1/6 Hot Toys - MMS - Star Wars: Episode VII - Han & Chewbacca Collectible Figure

[Hydeous]

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come on folks, I can't believe there isnt more of an uproar about Hans hair. Especially since the rest of the figure is so solid, and it would be a very easy fix for them if people voiced their opinions.

The figure is great, they finally managed to pull off a decent Harrison Ford likeness, and for that we are all stoked, but that hair RUINS the figure, and completely destroys the likeness. PLEASE revisit the hair HT, make it less poofy, straighter and flatter and more.. 76 year old manish please.

This is a common artistic rule of thumb when sculpting, you need to group the hair and make a flow of direction.

 

[afattori]

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I appreciate that man! The special editions use to not bother me one bit. I mean I loved the extra scenery details of Mos Eisley & Cloud City/the new wampa footage....but LOATHED the changing of Jason Wingreen's voice and the goofy ass new dance number at Jabba's. But I had no clue that so much of the dialog (especially Vader) was changed..and multiple times at that! Now with Disney owning the brand, perhaps the fans will finally get a digitally remastered and PURE ORGINAL version of the OT.

If Disney was smart they will release the original theatrical versions of the movie, but I doubt they will unless they can make a fortune off the release. Not sure if there's a large enough market other than die hard fans who will buy it. Sadly alot of younger fans will think Hayden Christiansen was always at the end of ROTJ. I have not watched it since it first came out on DVD way back then. I just literally staired at my 32" crt TV with my mouth open for 2 minutes. That is sad.

 

[Rainpaulo]

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Feck it.... ordered

 

[plasticcrapmoneywaster]

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If Disney was smart they will release the original theatrical versions of the movie, but I doubt they will unless they can make a fortune off the release. Not sure if there's a large enough market other than die hard fans who will buy it. Sadly alot of younger fans will think Hayden Christiansen was always at the end of ROTJ. I have not watched it since it first came out on DVD way back then. I just literally staired at my 32" crt TV with my mouth open for 2 minutes. That is sad.

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From a story telling perspective, Hayden Christensen's presence made A LOT more sense than Shaw's.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Nah.

 

[Tom Day]

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From a story telling perspective, Hayden Christensen's presence made A LOT more sense than Shaw's.

Care to elaborate? I can't wait to hear this one.

 

[Futurion]

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From a story telling perspective, Hayden Christensen's presence made A LOT more sense than Shaw's.

Said noone ever.

But really. How? Every force ghost in SW except Anakin had it's last form. So for example Obi-wan ghost was still Sir Alec Guinness and not McGregor. I can came up only with a theory that ghost went back to it's last "light" form, but i don't like it even as my theory.

Let's be honest. They did it just to be sure that every last idiot will understand that Anakin was Vader, in case they didn't catch up that from last five movies.

Or maybe not, maybe it's just another meaningless thing George bring to us to make our lives more miserable.

 

[davejames]

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From a storytelling perspective I'd say it made a lot more sense to let Luke see the man he unmasked a few minutes earlier in the film as happy and content in the Force. Rather than some young kid he never would have recognized.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

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Said noone ever.

But really. How? Every force ghost in SW except Anakin had it's last form. So for example Obi-wan ghost was still Sir Alec Guinness and not McGregor. I can came up only with a theory that ghost went back to it's last "light" form, but i don't like it even as my theory.

Let's be honest. They did it just to be sure that every last idiot will understand that Anakin was Vader, in case they didn't catch up that from last five movies.

Or maybe not, maybe it's just another meaningless thing George bring to us to make our lives more miserable.

This.

I just couldn't be arsed to type it.

Glad I havemy harmys so I can avoid that BS.

 

[TonTon]

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From a storytelling perspective I'd say it made a lot more sense to let Luke see the man he unmasked a few minutes earlier in the film as happy and content in the Force. Rather than some young kid he never would have recognized.

Yeah, I'm in agreement there. It's a father figure as well as opposed to someone younger than Luke, and it's a person of Alec's generation which was how the story was told to Luke. Honestly if Lucas really wanted Hayden that bad he should have superimposed an older crusty Hayden when he removes the helmet and then a nice old man version of Hayden. Too much work I guess, so instead they plop in a young guy Luke has never laid eyes on.

 

[plasticcrapmoneywaster]

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Said noone ever.

But really. How? Every force ghost in SW except Anakin had it's last form. So for example Obi-wan ghost was still Sir Alec Guinness and not McGregor. I can came up only with a theory that ghost went back to it's last "light" form, but i don't like it even as my theory.

Let's be honest. They did it just to be sure that every last idiot will understand that Anakin was Vader, in case they didn't catch up that from last five movies.

Or maybe not, maybe it's just another meaningless thing George bring to us to make our lives more miserable.

When Luke unmasked Vader he was nothing more than a walking torso. From Obi-Wan's own words that when Anakin turned to Vader the man who was Luke's father died. So from a 'certain point of view' it makes perfect sense to have Anakin as he appeared BEFORE he turned to the Dark Side appear in that form as a specter. Of course from your take on it, if you go with the original version, than Anakin would have been a floating torso...

 

[Centrocal]

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Hi RES pg 62 post #612

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[bebe13junior]

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100% it should have been the same individual that Luke unmasked. That scene, when Luke unmasks Vader, we see that underneath the booming voice, and mechanical body there is a man. A man that was twisted and molded by the Emperor. Luke brought Anakin back to the light...he had started that process once Vader knew of Luke. And when seeing his son being tortured and near death at the hands of the Emperor, Anakin made a choice...a choice that fully brought him back into the light side in my opinion and that was to kill the Dark Sith Lord in order to save the last remaining Jedi. Now he made this choice as an Older Anakin...the young Anakin made his choice to join the Dark Side. So why wouldn't the old Anakin be able to live for ever...body restored...spirit restored...after he brought balance to the force.


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[SilverStar17]

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From a story telling perspective, Hayden Christensen's presence made A LOT more sense than Shaw's.

If by from a story telling perspective it made more sense because you mean it simply tied the PT in with the OT and nothing more, then yes, I would agree.

Said noone ever.

But really. How? Every force ghost in SW except Anakin had it's last form. So for example Obi-wan ghost was still Sir Alec Guinness and not McGregor. I can came up only with a theory that ghost went back to it's last "light" form, but i don't like it even as my theory.

Let's be honest. They did it just to be sure that every last idiot will understand that Anakin was Vader, in case they didn't catch up that from last five movies.

Or maybe not, maybe it's just another meaningless thing George bring to us to make our lives more miserable.

I personally prefer Shaw, but you could also always say there's no other force ghost in SW that had their limbs chopped off and body badly charred while they were living.

Let the debate continue. With Star Trek, it's Kirk or Picard. With Star Wars, it's Shaw or Christensen.

 

[plasticcrapmoneywaster]

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----------Because Vader's body was sustained both mechanically and by the Dark Side itself. Anakin was physically broken, more machine than man, etc. Look, you aren't wrong, but, neither am I. It is all a perspective argument. I just liked the Lucas choose to insert Hayden to loop the prequels back to the originals. Personal preference.

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[mattinglymint23]

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Lucas should be in prison for that move alone


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[Rudimus]

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I'd like to think young Anakin was there because that's the person Darth Vader killed from Obi Wan's point of view. Also in the Force Awakens if Darth Vader appeared to Ben(Kylo Ren) then that would have to imply there's two spirits from Anakin, Clone War hero Anakin & Dark side Vader.

 

[bebe13junior]

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But that is the problem in and of itself that is such a knock on his storytelling ability. If the move is simply to "loop the prequels back to the originals"....I mean that is a forced decision. To "force" us as viewers to think on the prequels and not on the major events of the Return of the Jedi, the end of the original trilogy, that just happened. I think the original trilogy should always be viewed in a way that you don't need to have seen the prequels. Because you don't...at all. Even if you are a fan of the prequels...the OT is a self-sustained story in and of itself.


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[plasticcrapmoneywaster]

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But that is the problem in and of itself that is such a knock on his storytelling ability. If the move is simply to "loop the prequels back to the originals"....I mean that is a forced decision. To "force" us as viewers to think on the prequels and not on the major events of the Return of the Jedi, the end of the original trilogy, that just happened. I think the original trilogy should always be viewed in a way that you don't need to have seen the prequels. Because you don't...at all. Even if you are a fan of the prequels...the OT is a self-sustained story in and of itself.


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No it isn't. It is a revision to incorporate one's current work within the context of the original. It feeds into the artist's outlook that a project is never finished it is merely abandoned. As someone, who has written a few things myself, I can appreciate that. Look, if you prefer the originals cool, you will always have them. I just liked that Luke in the SE got to see Anakin as he truly was BEFORE he turned. To me, it made it feel bigger, more epic. I never understood the hypothetical elderly Anakin spirit from the originals, even in 1983, I thought it was a little odd.

 

[bebe13junior]

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No it isn't. It is a revision to incorporate one's current work within the context of the original. It feeds into the artist's outlook that a project is never finished it is merely abandoned. As someone, who has written a few things myself, I can appreciate that. Look, if you prefer the originals cool, you will always have them. I just liked that Luke in the SE got to see Anakin as he truly was BEFORE he turned. To me, it made it feel bigger, more epic. I never understood the hypothetical elderly Anakin spirit from the originals, even in 1983, I thought it was a little odd.

Listen I respect your opinion. And I write (and draw) myself and that's the beauty of creativity is that it is individual. We all have our ideas about our work and other peoples work.... I just don't agree with constantly tinkering with an idea. I try to steer away from that because I think a lot of great things happen "in the moment" and going back and tinkering here and there can potentially ruin something that was fine the way it is. I've had those times where I'm constantly wanting to change things up...!bjt there is something to be said for seeing a good thing and letting it stand pat as it is.

But let me finish by saying that of course what Lucas did and what you may have done...it has merit and I shouldn't have knocked on him because it is his work and vision and he is allowed to do with it as he wishes (tho not now...#Disney).


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