Zack Snyder's SUCKER PUNCH

[grphyx1]

The visual references really reminded me of some of my acid trips, where real world cues would pop up to let me know that I was still grounded. Like the dragon lighter being the dragon in her mind. Like the old Prince song...There's Joy in Repetition...each one sparks some kinda familiarity

 

[Kuzeh]

It's funny how a movie with low ratings and a lot of naysayers gets all this discussion, yet and amazing movie like Rango isn't being discussed at all...

For the record, I loved them both for different reasons...

 

[Devil_666]

Does anyone get raped in Rango?

 

[Timinator]

Does anyone get raped in Rango?

Ned Beatty does one of the voices. Does that count?

 

[IrishJedi]

Ned Beatty does one of the voices. Does that count?

 

[Biojex]

Ned Beatty does one of the voices. Does that count?

Oh no, we'd have to count Toy Story 3 as well.

 

[Shatterer of Dreams]

......

 

[The ill Jedi]

I think some are giving way to much thought to this movie

 

[Jen]

Well personally - if I was a film maker and knew that my movie was as thought provoking as this - even if they were way off base - I would think I did a good job. That's the sign of a successful film maker (even if the movie doesn't make big bank at the BO) - he got his audience to think about it and talk about it at length. Much better than if it was simply forgotten 2 hours later.

And what makes this forum great is that we all are individuals - we interpret things differently. There is no need for name calling or saying people are idiots if they are interpreting something different than you are or what Snyder intended. That is what is so great about art - we all may be looking at the same thing - yet see it differently. So please - let's leave the name calling out of the discussions.

 

[KBA]

Sucker Punch hits like a lobotomized girl. 5/10.

 

[IrishJedi]

And what makes this forum great is that we all are individuals - we interpret things differently. There is no need for name calling or saying people are idiots if they are interpreting something different than you are or what Snyder intended. That is what is so great about art - we all may be looking at the same thing - yet see it differently. So please - let's leave the name calling out of the discussions.

Interpreting and criticizing the work itself is one thing. That's absolutely fine. It's subjective and to each his/her own. But attacking the filmmaker personally and making presumptuous character judgments about him as a person and his intentions... that is pure B.S. Period. And people should be called out on such petty, bottom-dwelling stuff.

Notice that I haven't had a single issue with people skewering the flick. I've recusing myself from that discussion. The problem is some people can't contain the discourse to the movie itself.

 

[Jen]

Interpreting and criticizing the work itself is one thing. That's absolutely fine. It's subjective and to each his/her own. But attacking the filmmaker personally and making presumptuous character judgments about him as a person and his intentions... that is pure B.S. Period. And people should be called out on such petty, bottom-dwelling stuff.

Notice that I haven't had a single issue with people skewering the flick. I've recusing myself from that discussion. The problem is some people can't contain the discourse to the movie itself.

I agree that it is not fair to judge Snyder's character based on his films as none of us know him personally. I'm referring more to the people going after others that may be seeing more into the film than what others believe was intended.

 

[IrishJedi]

I agree that it is not fair to judge Snyder's character based on his films as none of us know him personally. I'm referring more to the people going after others that may be seeing more into the film than what others believe was intended.

Well, sure... people can and should see and interpret whatever they want from any kind of art. That's actually the best thing about it, like you said. The problem is when people assume their interpretation is gospel or even remotely what the filmmaker intended. And some people in this thread are so far off the boat they're floating aimlessly in the deep sea.

 

[Khev]

But attacking the filmmaker personally and making presumptuous character judgments about him as a person and his intentions... that is pure B.S.

Has Zack ever lurked here?

 

[ironwez20]

Dont really see the whole hate thing with this movie. yea it was weird and at time's confusing but it had a lot of symbolism in it and it made you think.

Thatbaby doll girl cant shoot to save her life tho. Also the where is my mind song at the begining was a good touch to the atmosphere.

it was ok.

 

[Jen]

Well, sure... people can and should see and interpret whatever they want from any kind of art. That's actually the best thing about it, like you said. The problem is when people assume their interpretation is gospel or even remotely what the filmmaker intended. And some people in this thread are so far off the boat they're floating aimlessly in the deep sea.

But they are talking about it - even if their interpretation is different than what Zach intended. That's more than what a lot of films get these days. And because very little of the film is based in the reality - it leaves it open for a lot of people to interpret what they feel the fantasy sequences meant in relation to the real world. If Zach had made this more cut and dry and showed us more of what was really going on with the girls in the asylum, there wouldn't be so much speculation...we would know exactly what he intended and there probably wouldn't be so much discussion. I think Zach is a smart man and knew exactly what he was doing. He created something that people are talking about - whether they loved it, hated it or felt anything in between. For that I say, good job Mr. Snyder.

 

[devilof76]

Thatbaby doll girl cant shoot to save her life tho. .

Have you ever fired a .45?

 

[wofford29]

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[Maglor]

Still having trouble deciding if I want to see this...


I've read a few reviews that comment on the irony of a girl who wants to avoid sexual exploitation, but enters a world where she is exploited for the fetishes of the viewer.

...this tricked up female empowerment tale undercuts itself with its fetishized slutty schoolgirls and its repetitious steampunk anime aesthetic.

https://www.reelingreviews.com/suckerpunch.htm#Laura



I thought this review was particularly insightful:

Sucker Punch centers on an endangered, institutionalized girl who escapes into a fantasyland in order to retreat from the horrors around her. The problem is, it's not really her fantasy she escapes to - it's that of writer-director Zack Snyder.

Snyder is a stylist who can do something special when given rich material (Watchmen), but here he's working with a questionable original screenplay that he wrote with Steve Shibuya. The line between liberating grrl power and exploitation can be a blurry one, but not in this case. Sucker Punch is a faux-feminist piece of trash.

The heroine, Baby Doll, is a bleach-blond, pig-tailed imp played with a pliable blankness by Emily Browning (think early Britney Spears, but without the personality). She escapes assault by her stepfather only to be thrown into a mental institution, where similar defilement awaits. On the eve of a lobotomy, she drifts off into an imagined reality, where she and a handful of other inmates alternately rehearse for a sketchy dance revue and battle against fire-breathing dragons and futuristic robots. Altogether, it's something like a video-game tie-in to Burlesque.

These sequences are occasionally intriguing - I liked how the evil soldiers in the World War II scenario are powered by gears and steam - but they also reveal the movie's true heart. Would a girl surrounded by sexual predators seek refuge in a daydream set in a brothel? Or imagine sword fights with samurai warriors while wearing a short skirt? This isn't the imagination of a young girl; it's the fantasy of a 14-year-old boy steeped in kung fu, "Call of Duty" and online porn.

In its elements and its attitude, Sucker Punch is going for a Kill Bill aesthetic. Yet the movie that came into my mind was 2009's Precious, another tale of an abused girl who seeks comfort in daydreams. The difference? Precious was a galvanizing exercise in real-world despair. Sucker Punch is a fantasy within a fantasy within a fantasy, each a bit ickier than the one before.

Thoughts?












And I thought this was funny:

It’s kinda like a poor-man’s “Inception,” with much more cleavage and plot holes.

https://www2.richmond.com/entertainment/screen-scene/2011/mar/28/sucker-punch-review-ar-933460/

 

[devilof76]

I'm done having thoughts on that crap.