was attracting kids, just that it's the look they were going for, suggesting that the comic designs are affecting their decisions (which clearly is the case with Wolverine). And maybe the blue is darker than on the other Caps, but it's still a heck of a lot brighter than this:

 

[jye4ever]

Kids are not wanting action figures anymore. It's all about video games now. The only people buying up toys off Wal-Mart shelves are adults.

For the most part, this.

 

[Silrian]

That's true Kara BUT I think in this case he did keep it black to make a discrepancy between the future/old version of the franchise, and the past/new version. As I said, Magneto's past outfit was already more coloured, and there really wasn't ay other uniform this time around, as there was no reason for it.

So I feel pretty confident in it now. I don't need literal translations of the CB outfits, so if Singer steps it up in Apoc now, with a new proper x-men team, I'm looking forward to that.

Also, all three first x-men films had quite a lot of studio pressure on it, in terms of ooks as well, Kinberg said that if Singer made X1 today it'd probably be vastly different and way more akin to the comic book look of things. So having heard Kinberg say that, I have faith in in where this franchise is now, that I'll like it and be content with it.

 

[jye4ever]

Just give me a Neca 28" Hulk and 18" Wolverine and screw everything else.

 

[Silrian]

Liefeld on twitter:
"I have no idea if Cable will appear in future X-Men films. Hard to believe he won't appear in Apocalypse but I don't expect it."
"Everything changed when X-Men Apocalypse was announced... RT @actionscomics: @robertliefeld and the movie of x-force? What's new?"

 

[jye4ever]

I don't know about Apocalypse but my guess is that Avengers 2 is going to make DOFP look like a very small movie.

 

[Silrian]

Completely unconvinced by that, Whedon is half the director Singer is in cinema. Avengers looks like a TV episode with a blockbuster CGI budget compared to DoFP.

Honestly all marvel studios films feel that way to me. Even Winter SOldier, which I really like, feels like a very small film to me.

So hope Whedon and MS step it up with A2.

 

[karamazov80]

I don't know about Apocalypse but my guess is that Avengers 2 is going to make DOFP look like a very small movie.

In what sense? Scale? Or as a movie event? In terms of the former, we don't have almost anything to go on yet, so I couldn't make a guess. In terms of the latter, you're probably right. They will promote the **** out of Avengers 2, I have no doubt.

 

[pturtle]

Completely unconvinced by that, Whedon is half the director Singer is in cinema. Avengers looks like a TV episode with a blockbuster CGI budget compared to DoFP.

Honestly all marvel studios films feel that way to me. Even Winter SOldier, which I really like, feels like a very small film to me.

So hope Whedon and MS step it up with A2.

Can't agree more with this statement, Singer is a far better director. I think Whedon's head would have exploded if he had to helm DOFP.

From what I'm hearing X-Men Apocalypse is suppose to be the first real big actiony X flick. That could probably outshine A2 in terms of action, but in all honesty, I just hope Singers keeps the X-Men films character driven. I can always get my action fix from the Marvel films.


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[stshammgod]

So, do I have Bryan Singer to thank for the lingering wolverine butt shot?