Zack Snyder's Justice League

[snoop101]

New Superman cast reveal?

 

[snoop101]

Wow just realized it’s finally premiering this month

Hope it’s worth all the hype

So far HBO Max hasn’t lived up to the hype with this new campaign. First with WW84 and next with T&J the movie IMO

Well good news is that it can’t get much worse than WW84.

 

[Khev]

Yes, it's awfully specific, like what if someone doesn't shine his light in the sky, but instead they contact him some other way, can he dress like a bat then? In fact, I don't think anyone was shining the bat signal in that sequence, because Bats was secretly following the bad guy or something?

The whole scene is strange because there's no reason for Sups to look so angry and disgusted the whole time. That was their first time meeting and Sups didn't even introduce himself as Kal el or say, "I've heard of you. I thought you were a myth." Or, "I'm gonna need to see your license and registration, please." Something nice to break the ice, damn. He instead destroys the car and threatens Bats. Bats is supposed to be the angry aggressive one making the empty threats because he mistakenly fears Superman. But no, instead they both acted like pieces of ****. Sups even more that Bats.

Yep, lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He had a little evil Spock goatee.

 

[BeefEaster]

I'm pretty sure most would have been fine with supes just having a 'stache in the movie as opposed to what we actually got.

 

[abake]

Oh man... this is going around in circles, I'll go this last time and you can have the last word, because we're really not understanding each other or we're just too set in our own perspectives.

So forgive me for going bit by bit.

It?s been done in a sense that other heroes have gone through bullying and losing a parent . Nothing new .

Ah, but I'm speaking of Superman. I have not seen Superman's story told from this more (IMHO) human perspective.

And cool. He shows determination and pride . Still comes off as sad most of the time . And don?t say what I like and dislike please. I don?t know where you got that I like hyperbole from . I can say I know you like to blindly follow Snyder but I don?t .

Well, thanks for acknowledging his other emotions besides "sad".
As for what you like or dislike, if every time you discuss the subject of Snyder and his take on the DC heroes you resort to hyperbole, I think I can be forgiven for believing you actually do like hyperbole...
Your statement that I "blindly follow Snyder" is just another example. I have been critical of some of Snyder's stuff, but I do mostly defend the things I find interesting in his movies that I find belittled and mocked or misunderstood. After all, there's enough people here criticising the man and his movies!

Also he destroyed a whole freaking city. Or did you not watch the film . Of course Batman and civilians should fear him. That?s his own fault . His fighting caused a whole city to almost be destroyed . That?s his own fault . Batman terrorized the city? Huh? He marked men who were criminals for dead but he didn?t terrorize the city . What movie were u watching? He has no business to be upset. He caused all the issues and should be feared. Or is he to stupid to realize that fighting in a populated city could kill millions?

That's a critique I frankly never understood. As I have said before, and has been commented multiple times by others here and on other forums and the media, this is the first time this dude has to fight. This is the first time he faces anybody with the same powers as himself. And in a desperate situation where every single minute counts. And he's supposed to be able to master the technique of close combat against super trained soldiers? While at the same time he gets acquainted with his own powers (or did he have years of experience flying and using heat vision?)? And on top of that is so in control of everything that he can actually direct the fight to where it suits him most?
I'm sorry man, I understand the destruction is terrible, and I said so, but what you (and the people who blamed him for all the destruction in the movies, incidentally) are asking is simply not realistic. I can understand the people in the movies and even Batman, they had no way to know the circumstances and the experience or lack thereof Superman had, but that the audience doesn't understand why he's not capable of avoiding or preventing more destruction... well, it's just baffling to me.

And Clark does tell Perry that he believes Batman is terrorising the people in Gotham, and people he interviews in Gotham also say so.

I don?t know what film you saw but the dude pretty much was reckless, didn't try to solve the issue with Batman at all and cracked a smile every once in a while . Especially that creepy smile he had when Batman punched him and he got his powers back

I fully agree, he was reckless. That was why I was making a point of explaining the frustration he was coming from, especially when comparing how Batman operated and got away with it, while he was trying to do the right thing all the time and had all these mixed responses. But I also agree that it wasn't very well written in BvS.

Again Spider-Man saw his uncle Ben die infront of him , the city hates him and he is seen as unwanted . Snyders Superman didbt break the mold . Hell his whole arc is pretty much almost like Batman begins. Hell they even gave him the shaggy beard. Lol but sheesh maybe he has a reason to be sad. All the things he?s done.

Please stop acting like this Superman did something new. We literally see a hero who struggles with the world they live in and who feels like an outcast on a daily basis. Hell the ninja turtles do it. Hell frozen did it.

As I said, I'm not talking about other superheroes, I'm talking about Superman.

And no he doesn?t seem like someone who wants to inspire . Just a guy who feels like he must do it cause he?s the only one who can. Even bullying Batman to not help and breaking his car. Didn?t even give him his insurance information. That?s a good inspiration to you?




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I find that an odd conclusion to come to: "he feels he must do it because he's the only one who can". How do you get there?
And he's not "bullying Batman to not help", he's telling Batman to stop "terrorising people" (Clark's words, not mine). He's telling Batman he can't be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Which, interestingly enough, is what the Senate hearing is all about in the end. So yeah, there's a lesson for Superman there, too.

But anyway, yes, telling Batman to stop torturing people is actually a good example IMHO.

So this is me signing off from this particular discussion, it's been fun.

 

[abake]

I'm pretty sure most would have been fine with supes just having a 'stache in the movie as opposed to what we actually got.

Hell, they should have given him a beard and have done with it... after all, hair keeps "growing" for a while after you die.

 

[Khev]

Hell, they should have given him a beard and have done with it... after all, hair keeps "growing" for a while after you die.

Should have just pulled a Shazam and filmed every shot from the neck down, lol.

 

[abake]

Should have just pulled a Shazam and filmed every shot from the neck down, lol.

I wonder if they'll ever take the time to put him in Shazam? Maybe if he's in Black Adam?

 

[guyver1]

He had a little evil Spock goatee.

Wow didn’t know he had that much of a beard at that time. I think in M.I. he mostly had a mustache sans beard

No wonder the effects to cover it up looked so weird for Superman

 

[ironwez20]

Oh man... this is going around in circles, I'll go this last time and you can have the last word, because we're really not understanding each other or we're just too set in our own perspectives.

So forgive me for going bit by bit.



Ah, but I'm speaking of Superman. I have not seen Superman's story told from this more (IMHO) human perspective.



Well, thanks for acknowledging his other emotions besides "sad".
As for what you like or dislike, if every time you discuss the subject of Snyder and his take on the DC heroes you resort to hyperbole, I think I can be forgiven for believing you actually do like hyperbole...
Your statement that I "blindly follow Snyder" is just another example. I have been critical of some of Snyder's stuff, but I do mostly defend the things I find interesting in his movies that I find belittled and mocked or misunderstood. After all, there's enough people here criticising the man and his movies!



That's a critique I frankly never understood. As I have said before, and has been commented multiple times by others here and on other forums and the media, this is the first time this dude has to fight. This is the first time he faces anybody with the same powers as himself. And in a desperate situation where every single minute counts. And he's supposed to be able to master the technique of close combat against super trained soldiers? While at the same time he gets acquainted with his own powers (or did he have years of experience flying and using heat vision?)? And on top of that is so in control of everything that he can actually direct the fight to where it suits him most?
I'm sorry man, I understand the destruction is terrible, and I said so, but what you (and the people who blamed him for all the destruction in the movies, incidentally) are asking is simply not realistic. I can understand the people in the movies and even Batman, they had no way to know the circumstances and the experience or lack thereof Superman had, but that the audience doesn't understand why he's not capable of avoiding or preventing more destruction... well, it's just baffling to me.

And Clark does tell Perry that he believes Batman is terrorising the people in Gotham, and people he interviews in Gotham also say so.



I fully agree, he was reckless. That was why I was making a point of explaining the frustration he was coming from, especially when comparing how Batman operated and got away with it, while he was trying to do the right thing all the time and had all these mixed responses. But I also agree that it wasn't very well written in BvS.



As I said, I'm not talking about other superheroes, I'm talking about Superman.



I find that an odd conclusion to come to: "he feels he must do it because he's the only one who can". How do you get there?
And he's not "bullying Batman to not help", he's telling Batman to stop "terrorising people" (Clark's words, not mine). He's telling Batman he can't be Judge, Jury and Executioner. Which, interestingly enough, is what the Senate hearing is all about in the end. So yeah, there's a lesson for Superman there, too.

But anyway, yes, telling Batman to stop torturing people is actually a good example IMHO.

So this is me signing off from this particular discussion, it's been fun.

Good points

 

[guyver1]

The biggest issue I have that could ruin the Snyder cut is the story . We all know by now how the JL plot played out

I can’t really see the Snyder version being completely different in the overall plot

Sure there will be new scenes and added content, but does anyone waiting to see this really expect to see a completely different movie coming from Snyder’s version. I think overall it will flow like the Wheadon script.

So this could be a disappointment in the long run

 

[Prime Clone]

The whole scene is strange because there's no reason for Sups to look so angry and disgusted the whole time. That was their first time meeting and Sups didn't even introduce himself as Kal el or say, "I've heard of you. I thought you were a myth." Or, "I'm gonna need to see your license and registration, please." Something nice to break the ice, damn. He instead destroys the car and threatens Bats. Bats is supposed to be the angry aggressive one making the empty threats because he mistakenly fears Superman. But no, instead they both acted like pieces of ****. Sups even more that Bats.

Wasn't it established by then that Clark objected to his vigilante methods, and was obsessively chasing his story?

 

[moose]

Its no use arguing with man of steel haters they want Donner superman and nothing else . The big blue boy scout. Well they bitched and complained to the point when WB is giving them a reboot that they can all get behind.

Hope you enjoy your new superman you earned it .

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[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Wasn't it established by then that Clark objected to his vigilante methods, and was obsessively chasing his story?

 

[Prime Clone]

 

[guyver1]

Its no use arguing with man of steel haters they want Donner superman and nothing else . The big blue boy scout. Well they bitched and complained to the point when WB is giving them a reboot that they can all get behind.

Hope you enjoy your new superman you earned it .

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After watching the Donner cut of Superman II . I didn’t think it was that much better than the Lester version that was made . Just the scenes with Brando were interesting but I thought the flow was kind of weird and out of sync compared to the theatrical Lester cut.

I actually preferred the whole Paris bomb scene than Lois jumping out of window in the Donner Cut . So I didn’t think the Donner cut was the end all for Superman II

 

[moose]

After watching the Donner cut of Superman II . I didn?t think it was that much better than the Lester version that was made . Just the scenes with Brando were interesting but I thought the flow was kind of weird and out of sync compared to the theatrical Lester cut.

I actually preferred the whole Paris bomb scene than Lois jumping out of window in the Donner Cut . So I didn?t think the Donner cut was the end all for Superman II

Man of Steel is my favorite comic book movie outside of the Nolanverse.

It's got everything I wanted that was missing from superman returns namely action and keeping what I liked inner conflict . I would love to see this big blue boy scout that they crave on the big screen. I get it they grew up with superman from the cartoon . Always perfect never straying or doing anything even remotely edge perfect smile . But try doing that today and in a movie and let's see what kind of crowds comes out to watch that. I dont want to see a bumbing Clark Kent or perfect " I never lie" superman. I love that movie so much. I wished that we got a traditional sequel in man of steel 2 were he fights doomsday and dies and fights a cloned superman in superman.but I did not mind BVS it could use some clean up the only thing I hated was batman's use of weapons . When it has always been established he is anti gun.

Its shame we could have brought all that we watched in the justice league cartoons to the big screen . A darkseid invasion watch tower brainiac. All that is what I was and still looking forward to it instead we get a disjointed universe that is not connected in anyway and reboots. And now they want to make a green lantern tv show from the people who wrote Abraham Lincoln vampire hunter and arrow tv show .

This is the best dc can do crap shows like titans and other cw cheap ****. What is all the rage with Louis and Clark tv show it looks mediocre typical cw.
I stopped watching smallville after 2 season because it was getting ridiculous.

But it spawned all these other cheap tv shows .

Well I think the DCEU is finished. Its potential is gone when they could have leveraged their characters and made something really special instead it's one off movies and reboots. What a waste



And then have h

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[abake]

Wait, aren't you proving his point?

 

[jye4ever]

How come no complaints when Perry was given a dark makeover isn’t his name literally White lol