1/6 Hot Toys - MMS402/3 - Rogue One - Chirrut Imwe Collectible Figure

[wadeit0ut]

lol I want them to only make white and black people wahhh

He is cool! I actually thought the detail on him is fantastic I would love a PF of him beating a trooper in the face.

I just realized my phone auto corrected "Tarkin" to "starling" lol

 

[darth dennis]

I just realized my phone auto corrected "Tarkin" to "starling" lol

That's cool, I think we can all get behind a "Clarice" figure...

 

[KerotanFrog]

I preordered because of those secret base pics. If he is a cool character in RO, and hopefully fights Vader, then I'll keep it. The stand is a nice touch.

 

[TaliBane]

Well there is also the possibility that they made him because he's clearly cooler to look at than a middle aged white guy standing in a white suit with a white cape. The same reason you don't see a ton of starling stuff made.

To me Krennic is the only character to come out of the RO trailers that has gravitas and feels very Star Wars - a lot of RO feels like a SW TV show, Krennic is very big screen. Jyn feels very Rey/Mary Sue to me and the supporting players either feel low wattage, derivative (the droid just feels too 3PO, the dry jokes changed in context because the new droid has some physical menace) or just not very Star Wars - this Imwe guy included. Remove the Star Wars stand tag from him and you'd never have guessed he was from a SW movie - same with the Ghostbusters guy (Base I think?)

Krennic I would have PO'ed in a heartbeat, but this guy - I dunno, Rey dragged around that pole thing in TFA, now this guy literally has a stick to "kill" armored stormtroopers. And to think people questioned the utility of stormtrooper armor with the Ewoks with arrows, rocks and clubs. Now we have Jyn with a small baton and this guy with his walking stick laying massacring a dozen of them.

Look, I get it - slap a Star Wars logo on it and it's a new classic we're all supposed to love it because it's filmed interacting with OT goodness, but some of it just doesn't pass muster to me.

 

[wadeit0ut]

To me Krennic is the only character to come out of the RO trailers that has gravitas and feels very Star Wars - a lot of RO feels like a SW TV show, Krennic is very big screen. Jyn feels very Rey/Mary Sue to me and the supporting players either feel low wattage, derivative (the droid just feels too 3PO, the dry jokes changed in context because the new droid has some physical menace) or just not very Star Wars - this Imwe guy included. Remove the Star Wars stand tag from him and you'd never have guessed he was from a SW movie - same with the Ghostbusters guy (Base I think?)

Krennic I would have PO'ed in a heartbeat, but this guy - I dunno, Rey dragged around that pole thing in TFA, now this guy literally has a stick to "kill" armored stormtroopers. And to think people questioned the utility of stormtrooper armor with the Ewoks with arrows, rocks and clubs. Now we have Jyn with a small baton and this guy with his walking stick laying massacring a dozen of them.

Look, I get it - slap a Star Wars logo on it and it's a new classic we're all supposed to love it because it's filmed interacting with OT goodness, but some of it just doesn't pass muster to me.

Krennic is literally going to just walk around, talk to people, maybe use a blaster once or twice, and die. I get why people like the guy, but for merchandising purposes he leaves a lot to be desired. I think he would make for a cooler statue/PF than a figure personally.

 

[TaliBane]

Krennic is literally going to just walk around, talk to people, maybe use a blaster once or twice, and die. I get why people like the guy, but for merchandising purposes he leaves a lot to be desired. I think he would make for a cooler statue/PF than a figure personally.

Because the actor has 100% more charisma and presence than the entire rest of the RO cast combined, and from what little we've seen, it shows through in his character. People have figures of Don Draper from "Mad Men" standing in the Detolf with just a whiskey glass in his hand - and he was voted most influential male several years ago - characters don't need to have ghostbusters-esque suits and ATAT cannons or magical sticks and white eyes to be cool.

 

[Vonhahn]

To me Krennic is the only character to come out of the RO trailers that has gravitas and feels very Star Wars - a lot of RO feels like a SW TV show, Krennic is very big screen. Jyn feels very Rey/Mary Sue to me and the supporting players either feel low wattage, derivative (the droid just feels too 3PO, the dry jokes changed in context because the new droid has some physical menace) or just not very Star Wars - this Imwe guy included. Remove the Star Wars stand tag from him and you'd never have guessed he was from a SW movie - same with the Ghostbusters guy (Base I think?)

Krennic I would have PO'ed in a heartbeat, but this guy - I dunno, Rey dragged around that pole thing in TFA, now this guy literally has a stick to "kill" armored stormtroopers. And to think people questioned the utility of stormtrooper armor with the Ewoks with arrows, rocks and clubs. Now we have Jyn with a small baton and this guy with his walking stick laying massacring a dozen of them.

Look, I get it - slap a Star Wars logo on it and it's a new classic we're all supposed to love it because it's filmed interacting with OT goodness, but some of it just doesn't pass muster to me.

You dont like him....dont get him. Dont like what you see for the movie.....dont go see it. But for hevans sake stop bringing your sanctimonious trolling here. Im so tired of these forums that were supposed to cultivate excitement for this hobby being poisoned by negative after negative.

 

[TaliBane]

You dont like him....dont get him. Dont like what you see for the movie.....dont go see it. But for hevans sake stop bringing your sanctimonious trolling here. Im so tired of these forums that were supposed to cultivate excitement for this hobby being poisoned by negative after negative.

Uh-oh - it's the Opinion Police again.

Have licenses and Disney Marketing approval stamps ready for inspection.

Forums are about difference of opinion. You don't like it, for heavens sake make your own forum where only you can post. Then you can cultivate your excitement without the poison of negativity and trolls - aka other people's opinions - and you won't get so tired.

Oh, and Disney Marketing just sent you a message to pass on to everyone...

cultivate excitement... cultivate excitement...cultivate excitement...

 

[Malgus]

I preordered because of those secret base pics. If he is a cool character in RO, and hopefully fights Vader, then I'll keep it. The stand is a nice touch.

Out of place guy with stick fighting Vader. Yeah that makes perfect sense.

 

[Adam1138]

To me Krennic is the only character to come out of the RO trailers that has gravitas and feels very Star Wars - a lot of RO feels like a SW TV show, Krennic is very big screen. Jyn feels very Rey/Mary Sue to me and the supporting players either feel low wattage, derivative (the droid just feels too 3PO, the dry jokes changed in context because the new droid has some physical menace) or just not very Star Wars - this Imwe guy included. Remove the Star Wars stand tag from him and you'd never have guessed he was from a SW movie - same with the Ghostbusters guy (Base I think?)

Krennic I would have PO'ed in a heartbeat, but this guy - I dunno, Rey dragged around that pole thing in TFA, now this guy literally has a stick to "kill" armored stormtroopers. And to think people questioned the utility of stormtrooper armor with the Ewoks with arrows, rocks and clubs. Now we have Jyn with a small baton and this guy with his walking stick laying massacring a dozen of them.

Look, I get it - slap a Star Wars logo on it and it's a new classic we're all supposed to love it because it's filmed interacting with OT goodness, but some of it just doesn't pass muster to me.

I agree. I don't think most of these RO Characters have a look that blends with the OT at all. Most of the rebels look like they've just stepped out of Buck Rogers or something. It looks like they have changed the X wing pilots uniform slightly as well... Why?! Maybe so that Disney can claim fresh copyright on all
characters moving forward, like the new " tweaked" Stormtroopers.

 

[The_Ganner]

Maybe so that Disney can claim fresh copyright on all
characters moving forward, like the new " tweaked" Stormtroopers.

...They already have the full rights to anything related to Star Wars. They bought it wholesale from Lucas.

The stormtroopers already look different from 4 to 5 to 6. Small tweaks everytime. But suddenly Disney is making a movie and it seems people just want them re-use 40 year old props, because if Vaders cape is an inch longer in Rogue One than it is in Episode 4, people complain. If a droid, or type of tie-fighter, or cape or hairstyle wasn't already featured in the OT, people go: "That's not Star Wars!!".

Is there no enjoyment to be had from watching new Star Wars movies? New things on-screen?

 

[Adam1138]

...They already have the full rights to anything related to Star Wars. They bought it wholesale from Lucas.

The stormtroopers already look different from 4 to 5 to 6. Small tweaks everytime. But suddenly Disney is making a movie and it seems people just want them re-use 40 year old props, because if Vaders cape is an inch longer in Rogue One than it is in Episode 4, people complain. If a droid, or type of tie-fighter, or cape or hairstyle wasn't already featured in the OT, people go: "That's not Star Wars!!".

Is there no enjoyment to be had from watching new Star Wars movies? New things on-screen?

I hear you, and being a "Rivet counter" I'm well aware of all the different "tweaks" to the stormies and Vader etc through the OT. Maybe some of us are too critical of change and I realise that a lot of the original designs like the Stormtrooper were tweaked for RO to make them more "actor friendly" on set. But they just look so different to my eyes. I think it's the hours that probably amount to months I've spent of the last 39 years looking at OT screen grabs and behind the scenes pictures that I just can't Un-see them. I wish I could believe me.

 

[wadeit0ut]

I don't think most of these RO Characters have a look that blends with the OT at all. Most of the rebels look like they've just stepped out of Buck Rogers or something.

I really don't think most of you understand the premise of this movie. Andor is basically the only character of the main cast that is an established member of the rebellion. These are basically people brought in for one specific mission.

 

[TaliBane]

...They already have the full rights to anything related to Star Wars. They bought it wholesale from Lucas.

The stormtroopers already look different from 4 to 5 to 6. Small tweaks everytime. But suddenly Disney is making a movie and it seems people just want them re-use 40 year old props, because if Vaders cape is an inch longer in Rogue One than it is in Episode 4, people complain. If a droid, or type of tie-fighter, or cape or hairstyle wasn't already featured in the OT, people go: "That's not Star Wars!!".

Is there no enjoyment to be had from watching new Star Wars movies? New things on-screen?

I think what he meant by "fresh copyright" is the ability to sell a variant on stormtroopers in addition to regular ones.

And the OT stromtroopers were all the same mold (or molds of the same molds, slightly distorted) painted with minor differences (e.g. grey mouth vs black mouth.) But with RO they have revised the design completely - the goggles rounded more like sunglasses and earpieces totally different, codpiece narrowed considerably, torso/proportions different due to armor changes etc. Truthfully, it's actually fairly noticeable (more in a "something's off here" way than any one change standing out,) and when viewed up close and side by side with an OT stormie, these are quite obvious design changes, not "small tweaks."

And a cape being an inch longer? The RO Vader has few of the hallmarks of ANH Vader - look at the chest armor; in ANH it's matte/monochromatic black. In RO it is high gloss with zebra-like gunmetal and black stripes. Look at the helmet (high gloss/pristine instead of dulled/battle-scarred,) look at the puffy diaper codpiece - these are not "cape an inch longer" type stuff - they are obvious given that this is supposed to blend seamlessly with ANH Vader. People seem to think there's something that been added in reshoots to explain this pretty stark costume mismatch, but as it stands, not a single pic of Vader from RO matches the look of Vader in ANH. Yes, it's "Vader" to the casual fan, but not the same Vader you see 10 mins later in ANH.

The "enjoyment" of RO is the marketing hook - that it is supposed to end a few minutes before ANH begins. If you're going to have that be the idea of your "new Star Wars movie" why would you take it upon yourself to redesign the stormtrooper, when it's supposed to match the stormies that come onscreen a few minutes later in ANH?

It's like saying let's do a prequel to Ghostbusters that occurs a few days before GB1, but making the suits bright white and the backpacks metallic instead of biege/grey and black. With weathering and everything, will casual fans or kids notice the white suits and metallic backpacks and yell "that's not Ghostbusters!"? Probably not. But WHY NOT just match the suits that are in the movie that starts ten mins after your new movie ends? If RO took place 5 years before ANH or soemthing, there wouldn't be a problem - but it doesn't.

If you say it happens the same week as ANH but you change the designs on some of the most iconic costumes in film history (by saying the look of them was due "limitations" 40 years ago) then you are gonna spoil some of the "enjoyment" of fans who wanted to see those same iconic costumes in action onscreen again - as you'd expect with the movie set at the same time as ANH - not a retconned Ep3-looking Vader and "cute-face" stormtroopers wearing sunglasses.

 

[wadeit0ut]

I'd wait until we actually see what Vader is wearing at the end of the film before complaining about inconsistencies in ANH.

 

[Adam1138]

I really don't think most of you understand the premise of this movie. Andor is basically the only character of the main cast that is an established member of the rebellion. These are basically people brought in for one specific mission.

Sorry I didn't mean to confuse the debate by saying that the rogue group were all rebels. My point is that the continuity of the costumes is way off in relation to the look and feel of ANH. Can you really not see that? And Talibane is spot on. Why change so many areas of these iconic costumes so obviously when the film should Segway seamlessly into ANH? After all, that's what this film has supposedly been made to do.

 

[TaliBane]

I'd wait until we actually see what Vader is wearing at the end of the film before complaining about inconsistencies in ANH.

Yeah I heard the rumor that he deflates his diaper codpiece.

 

[wadeit0ut]

Sorry I didn't mean to confuse the debate by saying that the rogue group were all rebels. My point is that the continuity of the costumes is way off in relation to the look and feel of ANH. Can you really not see that? And Talibane is spot on. Why change so many areas of these iconic costumes so obviously when the film should Segway seamlessly into ANH? After all, that's what this film has supposedly been made to do.

All of the established members of the rebellion appear to be wearing garb very similar to those we see in the control room of ANH. So no, not really. If you are referring to the main characters in this film, they are all from backgrounds we didn't see in ANH.

Yeah I heard the rumor that he deflates his diaper codpiece.

Well if the actual rumor is correct whatever codpiece he has here is irrelevant to continuity.

 

[TaliBane]

Well if the actual rumor is correct whatever codpiece he has here is irrelevant to continuity.

If you're referring to the very recent comments by EP John Knoll, his comments really make little sense. His comments were described as "not official" so I've hinted at them here without the spoiler tag (his comments don't seem to relate to anything we will see onscreen anyway.)

Vader wears the same ultra-shiny, clean armor going into actual combat on Hoth as he does when commanding on the bridge of the Star Destroyer and going into what he surely must know is will be a major lightsaber battle with Luke. He wears the same ultra-shiny, clean armor going to Endor to face Luke (and he knows Rebel soldiers are there imminently preparing to attack) as he does to talk face to face with the Emperor.

So Knoll's comments are non-sensical and in essence confirm the retconning of Vader in RO and a deliberate decision to not match ANH despite the two movies sharing the same timeline - and they also show that he has only a vague understanding of the differences between the Vader helmets/outfits and the reasons for those differences (for example, he states they did a new sculpt of Vader's mask between ANH and ESB.)

 

[wadeit0ut]

If you're referring to the very recent comments by EP John Knoll, his comments really make little sense. His comments were described as "not official" so I've hinted at them here without the spoiler tag (his comments don't seem to relate to anything we will see onscreen anyway.)

Vader wears the same ultra-shiny, clean armor going into actual combat on Hoth as he does when commanding on the bridge of the Star Destroyer and going into what he surely must know is will be a major lightsaber battle with Luke. He wears the same ultra-shiny, clean armor going to Endor to face Luke (and he knows Rebel soldiers are there imminently preparing to attack) as he does to talk face to face with the Emperor.

So Knoll's comments are non-sensical and in essence confirm the retconning of Vader in RO and a deliberate decision to not match ANH despite the two movies sharing the same timeline - and they also show that he has only a vague understanding of the differences between the Vader helmets/outfits and the reasons for those differences (for example, he states they did a new sculpt of Vader's mask between ANH and ESB.)

No

Spoiler

I'm referring to the long running rumor that he changes his armor at a point in the film. We don't know the specifics of when in the film or why