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Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

Can't use glam photos for comparison purposes. Look at the second photo P. posted and you can see the droopy left eyelid there.
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Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I said "relaxed".
9 times outta 10 in studio reference photos you'll see her upper lids.
Even in the picts you post she's showing more than the sculpt.
And that lower trout lip should be more pronounced.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

NEWS! NEWS!

Jonesy is being reworked...

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Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I really do agree about the eyelid thing, HT keeps sculpting eyes bad that way not doing eyes worth a ****.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I agree about the upper eyelid fix, and such an easy fix to do.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

NEWS! NEWS!

Jonesy is being reworked...

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that is NOT a cat.
a person who sculpted it has zero knowledge of anatomy, its some cartoon creature. or made by a child.
i think it will hide inside the box forever, poor creature.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

NEWS! NEWS!

Jonesy is being reworked...

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That does look a lot better already and good news that this shows they are actually following and listening to the criticism of this figure. If they really didnt care about Ripley they wouldn't of bothered I think, but seeing as they are makes me more hopeful Hot Toys are more invested in making the Alien licence work rather than just be half arsed about it.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

That does look a lot better already and good news that this shows they are actually following and listening to the criticism of this figure. If they really didnt care about Ripley they wouldn't of bothered I think, but seeing as they are makes me more hopeful Hot Toys are more invested in making the Alien licence work rather than just be half arsed about it.

The updating of a place-holder isn't necessarily a response to criticism :dunno
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I could care less about the cat. With its head cocked sideways like that you'll never see it in that box anyway.

I hope they give the watch a face (both faces). Forget the cat, HT -- pay attention to some other details.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I see more issues. These might already have been pointed out by somebody else, but I can't check the last 304853048530 posts to avoid reposting, so here we go:

1) Face outline: forget about the damn jaw line and look at the... whole picture. Compare the front pic of the hs with this:

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Sigourney has straight face sides. If you look carefully, at eye height, the area between the far end (wrt to center) of each eye and the beginning of the corresponding ear is WAY TOO WIDE. Result: a mellon. And eyes looking too small when they probably aren't, jaw line looking wrong when it probably isn't, etc.
Face outline is the face's frame. It is important. It limits the extension of the face and lays the foundation of its appearance.

2) Huge asimetry: area between nose and right eye (wrt to beholder). Look. Compare now to left eye. See it?

3) Huge asimetry II: right eye higher than left one.

Sigourney is very beautiful because, among many other sweet reasons, she is very simmetrical. These noticeable asimetries screw things up big time.


4) Ears: we need to see more of them. They act as a reference and help shape the face.


5) Chin should be way flatter and wider. Refer to the above image.


6) Sculpted hair is a horrible piece of unaccurate ****. Implanted hair looks way more realistic, even if it needs proper care.


7) Slightly too thick, unaccurate nose.


8) Eyebrows too long.



These problems can't be fixed with any paintjob, so... screw up lies unavoidably ahead.

Mouth is OK, under the nose OK. Eyelids missing, yeah.

If anybody of you can put together an Before-After with these observations, I'll consider this effort worth it.

Regards,
m.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

:mwaha:mwaha:mwaha

I do agree though, Weaver had a much more symmetrical and rectangular face than the HT sculpt.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I see more issues. These might already have been pointed out by somebody else, but I can't check the last 304853048530 posts to avoid reposting
you didn't even bother to count posts right, how can you try and nitpick this great great grail figure of the year :mad:

p.s. when i said several years ago that HT make all faces round and move all eyes close to the nose because they don't understand how else a face can look, i was called a racist. now enjoy your MMS238, commando and now Ripley with all similar features - round faces with eyes near the nose.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

you didn't even bother to count posts right, how can you try and nitpick this great great grail figure of the year :mad:

p.s. when i said several years ago that HT make all faces round and move all eyes close to the nose because they don't understand how else a face can look, i was called a racist. now enjoy your DX13, MMS238, commando and now Ripley with all similar features - round faces with eyes near the nose.

Added one to your list.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

I think there was some discussion that Farmboy Luke had that issue a bit with the eyes being a touch too close compared with Hamill. And definitely Chewbacca.
 
Re: Hot Toys: Ellen Ripley - Alien (Updated with new prototype HS)

All the Star Wars sculpts bar Leia are underwhelming.

In fact, line up every HT figure ever and pick one at random and chances are the likeness and/or expression will be found wanting.

Despite what the film still comparisons and hi-res promo pics suggest, this Ripley will look great in 1/6 scale from a distance of more than three inches away. (Almost) guaranteed.
 
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