Zack Snyder's Rebel Moon

[Khev]

 

[Khev]

Then the bad guys gang up on Kora.

Another boy's robotic voice: "I wouldn't do that if I were you."

Announcer: Now it's the droid to the rescue!

 

[Wor-Gar]

BANG!

Sad boy: Hey! You blew my rapey coronel's head clean off!

Announcer: That's right, Rapey Coronel comes with removable head!

 

[The Buffinator]

OK, I came across the trailer for RM Part 2. It ends with Ed Skrein's and Sofia Boutella's characters meeting in what looks like a parlay, and Skrein asks "What are we hoping to accomplish here?" She replies "Same thing as the last time we met - to kill you". I also came across an EW article where Snyder explains why he decided to resurrect Skrein's character:

For Snyder, it was logical to carry over the same main villain from the first half of Rebel Moon to the second, citing “the mechanics of having the Dreadnought being on the edge of the Motherworld’s domain. That would mean they would have to go all the way back and get another guy.”

Logical??? WTF?? This is a universe that HE created, and his reason for resurrecting a villain is that it would take the ship too long to go all the way back to its home planet to get another captain? The Imperium couldn't, oh I don't know, give his 2nd in command a field promotion, or reassign their next best captain from a closer ship and have him rendez-vous with the Dreadnaught? I'm assuming there's more than one of those things out there, or is that thing Zack's Death Star?

More from that same article:

Even when Rebel Moon was structured as a single movie, before the Snyders decided to split it in two, the director says there still would have been a Kora/Noble showdown at the halfway point before he came back for the ultimate climax. “It’s a prize fight concept,” Snyder says. “There will be a rematch!”

I guess this is an example of the deep meaning in Snyder's work that Alatar has been trying to convey to us.

 

[Khev]

Well if he's basing this on "prize fight" drama then she should have lost the first fight. As we saw from the ST a rematch isn't as interesting when the hero wins right from the get go. For all of its faults even TDKR understood this.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Oh, I get it now. It's a "prize fight" allegory. Badass.

How much do you bench?

 

[The Buffinator]

Well if he's basing this on "prize fight" drama then she should have lost the first fight. As we saw from the ST a rematch isn't as interesting when the hero wins right from the get go. For all of its faults even TDKR understood this.

Maybe Noble the Nazi cosplayer is actually the good guy in this? Talk about subverting expectations lol...

 

[wormlander]

So you are ok with blanket accusations? Cause that is what you are doing.

You don’t need to understand why some people do what they do. Going after them the way you have isn’t going to help you understand any better. If you truly wanted to “understand” you would be approaching this totally different then you have.

Guys, guys... Can't we all just agree to stop accusing those blankets and get along?

 

[Dave_W]

Off topic...the irony of that line nice one George.

 

[Khev]

Anakin: "Okay so welcome to the club?"

 

[jaztermareal]

I'd love to see a vintage Kenner style Rebel Moon action figure commercial with two kids having their bad guy figures gang up on the peasant girl figure to...you know, lol.

Which just shows how silly it was to do a "PG-13" version at all with that kind of material still in the movie.

 

[a-dev]

I love that you don't need to have seen the movie for these to be hilarious

 

[Wor-Gar]

I love those pitch meetings.

 

[The Buffinator]

That was infinitely more enjoyable than the movie lol.

 

[ironwez20]

Lol
That was way more entertaining then the movie

 

[Khev]

"Lets purposefully release a non-Snyder Cut version so we can milk it later."

 

[Alatar]

OK, I came across the trailer for RM Part 2. It ends with Ed Skrein's and Sofia Boutella's characters meeting in what looks like a parlay, and Skrein asks "What are we hoping to accomplish here?" She replies "Same thing as the last time we met - to kill you". I also came across an EW article where Snyder explains why he decided to resurrect Skrein's character:

For Snyder, it was logical to carry over the same main villain from the first half of Rebel Moon to the second, citing “the mechanics of having the Dreadnought being on the edge of the Motherworld’s domain. That would mean they would have to go all the way back and get another guy.”

Logical??? WTF?? This is a universe that HE created, and his reason for resurrecting a villain is that it would take the ship too long to go all the way back to its home planet to get another captain? The Imperium couldn't, oh I don't know, give his 2nd in command a field promotion, or reassign their next best captain from a closer ship and have him rendez-vous with the Dreadnaught? I'm assuming there's more than one of those things out there, or is that thing Zack's Death Star?

More from that same article:

Even when Rebel Moon was structured as a single movie, before the Snyders decided to split it in two, the director says there still would have been a Kora/Noble showdown at the halfway point before he came back for the ultimate climax. “It’s a prize fight concept,” Snyder says. “There will be a rematch!”

I guess this is an example of the deep meaning in Snyder's work that Alatar has been trying to convey to us.

OK, I came across the trailer for RM Part 2. It ends with Ed Skrein's and Sofia Boutella's characters meeting in what looks like a parlay, and Skrein asks "What are we hoping to accomplish here?" She replies "Same thing as the last time we met - to kill you". I also came across an EW article where Snyder explains why he decided to resurrect Skrein's character:

For Snyder, it was logical to carry over the same main villain from the first half of Rebel Moon to the second, citing “the mechanics of having the Dreadnought being on the edge of the Motherworld’s domain. That would mean they would have to go all the way back and get another guy.”

Logical??? WTF?? This is a universe that HE created, and his reason for resurrecting a villain is that it would take the ship too long to go all the way back to its home planet to get another captain? The Imperium couldn't, oh I don't know, give his 2nd in command a field promotion, or reassign their next best captain from a closer ship and have him rendez-vous with the Dreadnaught? I'm assuming there's more than one of those things out there, or is that thing Zack's Death Star?

More from that same article:

Even when Rebel Moon was structured as a single movie, before the Snyders decided to split it in two, the director says there still would have been a Kora/Noble showdown at the halfway point before he came back for the ultimate climax. “It’s a prize fight concept,” Snyder says. “There will be a rematch!”

I guess this is an example of the deep meaning in Snyder's work that Alatar has been trying to convey to us.

Haha, there’s always deeper meanings to inspect in any artwork but that’s a whole other conversation. That’s getting into the domain of art appreciation and how that all theoretically works, kind of by definition.

Nothing I can do if others see Noble’s death-resurrection as lame, but I guess I can explain why I personally kind of dig it. Very briefly though, I only have a few minutes to weigh in.

As a lore buff, for me it’s more about a view we’re given onto the technology of the Imperium with the neural link and that crazy astral plane where Balisarius and Noble interact in their mental forms. Feels rather Matrix-y. (I’ve already explained that Snyder’s project with Rebel Moon of assembling a curation of deeply personally meaningful homages is fine with me, reasons why I’m good with that. I also understand that others will disagree and get why. This is intended to be polarizing, I think.)

From what I gather from the novelization, the hardware in Noble’s skull is only for the elite caste in the Imperium. As Balisarius’ protege and heir Kora will undoubtedly have had that installed in her brain as well. The technology can evidently stimulate the brain to repair significant physical damage to the body at the cellular level. Can they even cheat death indefinitely with it? I’m curious to learn more. But I have to leave it there for now.

 

[The Buffinator]

Nothing I can do if others see Noble’s death-resurrection as lame, but I guess I can explain why I personally kind of dig it. Very briefly though, I only have a few minutes to weigh in.

As a lore buff, for me it’s more about a view we’re given onto the technology of the Imperium with the neural link and that crazy astral plane where Balisarius and Noble interact in their mental forms. Feels rather Matrix-y. (I’ve already explained that Snyder’s project with Rebel Moon of assembling a curation of deeply personally meaningful homages is fine with me, reasons why I’m good with that. I also understand that others will disagree and get why. This is intended to be polarizing, I think.)

From what I gather from the novelization, the hardware in Noble’s skull is only for the elite caste in the Imperium. As Balisarius’ protege and heir Kora will undoubtedly have had that installed in her brain as well. The technology can evidently stimulate the brain to repair significant physical damage to the body at the cellular level. Can they even cheat death indefinitely with it? I’m curious to learn more. But I have to leave it there for now.

It's not that the concept of and mechanism for Noble's resurrection were lame but rather the overall execution. Up until that point Snyder didn't give us any indication that the Imperium'e elite had any special abilities (beyond combat training) or had any special tech implants. Noble's indulgences with his pet squid came across as nothing more than a fetish, so without proper foreshadowing it does indeed come across as a cheat and rather lame that he's miraculously resuscitated. Perhaps the lack of foreshadowing is due to the decision to split the movie in two and then further truncate Part 1 with this PG-13 cut? Only time will tell but when you have to refer to the novelization for the answer it's evident that Zack didn't do a good job of presenting it on screen in this version. This project seems it would have been better as a limited series rather than 2 feature films, but perhaps ZS's auteur ego wouldn't allow him to admit that.

p.s. - Speaking of resurrections, I could have sworn I also saw Ray Fisher's character make a brief appearance in the Part 2 trailer. A flashback or misdirect I hope?

 

[Entropy]

Making this seems as pathetic as watching it

 

[T8OO]

Making this seems as pathetic as watching it

People who have watched it are pathetic?

I remember that time me and a group of people had a laugh doing something. What a bunch of absolute losers we were.