1/4 Hot Toys - QS005 - Avengers: AoU - Iron Man Mark 43 Collectible Figure

[Dino_Ranger_White]

We both win. Lol

I do lov how everyone's going gaga over this and how much better it is then 1/6 and how they screwed the 1/6 up. Especially in things like paint. It's the same paint. Lol done by the same people. At the same factory. The proportions thing seems a bit silly to. Of course a bigger figure will look more like the 1/1. I have not gotten mine yet...but I have a neat tool called a proportional caliper..ill take some pics when I get the 1/4 in. The caliper will show how the scale is probably pretty dead on.

I agree with everything here, the 1/6 Mark XLIII is one of the best 1/6 scale Iron Man figures they have made.
I don't see any "screw ups" with that one at all.

 

[Motuxmen]

Thanks man.

The 43 1/6 is a superbly done figure. It's just a smaller scale so to the eye it's going to look more toy like. But the dimensions, when scaled up, will be nearly identical (I'm sure) to the 1/4...as they scale up nearly exactly to the 1/1 suits.

That's not to take anything away from this 1/4. It's stunning. The HS is by far the best RDJ. I love all the neat little extras they added to this one. But that's becuase of the scale. It gives more room. They could do more without the massive hassle...like the lights in the legs/calves.

 

[Dino_Ranger_White]

No problem

The 1/6 one looks so great with the rest of the Avengers figures… it's hard to see how anyone can complain about him.
I fell for this armor and it has become the definitive one for me, that's why it was an instant purchase.

This is definitely getting displayed with the Tony portrait. It is too amazing not to have on the figure.
I like having the smaller one to display with the helmet on and this one without it.

That is the best part about a 1/4 scale figure like this. All the details that they can pack in there and not make it look
like it is overkill. It just makes for a perfect stand-alone piece to display and have everyone stare at in awe, lol.

Money shot, right here…

 

[kiwiatlarge]

My big dilemna would be I always show head sculpts, but he'd be the sort of figure you really want on the offensive with weapons exposed, lol..

 

[c-ro]

We both win. Lol

I do lov how everyone's going gaga over this and how much better it is then 1/6 and how they screwed the 1/6 up. Especially in things like paint. It's the same paint. Lol done by the same people. At the same factory. The proportions thing seems a bit silly to. Of course a bigger figure will look more like the 1/1. I have not gotten mine yet...but I have a neat tool called a proportional caliper..ill take some pics when I get the 1/4 in. The caliper will show how the scale is probably pretty dead on.

Disagree completely. Look at the comparison pics on page 175. Neither the paintjob, nor the the proportions are the same (look at the shoulder pads of the two different scales)...

 

[Dino_Ranger_White]

Kind of an unfair comparison. It is a different scale, and they obviously changed some things when exploring the 1/4 scale figure.

As far as the paint job is concerned, hard to tell from those pics. I will have to see them both in hand to pass any kind of judgment.

 

[rocbolt]

The 1/6 is top notch as far as articulation and features goes, but I think the diecast does blunt the detail a bit visually when compared to the rest of 1/6 that are all plastic. Its a give and take as far as that is concerned. The 1/4 is straight out of the film from most angles.

 

[Free]

Kind of an unfair comparison. It is a different scale, and they obviously changed some things when exploring the 1/4 scale figure.

As far as the paint job is concerned, hard to tell from those pics. I will have to see them both in hand to pass any kind of judgment.

I agree with that. It's not an apples to apples comparison. I will say that the shoulder joint looks much improved on the 1/4. It always bugged me seeing the super-exposed shoulder joint, that big grey ball for everyone to see, which in my eyes somewhat ruined the illusion of a person being in the suit. They may very well measure out to be the same proportion as far as width, but from an engineering standpoint the shoulder joint looks much improved (visually) on the 1/4 compared to the 1/6 and it doesn't look like it's hurting for more range of motion based on pictures.

 

[Hologram AI]

Kind of an unfair comparison. It is a different scale, and they obviously changed some things when exploring the 1/4 scale figure.

As far as the paint job is concerned, hard to tell from those pics. I will have to see them both in hand to pass any kind of judgment.

Eh I wouldn't really say it's unfair. The 1/4 version is better than the 1/6 overall. There's no need to pull out a ruler from a desk or run some experiments to see which one has what paint. It's a bigger scale and it gives them the breathing room to make it more "accurate".

Heck I have the 1/6 version displayed right now in my detolf. The 1/6 version is a great figure but seeing the exact same suit done with the precision that people wanted done on the 1/6, leaves people wanting that on the smaller scale version. If Hot Toys did a 2.0 1/6 version taking what they did on the 1/4, people would be all over it, myself included.

The 1/4 version just looks like a 1/1 on almost every shot. The 1/6 version doesn't in comparison.

The exact same things being said in this thread was said for the 1/4 TDK Batman figure. Better cowl? Check. Better shoulder armor plating? Check. Better likeness in the eye sculpt? Check. More accurate overall? Check.

The 1/6 version is slimmer overall. Helmet is better on the 1/4, torso is slimmer in diameter on the 1/6, thigh area is slimmer and the shoulder armor alignment also reaches outward away from the body more on the 1/6 when in neutral pose due to the construction of the shoulder plating joint. Even the faceplate has the correct eye slit size on the 1/4 version.

I'm going to be owning both and I see no problem with people pointing out the difference because it's only natural for it to be said. They're the same suit done in two different scale with them both looking very distinct from one another. But with the 1/4 being finished better it leaves people to say that it is. A lot of these shots for the 1/4 version look like they're pulled straight out from the movie or photographed on a 1/1 suit.

Nobody is downplaying the 1/6. It's just pale when compared between the two. I'm pretty sure most members here have the 1/6.

 

[c-ro]

Kind of an unfair comparison. It is a different scale, and they obviously changed some things when exploring the 1/4 scale figure.

As far as the paint job is concerned, hard to tell from those pics. I will have to see them both in hand to pass any kind of judgment.

Huh, wait, what?! It doesn't matter, if the comparison is fair or not. I have just reference to the statement of motuxmen, who says both looks the same. And that isn't true. That's all I'm sayin'.

Chris

 

[Motuxmen]

Disagree completely. Look at the comparison pics on page 175. Neither the paintjob, nor the the proportions are the same (look at the shoulder pads of the two different scales)...

I've se n the pictures.

Are you referring to the weathering? Or the color? Which part? The paint is the exact same paint. From the exact same factory. Through the exact same machines. Applied by the same people.

As for the shoulders...they may be different. Hard to tell for sure till I have it in hand. Doesn't mean the "proportions" are off though. They scale the iron man suit from digital files provided by marvel. They then tweak it in places to get it to actually move in the real world. Without having QC issues and paint rubs and broken joints..as much as possible. All things the digital suit does not need to worry about. Any changes from the on screen suit are done strictly for those purposes. (Not referring to likeness and HS as that's a different matter. This is just the suit). The 1/6 mk43 was started and designed with much earlier files and references. The 1/4 had the benifit of later changes and a fuller flesh out of the digital files. So if there are changes its becuase of those things. Not becuase the proportions are off.

And I'll post the picture you referenced. To make your point that the paint is so different. The only difference is the sheen, from the top coat. And though most people will like the duller 1/4 the 1/6 is actually more representative of the intended look on screen. It's supposed to be a gloss finish. You can reference Shane's design from IM2 forward. He's always designed the suit to be shiny. But it's the same red and same gold.

I wasn't saying its "unfair" like its some injustice. Just that it's impractical to expect a 1/6 to have every nuance the 1/4 does. The added size is why it has some of these details.

My whole point was that saying the 1/6 is wrong in anyway because the 1/4 is different is silly and misguided.

 

[SaigonExpress69]

Eh I wouldn't really say it's unfair. The 1/4 version is better than the 1/6 overall. There's no need to pull out a ruler from a desk or run some experiments to see which one has what paint. It's a bigger scale and it gives them the breathing room to make it more "accurate".

Heck I have the 1/6 version displayed right now in my detolf. The 1/6 version is a great figure but seeing the exact same suit done with the precision that people wanted done on the 1/6, leaves people wanting that on the smaller scale version. If Hot Toys did a 2.0 1/6 version taking what they did on the 1/4, people would be all over it, myself included.

The 1/4 version just looks like a 1/1 on almost every shot. The 1/6 version doesn't in comparison.

The exact same things being said in this thread was said for the 1/4 TDK Batman figure. Better cowl? Check. Better shoulder armor plating? Check. Better likeness in the eye sculpt? Check. More accurate overall? Check.

The 1/6 version is slimmer overall. Helmet is better on the 1/4, torso is slimmer in diameter on the 1/6, thigh area is slimmer and the shoulder armor alignment also reaches outward away from the body more on the 1/6 when in neutral pose due to the construction of the shoulder plating joint. Even the faceplate has the correct eye slit size on the 1/4 version.

I'm going to be owning both and I see no problem with people pointing out the difference because it's only natural for it to be said. They're the same suit done in two different scale with them both looking very distinct from one another. But with the 1/4 being finished better it leaves people to say that it is. A lot of these shots for the 1/4 version look like they're pulled straight out from the movie or photographed on a 1/1 suit.

Nobody is downplaying the 1/6. It's just pale when compared between the two. I'm pretty sure most members here have the 1/6.

Nice post. I couldn't agree more.

For anyone who thinks the 1/6 scale is the "same" as the 1/4 scale figure, ask yourself this question: Why is there even a market for 1/4 scale figures?

Anyone who says the 1/6 version is equivalent or the same to the 1/4 version only does so because they don't want to believe/admit that the 1/6 version may be inferior to the 1/4 scale counterpart. That doesn't mean the 1/6 version sucks by any means, but >90% of the time, the 1/4 scale equivalent will have the superior detail, accuracy, realism and presence. Those are just luxuries that 1/4 scale allows for. Collectors that want their collectibles to have that higher level of detail, accuracy, realism and presence buy larger scales and pay the higher prices for that very reason. If the 1/4 scale figure was only bigger and nothing else, there wouldn't be much incentive to buy or even produce it.

 

[Royce12]

The 1/6 mk43 was started and designed with much earlier files and references. The 1/4 had the benifit of later changes and a fuller flesh out of the digital files. So if there are changes its becuase of those things. Not becuase the proportions are off.

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Sounds like what you are saying is the 1/6 figure is accurate to the earlier files and references. If the proportions were off on those earlier files and references then the resulting figure would have proportions that are off. And if the 1/4 used fuller and more accurate files then it's a better proportioned figure. Both accurate to the digital files used to create them. One using better files than the other.



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[YankeesFanboy]

For the new page because this figure looks too good!

Yep. 100% SOLD.

On top of it looking down right awesome, they even included shoulder missiles and they're including the correct forearm missile. 2 extra things.

- Perfect metallic paint application
- Correct body proportion
- Perfect alignment for the shoulder armor
- Great looking head sculpt
- Correct faceplate eye size
- Bonus included shoulder missles
- Correct forearm missle included as a bonus
- Arc reactor is fully detailed.
- Articulation is also fantastic. The forearm goes all the way up.

They absolutely nailed this figure to perfection.

Well, there you have it. I'm very impressed that HT made the forearm missile movie-accurate. While the 1/4 Boba Fett has the visor issue, this release appears to be issue-free. This probably vaults past Batman as HT's best 1/4 release.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

Nice post. I couldn't agree more.

For anyone who thinks the 1/6 scale is the "same" as the 1/4 scale figure, ask yourself this question: Why is there even a market for 1/4 scale figures?

Anyone who says the 1/6 version is equivalent or the same to the 1/4 version only does so because they don't want to believe/admit that the 1/6 version may be inferior to the 1/4 scale counterpart. That doesn't mean the 1/6 version sucks by any means, but >90% of the time, the 1/4 scale equivalent will have the superior detail, accuracy, realism and presence. Those are just luxuries that 1/4 scale allows for. Collectors that want their collectibles to have that higher level of detail, accuracy, realism and presence buy larger scales and pay the higher prices for that very reason. If the 1/4 scale figure was only bigger and nothing else, there wouldn't be much incentive to buy or even produce it.

I suppose too, the fact that this is Hot Toys in both cases makes a the quality improvement obvious too. I'm speculating here, as I haven't seen Enterbay figures in hand, but if you polled the Terminator boards I suspect the sixth scale DX T2 Arnie from Hot Toys probably does pretty well against it's larger Enterbay quarter scale counterpart for detail (and as for quality, I've read that Enterbay figures are best not fiddled with too much). While the Arnie headsculpt looks fantastic on the Enterbay figure, from what I can see these Iron Men figures in quarter scale could well be in another league..

 

[YankeesFanboy]

Other than a NECA Predator, I don't collect 1/4 scale. It's just not for me. I neither mind nor care if people think it's superior to 1/6.

That being said, I would be devastated if HT teased a 1/4 Hulkbuster at some point in the future.

 

[SaigonExpress69]

Other than a NECA Predator, I don't collect 1/4 scale. It's just not for me. I neither mind nor care if people think it's superior to 1/6.

That being said, I would be devastated if HT teased a 1/4 Hulkbuster at some point in the future.

Who are you kidding, YFB? You do mind and you do care. So just stop lying to yourself, sell your 1/6 collection and take the plunge into the 1/4 scale world. 1/4 is TRUTH!!!

I'm only kidding. I love both scales for different reasons: I enjoy 1/6 for the variety and 1/4 for the reasons I stated above. You can't go wrong with either, but if I'm forced to choose between a figure available at 1/6 vs 1/4, I'd pick the 1/4 figure 9/10 times.

 

[kiwiatlarge]

A one off centerpiece, no question I'd go for this quarter scale figure. A collection? it would be 1:6. I can't imagine trying to display 8 or 9 Avengers at this scale.

 

[SaigonExpress69]

^Yeah, space is definitely a limiting factor if you collect 1/4 scale. That's a nice thing about 1/6, the collections are usually more elegantly displayed in nice glass detolfs. I've only seen a few 1/4 collectors that invest in glass detolfs for their 1/4 scale figures since you can only fit around 3-6 figures per detolf. I don't have the space or money to get enough detolfs for my 1/4 collection, so mine are all currently displayed out in the open on shelves. When I get the extra space and money, I'll find a more proper way to display them.

 

[epitaph04]

Still no height confirmation? 1/4 scale is truth.