Zack Snyder's Justice League

[jye4ever]

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[Jmek]

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Warehouse scene is good yes.

TWS is not only better but the entire TWS movie is that warehouse scene on steroids.

BvS extended cut should?ve added another warehouse type scene instead Snyder gave us a fruit basket investigation what a fail lol


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Sorry old bean, but I have to disagree with you there. I have to say the The Winter Soldier is a good film indeed, but the cinematography is flat and the action scenes, on the whole, are incomprehensible. It was only half way through Civil War that the directors suddenly realized that handing the action scenes to the cameraman with Parkinson's was not the way to go. Infinity War was a massive improvement, and then they blew it with Endgame, but nobody's perfect.

This is of course only my opinion, and is no way intended to be taken as fact.

 

[abake]

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I really have to watch TWS again, it really didn't impress me at all. Not that I can remember at least... I seriously don't remember anything about that movie other than Robert Redford being in it, and Hydra having infiltrated something, but most people swear by it, so I must've missed something.

 

[ironwez20]

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I honestly thought it was just ok to.

 

[Prime Clone]

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BvS > CW > TWS



Oh, and latest from Zack:

 

[Spartan Rex]

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Did we ever get a clear answer on what caused the initial “compromised”version in the first place?
Daughters Suicide and needed family time?
Clashed with Warner execs?
Unable to secure budget for clean shaven Cavill f/x?
Over budget?
Behind schedule?

What exactly?

 

[Prime Clone]

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Daughters Suicide and needed family time?

That was the official line. The unofficial reason is WB panicked because BvS didn't crack a bill and attracted bad reviews.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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So is Snyder being brought back into the Warner/DC fold to work on upcoming projects or is Warner just throwing him and the fans a bone with this HBO one shot?

 

[Prime Clone]

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Good question. I'd like to think the former. Apparently there's new management at WB that may have realised the mistakes of the past.

Guess it depends how much they think his brand is tainted with the wider moviegoing public. And maybe with the underperformance of Whedon's JL they figure another $20m investment might get them more of their original money back.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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Ok, thanks for the catch up.

Personally I’d like to see him brought back.
The only missteps I feel he’s made have been Superman being too pessimistic and unsure, his choice for Flash (Did he even bother to audition his run?)
and the casting of Lex. If Affleck is willing to come back because of Snyder and take up the cowl that’s would be great.

Prime, is Green Lantern going to be put back in? I think he was supposed to land and talk to Alfred while he was working on the car but then switched to Superman in the Wheddon version.
Also, was the Deathstroke scene Snyder or Joss?

 

[Prime Clone]

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Sorry, can't help you there, aside from I'm pretty sure it was always Superman talking to Alfred in the Snyder version as it's one of the Snyder deleted scenes with the Zimmer score.


Maybe Snyder's original plan was GL but he changed it/saved him for Part 2? Though it makes more sense for it to be Supes due to the Bruce-Clark connection.

 

[Spartan Rex]

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I wouldn’t mind this scene in a future JLA Snyder movie:

 

[abake]

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I honestly thought it was just ok to.

Just finished watching it again (just my second time), and it's good.
I guess it's Marvel's most daring movie, what with all the talk about freedom vs keeping people hostage to their fears. Quite political. The action is good, but I really don't see how any of the fighting scenes are supposed to be better than the BvS warehouse scene. And damn, these guys are ruthless... they take "take no prisoners" to another level! How many Hydra agents ("we have to assume people on the Helicarriers are Hydra", were the Captain's words?) were on those ships? Tens of thousands?

So after TWS, should I go for AOU? That's the next in line chronologically, right?

Back to the Snydercut, I can't wait to finally see it.

 

[Bardoon]

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Just finished watching it again (just my second time), and it's good.
I guess it's Marvel's most daring movie, what with all the talk about freedom vs keeping people hostage to their fears. Quite political. The action is good, but I really don't see how any of the fighting scenes are supposed to be better than the BvS warehouse scene. And damn, these guys are ruthless... they take "take no prisoners" to another level! How many Hydra agents ("we have to assume people on the Helicarriers are Hydra", were the Captain's words?) were on those ships? Tens of thousands?

So after TWS, should I go for AOU? That's the next in line chronologically, right?

Back to the Snydercut, I can't wait to finally see it.

Some folks say Guardians of the Galaxy 1 & 2 take place right after "The Winter Soldier" but if you're just sticking with the Earth stuff then yes, AOU would be next followed by Ant-man and then Civil War.

 

[Sachiel]

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The choreography in TWS was good. The editing is trash.

 

[Bardoon]

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That was the official line. The unofficial reason is WB panicked because BvS didn't crack a bill and attracted bad reviews.

There's also the strong story that Geoff Johns (as the DCEU "chief" at the time) was working behind-the-scenes to boot Snyder out and pull Joss Whedon in after they had meetings with Whedon about future DCEU projects. Johns was never a fan of Snyder. Johns was apparently stoking the fires with WB Execs and he never liked Snyder's vision and storylines for the characters. Reportedly, they sneakily hired Whedon to do changes to the film while Snyder was working on post-production. After Snyder's daughter passed, Snyder wanted to keep working, but Johns, WB, and their constant meddling and the circumstances surrounding his daughter left him to leave.

It's a pretty interesting read:

https://theculturednerd.org/2020/04/the-troublesome-history-zack-snyder-geoff-johns-and-the-fall-of-the-dceu/

One of the biggest reasons Snyder is back and being allowed to do this cut is because the man has been a trooper and has been a stand-up guy despite royally being screwed over. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Snyder has said NOTHING bad about Johns, Whedon, WB, etc. after he was screwed over. His cast also loved him.

Rumor is that Johns' meddling also contributed to Affleck leaving "The Batman".

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

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BvS > CW > TWS



Oh, and latest from Zack:

Batman prison **** scene confirmed!

 

[Spartan Rex]

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There's also the strong story that Geoff Johns (as the DCEU "chief" at the time) was working behind-the-scenes to boot Snyder out and pull Joss Whedon in after they had meetings with Whedon about future DCEU projects. Johns was never a fan of Snyder. Johns was apparently stoking the fires with WB Execs and he never liked Snyder's vision and storylines for the characters. Reportedly, they sneakily hired Whedon to do changes to the film while Snyder was working on post-production. After Snyder's daughter passed, Snyder wanted to keep working, but Johns, WB, and their constant meddling and the circumstances surrounding his daughter left him

It's a pretty interesting read:

https://theculturednerd.org/2020/04...-snyder-geoff-johns-and-the-fall-of-the-dceu/

One of the biggest reasons Snyder is back and being allowed to do this cut is because the man has been a trooper and has been a stand-up guy despite royally being screwed over. Correct me if I'm wrong, but Snyder has said NOTHING bad about Johns, Whedon, WB, etc. after he was screwed over. His cast also loved him.

Rumor is that Johns' meddling also contributed to Affleck leaving "The Batman".

Is Johns still at the studio?

 

[Captain Clown]

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Is Johns still at the studio?

His biggest responsibility now is writing for Stargirl, so take that as you may.

A few pages back someone posted that he was apparently blacklisted from Hollywood after what happened. Not sure if that's real, but it would explain a lot.

 

[abake]

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Some folks say Guardians of the Galaxy 1 & 2 take place right after "The Winter Soldier" but if you're just sticking with the Earth stuff then yes, AOU would be next followed by Ant-man and then Civil War.

Cool, I guess I?ll go for AOU then.
Also, what is it with exposition in TWS?! Zola really liked talking about his plans, huh? And he took his own demise rather lightly...

Back to Snydercut, yeah, the man truly has class: not a single bad word about anybody. All I?ve read is him saying there?s not much of his movie in what hit theaters.


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