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Incorrect. Rogers was first. After Dr. Erskine died they tried to replicate the formula and tested it on Bradley.

Young Avengers states that Isaiah Bradley happened before Steve. I remember Eli making a huge deal out of it before we found out he was taking MGH.
 
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Just FYI...

Isaiah Bradley (Earth-616)

After losing the secrets of the Super Soldier Serum with the death of Dr. Erskine, the United States Army still wanted to produce more like Steve Rogers. Col. Walker Price and Dr. Wilfred Nagel forcibly recruited Isaiah and 300 other African-American solders to serve as test subjects to recreate the Super Soldier Serum.
 
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And I just found it in my book. XD

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Steve Rogers was the first Captain America, just like Clark Kent was the first Superman and Bruce Wayne was the first Batman.
 
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It's like how Namor is the first Mutant that was ever written but Apocalypse is the first mutant ever.
 
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The serum Steve took was the perfected serum. It was first tested on Isaiah Bradley. It flat out says so in Red White and Truth. Bradley even takes the gear meant for Steve to save his friends. He was the 1st one. That's the whole point of Red White and Truth. To depict the tragedy of the US actually experimenting on black soldiers.
 
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It's like how Namor is the first Mutant that was ever written but Apocalypse is the first mutant ever.

No.

The serum Steve took was the perfected serum. It was first tested on Isaiah Bradley. It flat out says so in Red White and Truth. Bradley even takes the gear meant for Steve to save his friends. He was the 1st one. That's the whole point of Red White and Truth. To depict the tragedy of the US actually experimenting on black soldiers.

No. Dr. Erskine created the only "perfect" serum, and he gave it to Steve before he died. The government wasn't so confident in later attempts to recreate it so they tested it on black soldiers.

Robert Morales himself (author of Red, White, and Black) specifically clarified that Steve came first in the appendix to the trade paperback:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley

Clarifying the timeline for Isaiah Bradley and Steve Rogers—and who predates whom—Robert Morales states in his appendix to the Truth: Red, White & Black trade paperback collection (2004):

Truth was originally planned to be outside of the Marvel Universe's official continuity. The editorial decision to place it into continuity meant explaining Timely Comics' first publication of Joe Simon and Jack Kirby’s Captain America in 1940—a full year before Pearl Harbor and the true start of our story.

Truth co-creator Kyle Baker further clarified the respective timelines of Bradley and Rogers in an interview:

With Captain America, people get on my case for 'changing' Captain America. We got a lot of grief from the Captain America fans on that series until the fifth and sixth issues came out; when it turned out that we hadn't tinkered with the continuity. Before that, everybody was very upset, because our story started with Pearl Harbor, and everybody knows that the first issue of Captain America took place before Pearl. Somewhere in the middle of the series, it's revealed that Cap already existed, and we hadn't tinkered with the timeline, and suddenly, the book is okay.[9]

Editor Axel Alonso described the debate as internet fans unfairly prejudging the series based on assumptions that it tarnished Captain America's legacy.

Marvel.com also lists Bradley's start of service in the army as being after Steve:

https://marvel.com/universe/Bradley,_Isaiah

In February of 1942, Isaiah enlisted into the United States Army leaving a pregnant Faith behind. Bradley became a private and was stationed at Camp Cathcart in Mississippi which was ran by a Major Brackett. He was assigned to a squad which included the wealthy Maurice Canfield, the lovable Jefferson "JJ" Jamison, naive Jack Harvey, sociopath Damon Larsen, and quiet David Plumb. They were led by World War One veteran Sargent Lucas Evans.

More on Marvel.com: https://marvel.com/universe/Bradley,_Isaiah#ixzz37plDN4UN

And Marvel.com's entry for Steve Rogers:

https://marvel.com/universe/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)#Early_Years_and_World_War_II

Steve Rogers was a scrawny fine arts student growing up during the Great Depression. His alcoholic father died when Steve was a child, and his mother passed away from pneumonia after he graduated high school. In early 1940, appalled at Nazi Germany’s horrific atrocities, Steve attempted to enlist in the army. Failing to pass physical requirements, he was invited to volunteer for Operation: Rebirth, a project intended to enhance US soldiers to the height of physical perfection via the inventions and discoveries of Professor Abraham Erskine. Rogers eagerly accepted and became the first test subject.

More on Marvel.com: https://marvel.com/universe/Captain_America_(Steve_Rogers)#ixzz37ploWsip
 
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No.



No. Dr. Erskine created the only "perfect" serum, and he gave it to Steve before he died. The government wasn't so confident in later attempts to recreate it so they tested it on black soldiers.

Robert Morales himself (author of Red, White, and Black) specifically clarified that Steve came first in the appendix to the trade paperback:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaiah_Bradley



Marvel.com also lists Bradley's start of service in the army as being after Steve:

https://marvel.com/universe/Bradley,_Isaiah


I thought I already posted that info...


...oh hey, I did! :lol :wink1:
 
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Not quite 100% done, but....

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And, add just one accessory and wah lah! He's Captain America! LOL

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Not quite 100% done, but....

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Excellent photos! :rock





Khev said:
Well they weren't listening to either one of us so I thought I'd post a little more data.

Thanks to you and DS, for some of Captain America's lore.. I didn't know that.
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..still might change my mind yet again, and get this figure.
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^^ Awesome pics of 'Kid Falcon'!! :rock
 
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