1/6 Hot Toys - Iron Man 3: MMS197D02 Mark XLII Diecast Series Official Spec/Pics

[LipSmack]

We wont really know for sure if Diecast is a success for at least a year... sure its good out of the gate, but like the pink panty issue time will tell

 

[Taibhse]

Quality control, kid. Quality control....

You don't get it. Cheap gimmicks are enough to persuade you. So be it.

So the crusade goes on?..
until a figure with faulty diecast is released to vindicate you?..
interesting..
some people might feel your efforts would be better directed at rubber..
where there have been repeated problems..
rather than diecast..
where there have not..
Obviously I was wrong... good of you to put me straight.. I humbly apologise for not seeing just how awful the War Machine 2, Iron Patriot and Mk42 really are.. deep down.. it may only take 10 or 20 years to discover the truth.. but I am grateful for your guidance on the correct figures to buy.

...got any pictures of your ED209?

 

[R3d15]

Looking good R3d15

Though, I couldn't help but notice...

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yeah, forgot to open the plastic wrap around the legs there..was excited playing with the figure at that time


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[Mr Walker]

So the crusade goes on?..
until a figure with faulty diecast is released to vindicate you?..
interesting..
some people might feel your efforts would be better directed at rubber..
where there have been repeated problems..
rather than diecast..
where there have not..
Obviously I was wrong... good of you to put me straight.. I humbly apologise for not seeing just how awful the War Machine 2, Iron Patriot and Mk42 really are.. deep down.. it may only take 10 or 20 years to discover the truth.. but I am grateful for your guidance on the correct figures to buy.

...got any pictures of your ED209?

Like I said kid, quality control....

But hey, you obviously know everything.

 

[Taibhse]

Like I said kid, quality control....

But hey, you obviously know everything.

Not everything.. however in view of the problems with the ED209 v1, when HT announced the ED209 v2 I did decide to wait and see what the dome was made of.. and if there were any problems reported by owners..before ordering.. someone advised me that quality control was the key and to look at the history of the material.. fairly sure it was someone on this forum.. name escapes me at the moment.. so many posts, it's difficult to remember at my age...

 

[Mr Walker]

Sounds like that person might have given you sage advice. Might want to consider that they obviously know what they're talking about....

 

[Taibhse]

There is a report that Hot Toys has revised the later batch of Mark 42!



Here is a rough google translation:

"Hottoys alloy MK42 point and no improvement in the second batch of Figure Review

Yesterday by SEAN JOB brother pointing, go home one to see, the original MK42 second batch of goods increased from two to a single lap cushion, reducing stress, I believe on the Department of HOTTOYS broken hand and asked for solutions.

Between the joints to see the young scar patterns do not believe the rift, but tired at the ball joint like the following figure, flowing lines forming.

Brother get back playing after a lot of action, but also really smooth lines, no problem, I hope there will not be trouble enough."

pic and credit goes to catcat of Toys Daily

original topic's here

https://toysdaily.com/discuz/thread-226342-1-1.html

Hmmm... it may well work, if there is not enough space in the joint for both plastic bushes and the extra pressure is breaking the plastic.. however the solution looks to be simply: remove the arm, cut off one plastic bush and replace the arm.. I'm not entirely sure however that it is a genuine solution, rather than a cheap fix.

For example, say you have a brake disc with a pad on each side but you discover the design is faulty, there is not enough space for both pads, so the brakes are jamming and shearing off the brake pad on one side.. you would not normally just remove one brake pad from all brakes with that design.. because the disc will wear out much faster with no pad on one side, just metal on metal.

I wouldn't mind, but this is exactly the sort of thing Mr Walker and Lipsmack will come back to in a year or so.. have HT gone stark raving bonkers, I might lose a debate over this fix!



Gadzooks! I may have to try and find a first batch Mk42 for my museum pose collection.



Edit - I had a closer look at this photo and it actually appears that the next bit of the joint is also plastic , so this fix should work.. hopefully.

 

[Rorywan]

I will add my two cents to this.
I was pretty negative myself about die cast when it was announced.
In my experience it's softer on detail, ages in an unknown way and chips, scratches more easily. The added weight can loosen a figure and cause problems.
Now I got the mark42 and love it, but what about my previous concerns?

I was looking at some of the older plastic Marks yesterday and yes the Mark 42 is a little softer on detail than the laser sharp plastic figures. I don't know if it will age well, none of us do, and I could certainly see joint weight issues down the line,as with any die cast.

But I love Mark42. Love it.
So there is no right or wrong here. It too early to tell.

 

[Taibhse]

I will add my two cents to this.
I was pretty negative myself about die cast when it was announced.
In my experience it's softer on detail, ages in an unknown way and chips, scratches more easily. The added weight can loosen a figure and cause problems.
Now I got the mark42 and love it, but what about my previous concerns?

I was looking at some of the older plastic Marks yesterday and yes the Mark 42 is a little softer on detail than the laser sharp plastic figures. I don't know if it will age well, none of us do, and I could certainly see joint weight issues down the line,as with any die cast.

But I love Mark42. Love it.
So there is no right or wrong here. It too early to tell.

I take your point.. I think it was in an attempt to minimise this risk, that HT went with a much lower diecast component level, than Play Imaginative.

 

[Seantron]

I will add my two cents to this.
I was pretty negative myself about die cast when it was announced.
In my experience it's softer on detail, ages in an unknown way and chips, scratches more easily. The added weight can loosen a figure and cause problems.
Now I got the mark42 and love it, but what about my previous concerns?

I was looking at some of the older plastic Marks yesterday and yes the Mark 42 is a little softer on detail than the laser sharp plastic figures. I don't know if it will age well, none of us do, and I could certainly see joint weight issues down the line,as with any die cast.

But I love Mark42. Love it.
So there is no right or wrong here. It too early to tell.

I agree I had concerns with joint weight over time but so far so good with my War Machine MKII although it does scratch ridiculously easy. I'm more curious with releases like the MKIII to compare paint apps between plastic and diecast the overall matte look to the paint seems to convey a more real look to me or at least one closer to how my eyes view it in the films.

 

[Brainiac]

So they seem to have minimized the risk of breakage in the later batch, I hop SSC gets those

 

[Taibhse]

So they seem to have minimized the risk of breakage in the later batch, I hop SSC gets those

Hmmm.. we will not know for sure until a reasonable number of collectors have got figures from the 'new batch'.. but if HT have correctly identified the cause of the problem and if removing one of the inner bushes fixes that, then it is certainly looking good.

 

[Brainiac]

Hmmm.. we will not know for sure until a reasonable number of collectors have got figures from the 'new batch'.. but if HT have correctly identified the cause of the problem and if removing one of the inner bushes fixes that, then it is certainly looking good.

at least then most of us can stop panicking
well see next month

 

[Rorywan]

One pic and everyone thinks there is a new batch?
Always makes me laugh when I read about these.


There is no new batch. These new batches are a myth. One that is jumped on every time there is a QC issue with a toy.
A genuine fix and new batch would take months. Literally months. There is way too much lead in time on the production of these figures. So the figure comes out, there are some QC issues and a "new batch" appears a few weeks later? Pure fantasy, do you know what the turnaround on one of these products would be? When do you think SS's allotment were boxed and shipped? Most of these parts were manufactured months ago to hit this release date. The most you can ask for is better QC when boxing at this stage.



Now back to talking about this "new batch" is it just the one pic?

 

[R3d15]

Any pics of your mark 42?


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[Mr Walker]

One pic and everyone thinks there is a new batch?
Always makes me laugh when I read about these.


There is no new batch. These new batches are a myth. One that is jumped on every time there is a QC issue with a toy.
A genuine fix and new batch would take months. Literally months. There is way too much lead in time on the production of these figures. So the figure comes out, there are some QC issues and a "new batch" appears a few weeks later? Pure fantasy, do you know what the turnaround on one of these products would be? When do you think SS's allotment were boxed and shipped? Most of these parts were manufactured months ago to hit this release date. The most you can ask for is better QC when boxing at this stage.



Now back to talking about this "new batch" is it just the one pic?

Even were there a new batch, what are HT doing to put right all those people on the first batch who've received a defective item?

I agree I had concerns with joint weight over time but so far so good with my War Machine MKII although it does scratch ridiculously easy. I'm more curious with releases like the MKIII to compare paint apps between plastic and diecast the overall matte look to the paint seems to convey a more real look to me or at least one closer to how my eyes view it in the films.

Psychological. Any decent paint job there's no telling what's underneath it.

 

[Rorywan]

Any pics of your mark 42?


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Quite a few pages back.

 

[Taibhse]

One pic and everyone thinks there is a new batch?
Always makes me laugh when I read about these.


There is no new batch. These new batches are a myth. One that is jumped on every time there is a QC issue with a toy.
A genuine fix and new batch would take months. Literally months. There is way too much lead in time on the production of these figures. So the figure comes out, there are some QC issues and a "new batch" appears a few weeks later? Pure fantasy, do you know what the turnaround on one of these products would be? When do you think SS's allotment were boxed and shipped? Most of these parts were manufactured months ago to hit this release date. The most you can ask for is better QC when boxing at this stage.



Now back to talking about this "new batch" is it just the one pic?

I take your point, however this change would require very little work from HT.. the fix appears to be - remove arm, cut away second bush, replace arm.. job done.
So the term 'new batch' is a misnomer, it appears to be the 'original' production run, but with a quick fix.

 

[LipSmack]

I take your point, however this change would require very little work from HT.. the fix appears to be - remove arm, cut away second bush, replace arm.. job done.
So the term 'new batch' is a misnomer, it appears to be the 'original' production run, but with a quick fix.

wheres the gap from the removed piece then..?

 

[Rorywan]

I take your point, however this change would require very little work from HT.. the fix appears to be - remove arm, cut away second bush, replace arm.. job done.
So the term 'new batch' is a misnomer, it appears to be the 'original' production run, but with a quick fix.

That would depend on whether the figures were already assembled or not. And if anything within the joint would need to be changed, to accommodate the upgrade. Generally HT pieces are like incredibly well engineered jigsaw pieces... you can't just take something out.


Anyway, this conversation is completely hypothetical. One washer was missing on someones arm and suddenly it's a new batch.