You really typed all that. Wow. I made it through 4 linesFirst things first, the price. Considering how TW priced their Goblin, and now this one, ordering an Ock from my local place would come to 330-350€, taxes and all. Which is a fair enough price, I was expecting closer to 400 with the arms and everything. So on that front I'm more or less okay.
With that out of the way, we move onto the rest. From the neck and down it's pretty good. I can't really point any specific flaws. I guess the tentacles being plastic instead of diecast makes it less "high end", but they'd have driven up the price a lot. The head... yeah. It's bad. It looks better in the showcase pics, but the hair, the stupid grin, it's all just bad. Really bad. So bad it makes me fear that HT's slipping with all of the MCU/SW stuff they have on their plate. I don't know, they put up someone like Fennec and she looks great, meanwhile Ock looks like a 3rd-Party sculpt and the Dafoe tease didn't look much better either. I think at this point it's a matter of whether their heart's in it or not. If they like a character, they'll knock it out of the park. If not, you're ******.
Another thing to note is how blatantly different this version is from the SM2 look. It was evident from the moment he was revealed, don't get me wrong, as entire articles of clothing were changed, but the figure just drives it home much more. I look at it and, likeness aside, I see a realistic version of Doc Ock, but I don't see Ock from SM2. This is purely NWH Ock, and that's what he'd be in any collection. If you like the character in general this isn't a problem, since the turtleneck and greener shades scream "Doc Ock", but from a nostalgia standpoint it's not giving me the 'memberies. From a comicfan's standpoint I see a "cinematic Ock", certainly, and if I was still a big Spider-Fan I'd get it to round up my Spider-Villains, but as I've outgrown those characters and was only tempted by nostalgia... Tsk.
All that said... I'm kind of glad it's so mediocre? 350€ sounds like a "small" amount, especially if I break it to ~15€/month over a 16-month period like all the rest. But those amounts build up. It's a packed year. We've got Kenobi, Moon Knight, Battinson, Strange Cameo Madness, Black Panther 2, Black Adam and more, plus random one-offs. All featuring characters I ultimately like more than Ock. And while those POs keep coming, by the time you've paid one figure off in 1.5 years, you've POed another 15 with this model, and so on and so forth. 2023 is just as packed you know. Eventually the monthly amount goes from "eh, come on, it's basically a night out/x number of lunches" to 2 figures/car payment/mortgage per month. And that's not even talking about the space. It's too much and if you're not careful you can be swept away.
I'm just at that point where if something isn't an immediate and sure want, I find it easier and easier to let go. With Goblin I was debating it for a week or something, before finally passing on it, and that looked far more plasticy than Ock. But this time around I just looked at it and went "nope". I don't know, I feel that the more I get, the less special they become. I want each figure to be worthy of its place, and if I don't feel something when I look at the PO pics, then I drop it. You've got to curate your collection, not merely amass a number of them. If anything I feel guilty about dropping the same money on both favourite and completionist-only characters/figures. I feel it cheapens them. I spent more than a decade obsessed with Iron Man and I only have one figure. Can I really go around doing the same for characters I don't care for even half as much?
TL;DR If I were still a Spider-Fan I'd probably get it because even if the HS isn't great, it still looks like a solid representation of Ock, and it's not as expensive as I'd thought. But as nostalgia-bait, it's far too different. It's not transporting me back to the early 00s so it's a failure as far as I'm concerned!
Joking aside, I'd honestly get it if I just wanted a good Ock representation on my shelf. A generic, AU kind of Ock to flank my Spider-Man. Beyond that though... Yeah, no.
PS: Is it just me or do both this and the teased Dafoe sculpt look of a lower quality? Too plasticy, too smooth, without the final realistic skin layer of sorts.
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Seems to me like they probably rushed to get these up for PO to capitalise on the movie hype.
Hoping they improve but will not be ordering until I see evidence of it.
Hoping they improve but will not be ordering until I see evidence of it.
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I feel they rushed to reveal this figure out due to fans wanting these figures already for preorder. They knew they can't keep holding them back as the year goes on with so much new content coming for other movies and shows. So wouldn't be surprised for Andrew and Tobey if they get the blurred out like Norman. Just to get the preorders going before they have to move on from No Way Home to focus on other projects.
I've seen far worse likenesses in Hot Toys figures, but I wouldn't rank this as their finest hour. Would still get it if I were into buying bad guys, but. . .we've all got to draw a line somewhere.
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That’s an insult to the TE head. At least that one evoked the spirit of the character in SM2 and his expression adds a layer of intimidation to his already imposing form.
This guy ain’t messing around.
Goggles for the win!!
The NWH design just makes me sad that they changed the outer jacket but all the tailoring on HTs looks pretty fantastic; enough so that I would allow their supposedly superior quality to surpass my attachment to the SM2 look and I’ll let the best made figure become my display Doc.
Also, something about that turtle neck just works better for a once highly revered scientist than an exposed, kind of blubbery middle-aged chest.
‘Upgrading’ is now dependant on that head being more than just tweaked- it needs to change- a lot. HT really went all in on that comic styled bowl cut too and it did not turn out well. Maybe once people start rooting the sculpts it’ll make a huge improvement?
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It's not their best face, but nowhere near as bad as a lot of people are saying, and they'll improve it in the year and a half before it comes out. Though I'd be perfectly happy having this version on my shelf. Excited that the nano arms are optional and seriously can't wait to have him and Goblin next to the Integrated Suit, plus anyone else they might make.
For sure. One thing I do like about it is: looks more like the comic version of the character, but c'mon HT...we're paying a premium here.
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This has to be some kind of joke....
That headsculpt would work great for a custom Butthead figure.
That headsculpt would work great for a custom Butthead figure.
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SS has it up $330 for regular, $360 for deluxe
https://www.sideshow.com/collectibles/marvel-doc-ock-hot-toys-910332?var=910332
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So the terrible head and glasses aside...
No LEDs in the tentacle hands, huh? That's kind of a surprising omission.
Not gonna lie, I do kinda like the look of the nano-tech tentacles better - adds a nice contrast against the olive coat. Wouldn't pay extra for them though.
I'm guessing the tentacle arms aren't sturdy enough to support him like this without the stand, so I wish they had included a clear acrylic rod instead of the black dynamic flight pole.
No LEDs in the tentacle hands, huh? That's kind of a surprising omission.
Not gonna lie, I do kinda like the look of the nano-tech tentacles better - adds a nice contrast against the olive coat. Wouldn't pay extra for them though.
I'm guessing the tentacle arms aren't sturdy enough to support him like this without the stand, so I wish they had included a clear acrylic rod instead of the black dynamic flight pole.
Thanks for the link. That pricing makes no sense; if four extra tentacles only cost $30, then why is the base price $330 instead of $300?
I feel confusion as I wonder why in hell they would not give him a serious, determined expression. Ock is usually not a jovial guy. Or if he is, its a sarcastic, menacing joviality.
I miss the welder's goggles the S-M2 version sported. In fact imo that version of the character was vastly superior. Flame away, I said it.
I miss the welder's goggles the S-M2 version sported. In fact imo that version of the character was vastly superior. Flame away, I said it.
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I actually love the expression - makes the figure far more dynamic. They were seemingly going for that, "Hello, Peter" smirk from the original trailer reveal. It just looks nothing like Alfred Molina.
Ok so add $60 dollars to TW second batch prices to get to SS prices. Wow. Was hoping this was $300.
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Name one. I easily think this is the worst I've seen, at least in quite a few years.
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My thoughts exactly. Maybe the segments on the tentacles are thicker on the figure? Or perhaps the sculpted details on each segment are softer which makes the tentacles appear simpler?
On that front, I'll add to what Spanbauer said: the nanotech tentacles not only pop against the colors of the coat, but the extra sculpted bits add some nice breakup and give them a more detailed look. Unless Hot Toys revisit the standard tentacles to make them match the diorama base, those who want more detail on their tentacles may be better served by the deluxe.
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Even with the red accents, I get more of a SM2 vibe from this display than from looking at the standard. You get more prominent yellows too, which harken back to the original design.
Yikes. The more I look at that sculpt, the more alien it looks... I'm glad JC said its not final, but that doesn't exactly fill me with confidence either. They must have thought it was good if they revealed it without blurring it.
They've botched more than enough sculpts that most collectors won't touch this until the final product is shown.
I'm also having a hard time even deciding if I want this or not since we'll probably never see him again. I guess it was too much to expect NWH to be the setup for the MCU sinister six. After all these years, the one thing that bugs me most about the MCU is their tendency to kill off villains after one appearance.
They've botched more than enough sculpts that most collectors won't touch this until the final product is shown.
I'm also having a hard time even deciding if I want this or not since we'll probably never see him again. I guess it was too much to expect NWH to be the setup for the MCU sinister six. After all these years, the one thing that bugs me most about the MCU is their tendency to kill off villains after one appearance.
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