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Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

While I’m looking forward to the Snyder Cut probably more than any other movie/streaming show in 2021, at this point I don’t know how it’s going to live up to all the expectations. The rumor mill surround this has been running on overtime—Green Lantern, Robin and even Supergirl have supposedly been rumored to appear; Joker is supposedly going to get a new design; and reportedly sequels and Snyderverse spin-offs are already being discussed. There is a ton riding on it. When ATT/Warner cut their $250 million deal with Abrams the speculation was that he was going to take over their DC cinematic universe. So right now I think the honchos are all sitting on the sidelines to see how this is received by the fans and critics. Hopefully it’s a great movie and a huge success.
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

While I’m looking forward to the Snyder Cut probably more than any other movie/streaming show in 2021, at this point I don’t know how it’s going to live up to all the expectations.

Just have the expectation that it will be better than the Josstice League and you should be good.
 
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I really hope they move away from Snyder and his ? vision ? after this. I hope the batman makes a billion so the idiots at WB will begin scrambling what to do
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I really hope they move away from Snyder and his ? vision ? after this. I hope the batman makes a billion so the idiots at WB will begin scrambling what to do

You know that Warner can do both visions right?
Matt reeves Batman is problably gonna be a trilogy
Snyder will be this one shot in HBO Max, if it succeds than i bet warner will continue with his vision at least until the reboot, lets not forget that his vision is everything since Man of Steel until the recent WW84
 
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It?s the universe he created but it?s not his style. See unlike marvel they don?t tell Snyder about the other movies and he has no say in WW or aquaman. Or no say in suicide squad. That?s why he?s changing the joker look and do much else . They tell him to make a movie and then make movies centered around the crap he created . That?s why it?s so disjointed. He?s not the Kevin fiege of DC he?s just the guy they got cause he made a couple of decent to crap movies for them so he apparently was there go to guy. He has no input on anything. Maybe they?ll consult him on minor things but he has nothing to do with the good dc films like Wonder Woman or Aquaman. They just set it in his crappy world
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

You know that Warner can do both visions right?
Matt reeves Batman is problably gonna be a trilogy
Snyder will be this one shot in HBO Max, if it succeds than i bet warner will continue with his vision at least until the reboot, lets not forget that his vision is everything since Man of Steel until the recent WW84

Aquaman and Shazam seem to have barely any influence from Snyder. While he might have been a producer, that appears to be more of a paycheck then direct influence.

Wonderwoman he might have had more a role, because the last 20 minutes of that movie is mediocre garbage, and looks very Snyderish.

It?s the universe he created but it?s not his style. See unlike marvel they don?t tell Snyder about the other movies and he has no say in WW or aquaman. Or no say in suicide squad. That?s why he?s changing the joker look and do much else . They tell him to make a movie and then make movies centered around the crap he created . That?s why it?s so disjointed. He?s not the Kevin fiege of DC he?s just the guy they got cause he made a couple of decent to crap movies for them so he apparently was there go to guy. He has no input on anything. Maybe they?ll consult him on minor things but he has nothing to do with the good dc films like Wonder Woman or Aquaman. They just set it in his crappy world

Fully agree. He noted in an old interview, I think it was right before suicide squad, that he had only minor input in that movie. My thoughts are he might make a few suggestions, but is left out of the decisions for most of these movies he doesn't direct.
 
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It’s interesting to see comments in favor of Aquaman or Shazam over the other current DC movies. I didn’t think BvS, JL or SS were superb films or anything but I enjoyed watching them and enjoy rewatching them. Aquaman and Shazam were one and done movies for me with Aquaman being almost unwatchable the first go around. I liked JM’s costume design though.
 
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It’s interesting to see comments in favor of Aquaman or Shazam over the other current DC movies. I didn’t think BvS, JL or SS were superb films or anything but I enjoyed watching them and enjoy rewatching them. Aquaman and Shazam were one and done movies for me with Aquaman being almost unwatchable the first go around. I liked JM’s costume design though.

Nothing wrong with that.

To be honest, I don't rewatch most of the DC movies. They just aren't interesting. If I want to watch good DC, I put on Young Justice or Justice League Unlimited. I recently put on Batman 89, and was surprised how much of it stood up.

I can see why BvS and SS appeal to people. I rewatch Gods of Egypt and Battlefield earth sometimes. Are they good movies? No. Are they so bad that they provide me entertainment value? yes.

BvS, even the directing and editing, at times is baffling and downright terrible. Establishment shots, logical cuts, logic...anything....these things are sometimes cast to the wind.

But if somebody likes BvS or Battlefield Earth, more power to them.
 
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I’m of the same mind. Everybody likes what they like. There are some comparisons and rankings that really baffle me sometimes but it’s all personal taste.

There’s just a few DC films that I would consider “good DC” like I would consider most marvel movies as “good marvel” and that’s 70’s SUPERMAN, 89 Batman and Man of Steel. Wonder Woman almost makes the grade. And I’m a DC man. lol!

I’ve never seen Young Justice or Justice League though.
 
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If we really want to get technical.

Marvel/mcu is Nintendo

And DC is sega.

One was bigger than the other and then it lost its footing and is now trailing behind its competitors and comes out with decent to hood games every once in a while . I don?t know who in DC qualifies as sonic. Probably Superman since he struggles to make a product everyone loves but is still loved.
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

It?s the universe he created but it?s not his style. See unlike marvel they don?t tell Snyder about the other movies and he has no say in WW or aquaman. Or no say in suicide squad. That?s why he?s changing the joker look and do much else . They tell him to make a movie and then make movies centered around the crap he created . That?s why it?s so disjointed. He?s not the Kevin fiege of DC he?s just the guy they got cause he made a couple of decent to crap movies for them so he apparently was there go to guy. He has no input on anything. Maybe they?ll consult him on minor things but he has nothing to do with the good dc films like Wonder Woman or Aquaman. They just set it in his crappy world

Sheesh

Savage lol
 
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I’ve never seen Young Justice or Justice League though.

I strongly recommend those shows, along with the 90s Batman, the Animated series. Although animated, they offer more adult themes and complexity most of the DC movies dare not venture into.

One was bigger than the other and then it lost its footing and is now trailing behind its competitors and comes out with decent to hood games every once in a while . I don?t know who in DC qualifies as sonic. Probably Superman since he struggles to make a product everyone loves but is still loved.

Superman worked with Reeves because he was a good and idealistic hero. Superman Returns didn't really offer anything new, or offer a compelling villain.

Snyder's Superman isn't really Superman. He doesn't really want to be a hero. He does a few heroic things, but he also seems to have contempt for humanity. In BvS they build a statue to him, even though he helped destroy their city and does things that make you question his motives. BvS there isn't really a big differerence between the somewhat sad, depressed, ultra violent vigilante (superman), and the depressed, angry, ultra violent vigilante (Batman.)

What they should have done have done in BvS is contrast the two. Make Superman all about helping people, redeeming himself. Helping to repair metropolis after he killed thousands fighting Zod. Restraining his power.

Batman then would be a good antithesis. His dark violence vs Superman's gentle brightness.

Honestly what we needed was a movie where Brainiac or something invades earth. Maybe have Batman show up to help since he is an established character. Make a compelling villain, like they did with 89 villain and the dark night.

MCU is just infinity better. They INVESTED in their product. They have a vision. They let things develop over several movies. They are not afraid to be funny. They are not afraid to be dark, they killed half the universe in a movie, which is bold for a Disney product.
 
Re: Zack Snyder's Justice League coming in 2021

I strongly recommend those shows, along with the 90s Batman, the Animated series. Although animated, they offer more adult themes and complexity most of the DC movies dare not venture into.



Superman worked with Reeves because he was a good and idealistic hero. Superman Returns didn't really offer anything new, or offer a compelling villain.

Snyder's Superman isn't really Superman. He doesn't really want to be a hero. He does a few heroic things, but he also seems to have contempt for humanity. In BvS they build a statue to him, even though he helped destroy their city and does things that make you question his motives. BvS there isn't really a big differerence between the somewhat sad, depressed, ultra violent vigilante (superman), and the depressed, angry, ultra violent vigilante (Batman.)

What they should have done have done in BvS is contrast the two. Make Superman all about helping people, redeeming himself. Helping to repair metropolis after he killed thousands fighting Zod. Restraining his power.

Batman then would be a good antithesis. His dark violence vs Superman's gentle brightness.

Honestly what we needed was a movie where Brainiac or something invades earth. Maybe have Batman show up to help since he is an established character. Make a compelling villain, like they did with 89 villain and the dark night.

MCU is just infinity better. They INVESTED in their product. They have a vision. They let things develop over several movies. They are not afraid to be funny. They are not afraid to be dark, they killed half the universe in a movie, which is bold for a Disney product.

And thats sad. Cause DC has SOOO many good characters and stories that are just as good if not better than marvel but what do they want to do? Recycle TDKR all the damn time and death of superman? A comic that shocked the world cause it had so much build up and was the first time a A list superhero died. Come one. I didn't want MArvel to succeed once upon a time ago. The universe they had when the MCU started was broken and just didn't feel whole, now that they have 99 percent of there characters back they are unstoppable. DC had a huge head start. They always do but they make the dumbest decisions imaginable.
 
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Sheesh

Savage lol

Lol when DC has such bangers like Joker 2019 and animated shows and WW and Aquaman you just can't help but be irritated by the squandered potientail
 
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It's almost impossible not to make Superman boring for a modern audience. He can't fight anyone realistically because people complain about the destruction if he does have cool fights. If he just flies around and picks up stuff like in the old films or Superman Returns, most people call it boring, and I agree it's super boring. He also can't kill anyone or anything or else it's also a problem. He also can't have personal problems or any conflict or else he's emo or nOT SuPeRmaN! He's too holy of a character, so I think it's best to keep Superman in the Justice Leauge movies in a reduced role like Hulk in the MCU, where he just smiles, do some cool stuff and that's it. Anything deeper than that and people have a problem with Superman. :lol
 
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