1/6 1/6 DIECAST Iron Man 2 WAR MACHINE

[enzolt]

Everything about the diecast is an improvement, except for those long elbows, and my eyes are immediately drawn to it. Anyone else bothered by them?

No not really.

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[Spanbauer]

Everything about the diecast is an improvement, except for those long elbows, and my eyes are immediately drawn to it. Anyone else bothered by them?

Based on this photo, seems it only looks that way when the arm is bent.

 

[Manannin]

Everything about the diecast is an improvement, except for those long elbows, and my eyes are immediately drawn to it. Anyone else bothered by them?

Not at all honestly. I have been posing and reposing him all week and never thought about the elbows once. I had to check to see what you mean and it's just the first join in the double jointed elbow to allow acute angles.

 

[sixxshooter]

Who cares about the Elbow for gods sake. This thing blows the original away .

 

[enzolt]

Who cares about the Elbow for gods sake. This thing blows the original away .

Right?

The elbow is needed for articulation.

Not sure why anyone would be complaining over something needed for articulation.

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[ShaneX]

^ My thoughts exactly

I'm really happy with HT for improving the articulation of their figures through these years. Looking good is one thing but being able to actually move and function well is number one for me.
This new Warmachine definitely rox

 

[Manannin]

Damn right it does, all caps.
I actually sold my 45, while being an excellent figure mechanically and artistically, it just didn't appeal to me like this one does.
Totally worth a purchase for anyone on the fence!

 

[Barrow Roll]

Yeah i have the same taught i think its for better articulattion.is one of the things where the v1 wins. Also if seen in front it looks like he has giant forearms and biceps but very thin and long elbows.

Agreed.

Based on this photo, seems it only looks that way when the arm is bent.

Not really, remember this photo Hot Toys shared a long time ago?

The difference is pretty evident. You might not mind it, but I think it looks pretty goofy. It's also really off from how the suit appeared on screen or in any of the CG renders.

Notice how none of the blogger pics are taken in similar poses? Always bent elbows, even in standard museum poses.

Who cares about the Elbow for gods sake. This thing blows the original away .

Right?

The elbow is needed for articulation.

Not sure why anyone would be complaining over something needed for articulation.

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You wanna know why I take issue with this? Because Hot Toys already solved this issue, many figures ago.

I don't have the figure in hand, can anyone that does tell me why they couldn't have implemented this technique again?

 

[SoGS]

Who really just comfortably stands with their elbows completely straight though?

 

[bebe13junior]

There will always be something not 100 % accurate. But I'm very happy and pleased with this figures and all of the ones I buy. This is still an amazing piece of engineering and sure maybe fault them where they've gone wrong....but praise them just as much on what they have done right and my oh my do they deserve the praise on this one.

And who is gonna pose this guy straight arms at his side. This is a war machine, ready to attack any moment. Arms up!!!

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[Sardo Numspa]

Elbows are definitely a little long. But the awesomeness of the rest of the figure far outweighs that issue (in my opinion).
Definitely too bad there is that flaw. But I strongly doubt HT will ever make a better version of this figure. I can't wait... can't wait, to have this in hand.

 

[Sardo Numspa]

And after watching Xenomorph's review (thanks for that, by the way), it's great to see they fixed the alternate chest plate issues. Looks like the battle damaged parts and clean parts, click in, and hold in, no problem....

 

[enzolt]

Elbows are definitely a little long. But the awesomeness of the rest of the figure far outweighs that issue (in my opinion).
Definitely too bad there is that flaw. But I strongly doubt HT will ever make a better version of this figure. I can't wait... can't wait, to have this in hand.

Do you understand the physical limitations of creating a 1/6 figure and allowing for articulation?

If the elbows were not as we have it, there wouldn't be any articulation...

It goes with any double-jointed elbow figures, Marvel Legends, SHF..

 

[Barrow Roll]

Who really just comfortably stands with their elbows completely straight though?

Well I did post a movie screenshot that shows War Machine standing with pretty relaxed arms. Maybe not completely straight, but who's saying anybody does that though? Are you implying that the long elbows would be noticeable only if the arms were kept completely straight? If so then I respectfully disagree.

There will always be something not 100 % accurate. But I'm very happy and pleased with this figures and all of the ones I buy. This is still an amazing piece of engineering and sure maybe fault them where they've gone wrong....but praise them just as much on what they have done right and my oh my do they deserve the praise on this one.

And who is gonna pose this guy straight arms at his side. This is a war machine, ready to attack any moment. Arms up!!!

It is a beautiful figure, and nothing is 100% accurate, but there's nothing wrong with criticizing aspects that you feel could have been improved upon. Hot Toys got so much right with this figure, that's why it bugs me that Mark I not only looks better and more screen accurate in this one aspect (seriously, everything else about this figure looks great), but other Hot Toys figures have been able to completely sidestep the issue while also having great articulation.

Do you understand the physical limitations of creating a 1/6 figure and allowing for articulation?

If the elbows were not as we have it, there wouldn't be any articulation...

It goes with any double-jointed elbow figures, Marvel Legends, SHF..

 

[Manannin]

And the pull down elbows (like 45) probably wouldn't have worked on this one due to the fact the arms are considerably bulkier than previous figures.
Say what you like about Hot Toys but I'm pretty sure they considered them and chose this method instead.
I don't think we ever saw him in the movie with his arms in the position that shows this 'fault' anyway, and I haven't found a pose where it looks bad so I can't see it being a problem for anyone else.

 

[bebe13junior]

Well I did post a movie screenshot that shows War Machine standing with pretty relaxed arms. Maybe not completely straight, but who's saying anybody does that though? Are you implying that the long elbows would be noticeable only if the arms were kept completely straight? If so then I respectfully disagree.


It is a beautiful figure, and nothing is 100% accurate, but there's nothing wrong with criticizing aspects that you feel could have been improved upon. Hot Toys got so much right with this figure, that's why it bugs me that Mark I not only looks better and more screen accurate in this one aspect (seriously, everything else about this figure looks great), but other Hot Toys figures have been able to completely sidestep the issue while also having great articulation.

Thanks [emoji1317]. I just wanted someone to quote my post! [emoji847][emoji847][emoji847] POWER!!!!


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[enzolt]

I am pretty sure Hot Toys engineering, with their accumulated knowledge and experience, looked into all avenues into making this figure as accurate and articulate as possible.

I guess everyone has an opinion, no matter how credible it is.

 

[wamphyri13]

Agreed.


Not really, remember this photo Hot Toys shared a long time ago?

You wanna know why I take issue with this? Because Hot Toys already solved this issue, many figures ago.

I don't have the figure in hand, can anyone that does tell me why they couldn't have implemented this technique again?

Maybe because none of the other armors, including your posted example, are as bulky as WM MkI. There is a lot of bulk added throughout the entire frame that may limit the easier movement of less bulky figures. Anyone remember Ralphie's little brother in, "A Christmas Story" when his mother dressed him for the cold? He couldn't put his arms down or get up off the ground because of so much bulk and limited movement. Just a thought.
Ryan

 

[enzolt]

Maybe because none of the other armors, including your posted example, are as bulky as WM MkI. There is a lot of bulk added throughout the entire frame that may limit the easier movement of less bulky figures. Anyone remember Ralphie's little brother in, "A Christmas Story" when his mother dressed him for the cold? He couldn't put his arms down or get up off the ground because of so much bulk and limited movement. Just a thought.
Ryan

We have to understand that this is a die-cast figure....

The original was plastic. The weight has to be taken into consideration when designing the joints (added stress).

 

[enzolt]

Can anyone with the figure pose the arms straight down? Are the arms able to be pushed up to show less of the elbow joint?