1/6 Hot Toys - POTC5 - Jack Sparrow Figure (Artisan Edition + Regular) Collectible Figure

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I’m a simple man. I’ll settle with this new DMTNT version for the indefinite future. If (and possibly when) HT makes the ideal COTBP Jack/a DMC main look/AWE 2.0, then I’ll sell off the current DMTNT version and upgrade. No big deal. No stress.

For now, I’m just happy to have the character representation in the collection and it’s a nice figure all things considered. It was always going to be a standalone piece, so I have no worries to mismatch with other characters that wouldn’t even go with DMTNT Jack anyway.
 
Even to get every single detail right from a movie is hard you wont find that on a stock figure, you proberly have to go the custom route. I mentioned this before there are many differences from scene to scene in a movie becouse it wasnt shot in one way through. So the clothing/weathering/make up/hair could vary in scenes. Maybe if you want to create a specific scene from that movie its more do able. Still a difficult thing to achieve.

Dont get me wrong. Its awesome to have a piece that is accurate all the way. But there's a big price tag to achieve that.
For real, the money I've blown just picking up random 1/6 stuff to accessorize or kitbash with. Sure am glad I picked up some tavern mugs last summer.😁 Those weren't too bad, but like a nice bow was over 20$.

Just trying to replicate the pattern on the bandana or the sash fabric would be insane. I might take a shot at making a leather hat at some point tho. There's patterns around that could be scaled down.

Aside, really like the hands on this one. Not too stiff, not too soft so he can hold stuff and the fingers don't break off.
 
I mean if he keeps drinking his money away he'll eventually need one of those big fat Disney pay checks.

I'm in the never say never group.

How bout Disney gets Lily Rose on board for a Pirate film. Cast her as Jacks daughter. Get him to come back for one more handing the torch so to speak. I'd be ok with that.
He might do it for the fans. Depp is nice like that. Visits hospitals, pranks fans. But Disney is gonna have to eat some humble pie.
 
Ideally, I would’ve loved a COTBP Jack, but since I don’t have that, I don’t really care if this new DMTNT figure isn’t as nice as it possibly can be. Hopefully the DX06 (or a custom run) hat is the only mod(s) I’ll be investing in. I’ll have to live with its stock shortcomings like the unpainted palm glove, fake waistcoat buttons, and other inaccuracies it has.

In fact, I actually like how Hot Toys didn’t even give him the DMTNT blonde hair it’s supposed to have and other details, which results in a more generic decked out Jack look. I’ll take their ineptitude in this case.

If this were the ideal COTBP (or even DMC/AWE) version, I’d definitely have gone for the Artisan wool treatment, but in this case? Eh. I don’t think it makes much sense to go “all out” for a character design that isn’t even the ideal/or desired one. Besides, the sculpted offering looks good enough and in ways, is more accurate (I am coming around on the Artisan with the more footage I see of it for the record).
 
How bout Disney gets Lily Rose on board for a Pirate film. Cast her as Jacks daughter. Get him to come back for one more handing the torch so to speak. I'd be ok with that.

Shame on you... I can totally see that happening.

One thing's for certain: Disney and Depp both LOVE (and need) money... so Jack will be back!
 
I believe Disney have or will patch things up with Depp due to the fact Depp and Bob Igor are actually good friends.

I also believe Depps alpaca and Disney comment was sarcasm, especially as he's since visited hospitals as Jack Sparrow! A clear indication he still loves Jack Sparrow!
 
I feel like if they were able to do COTBP Jack they would’ve done one by now, but that would be cool if they were to. I wonder if it’s a case of them not being able to get that specific movie license which would be strange. I remember that with JND they wanted to Raiders Indy but Disney would only allow them the license to the Last Crusade. I’ll be interested to see which movie they do their 1/3 statue based on.

I’m just glad Hot toys didn’t decide to make a Genisys Terminator first and make us wait on doing T2 lol.
 
Idc I'm in for all versions. But I'd sell off this and any other if a COTBP version was made as that is what got me into the films as a kid and having fond memories of when Jack was a great character. He still is but R.R.X was right he became more of a joke in the last film and I prefer him as he was in the trilogy.
 
I think they were about to lose the license so they made this Jack to keep it and to make a new Artisan figure. They reused a lot of their old molds on this so it was not a whole lot effort and why he released so fast now that I think about it. The figure seems to have sold very well and is in high demand in China and overseas, whether Hot Toys thinks that would justify getting the license for other characters is entirely up to them. I personally don't think they will but I'd love to be wrong. If they want to reuse molds I'd reckon they could pretty much reuse every accessory and crab parts from their old Davy Jones release and just make a new head, base and clothes.

I don't know why the reason for only exploiting the appearance of the last movie... if it's a licensing issue or what you say precisely that it's easier for Hot Toys with this one because a lot is reused and the new update in tailoring is to improve an already created pattern. Less laborious than creating the appearance of COTBP from scratch for example... but Jack and the Johnny Depp figure sell a lot in Asia and Jack Sparrow is one of the characters that sells very well and that has been very profitable for Hot Toys.
What was said about differences in the suit and perfection, even this DMTNT version would not be perfect. Hot Toys tends to stylize the appearance a lot and above all they do it a lot with Jack. In DMTNT Johnny looks even more aged and has a more bloated appearance.
 
Idc I'm in for all versions. But I'd sell off this and any other if a COTBP version was made as that is what got me into the films as a kid and having fond memories of when Jack was a great character. He still is but R.R.X was right he became more of a joke in the last film and I prefer him as he was in the trilogy.
Although I enjoyed it as an adventure movie, the epicness of the character was completely ruined in this last one. He seemed more like a parody... drunk and overacting all the time, he doesn't get to do anything on his own and he relies so much on the supporting characters that it seems like a reboot of the first story with Will and Elisabeth. What bothered me the most was the changes in the Lore of the first trilogy.
 
If I’m allowed to speculate, I simply think they didn’t want to obtain/pursue/negotiate the more costly COTBP license and instead renewed the DMTNT license they already had to be cost-efficient. I mean that’s what the community says right? That current licenses have a time limit and expire.

Who knows. Disney obviously has their say here and it all comes down to how the contracts are set up.

Hot Toys has a history of being complacent and whatnot, so that’s why I’m cynical about them. They must know that most of their consumer base won’t really care if it’s not a specific look. And sure enough, the majority didn’t and still don’t care. “It’s still Jack.” Hot Toys doesn't mind taking advantage of their consumer base when they know they can get away with it, if it means saving more money. Everyone talks about this Artisan Jack release like it’s the best thing ever and hardly anyone (aside from a few handful of us) mentions that it’s from Dead Men Tell No Tales and that they’re disappointed it wasn’t another more ideal look.

It’s Hot Toys MO. Most think it’s all part of a plan to release the undesirable iteration first to milk your wallet when the ideal version is finally made. Imo, I think it’s something that can be handled upfront and Hot Toys simply don’t do it out of being more cost-efficient without regard in giving the people what they know they want.

Just spitballing here. And I’m basing my speculation (just like everyone else speculates) from what they’ve shown me and I’ve observed in the past.
 
I don't know why the reason for only exploiting the appearance of the last movie... if it's a licensing issue or what you say precisely that it's easier for Hot Toys with this one because a lot is reused and the new update in tailoring is to improve an already created pattern. Less laborious than creating the appearance of COTBP from scratch for example... but Jack and the Johnny Depp figure sell a lot in Asia and Jack Sparrow is one of the characters that sells very well and that has been very profitable for Hot Toys.
What was said about differences in the suit and perfection, even this DMTNT version would not be perfect. Hot Toys tends to stylize the appearance a lot and above all they do it a lot with Jack. In DMTNT Johnny looks even more aged and has a more bloated appearance.
I agree with all that but Hot Toys is a business first and foremost, they will not prioritize minute details over profit unfortunately, hence why most of the stuff in this release is reused from the DX06 and DX15 releases. I'm still surprised they even made a new Jack Sparrow to begin and Disney allowed them to, given all the discourse surrounding Depp, Heard and Disney. As far as the head sculpts I've just gotten used to their idealized style, they don't like rough sculpts and I've noticed that a lot of Asian collectors don't like them either. On some Chinese forums some of them think Jack's syphilis patch, which is really toned down in the new sculpts, is a factory defect. 😅

With all that said, I'd happily sell this new DMTNT Jack if Hot Toys, or maybe someday InArt, ever make a superior offering based on the trilogy. We'll just have to see what the future holds regarding Depp, Disney and the franchise. In the meantime I'll keep praying we see a new Davy Jones one day. :pray:
 
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The battery warning is a sticker, I will have to hit it with the blow dryer.

EDIT: I'm happy to report the sticker is terrible at its job sticking to things, and very easy to remove. And it doesn't even leave any sticky residue.
 
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I agree with all that but Hot Toys is a business first and foremost, they will not prioritize minute details over profit unfortunately, hence why most of the stuff in this release is reused from the DX06 and DX15 releases. I'm still surprised they even made a new Jack Sparrow to begin and Disney allowed them to, given all the discourse surrounding Depp, Heard and Disney. As far as the head sculpts I've just gotten used to their idealized style, they don't like rough sculpts and I've noticed that a lot of Asian collectors don't like them either. On some Chinese forums some of them think Jack's syphilis patch, which is really toned down in the new sculpts, is a factory defect. 😅

With all that said, I'd happily sell this new DMTNT Jack if Hot Toys, or maybe someday InArt, ever make a superior offering based on the trilogy. We'll just have to see what the future holds regarding Depp, Disney and the franchise. In the meantime I'll keep praying we see a new Davy Jones one day. :pray:

Of course, Hot Toys is looking out for the business and if they can, they will make money with the least effort possible because they know they will sell anyway... in recent years they had become too lazy reusing sculpts over and over again and with production finishes with smoothed sculptures and very flat paints... The arrival of Inart and new companies with new innovations in the market is what has made them wake up and try harder. Competition has been very good for 1/6 collecting to continue evolving. For that reason, if Inart entered the game, there could be competition with very good options.
Something that makes me suspect that it may be a licensing issue is the "Davy Jones" issue because the first version is very revalued today and is a very sought after character and a great candidate for a 2.0 version.
 
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That is what I'm betting on also. And it will be what sets off HT, and they'll attempt to make one themselves due to ego. I feel InArt can make an amazing COTBP Jack and it will be the definitive version.
That’d be the dream. Although, I think it’s a pipe dream seeing as Disney has speculatively given Hot Toys and Sideshow the exclusive rights to Disney 1/6 licenses.

Who knows, I’d love for the contracts to be breached and for all parties to agree on allowing INART to get into the mix. I know John w/ INART has mentioned it’s an extensive and laboring process trying to obtain Disney, and I bet it’s cause the contracts would need to be restructured and renegotiated. If so, it would mean Hot Toys would have to agree to terms, but I can’t help but think they’ll do whatever they can to block INART from obtaining the Disney licenses. It’s not the first time they’ve ran off other competitors in 1/6 movie stuff (See: Enterbay). Great thing is that INART has demonstrated they’re here to stay given their work with WB properties so far.
 
That is what I'm betting on also. And it will be what sets off HT, and they'll attempt to make one themselves due to ego. I feel InArt can make an amazing COTBP Jack and it will be the definitive version.
InArt would have to get the license and likeness approval from Depp (if other people's speculation is to be believed). And if Depp ain't signing off on any HT COTBP/DMC/AWE product, he won't be signing off on ANY company. If HT can't do it. No one will be able to do it. If we are going with that theory.
 
If I’m allowed to speculate, I simply think they didn’t want to obtain/pursue/negotiate the more costly COTBP license and instead renewed the DMTNT license they already had to be cost-efficient. I mean that’s what the community says right? That current licenses have a time limit and expire.

Who knows. Disney obviously has their say here and it all comes down to how the contracts are set up.

Hot Toys has a history of being complacent and whatnot, so that’s why I’m cynical about them. They must know that most of their consumer base won’t really care if it’s not a specific look. And sure enough, the majority didn’t and still don’t care. “It’s still Jack.” Hot Toys doesn't mind taking advantage of their consumer base when they know they can get away with it, if it means saving more money. Everyone talks about this Artisan Jack release like it’s the best thing ever and hardly anyone (aside from a few handful of us) mentions that it’s from Dead Men Tell No Tales and that they’re disappointed it wasn’t another more ideal look.

It’s Hot Toys MO. Most think it’s all part of a plan to release the undesirable iteration first to milk your wallet when the ideal version is finally made. Imo, I think it’s something that can be handled upfront and Hot Toys simply don’t do it out of being more cost-efficient without regard in giving the people what they know they want.

Just spitballing here. And I’m basing my speculation (just like everyone else speculates) from what they’ve shown me and I’ve observed in the past.
Why should folks who don't mind if it's "not a specific look" and just a spectacular figure say anything, except be happy that their money was well spent and this figure - at least mine - came out of the box proto quality? This is a character whose look evolved/tweaked through a series of films, probably thanks to the personal input of the actor involved. I suspect Depp was having a lot of fun working with the costumers. Probably selected all the beads etc. himself because he wears that kind of thing in real life.

And I don't know that "most think" - besides unknown licensing issues. As far as I know, licensing is very specific. You can only make/distribute what a license says unless you are the 3rd parties that shall not be named.:monkey3 And collectors IMO, to a degree, cause releases by themselves. Folks often want the fig from the last movie which in theory is always the better figure (and this sculpt is certainly an improvement from early Jack efforts). DMTNT made ~800 million global box office, so we're not talking a bomb here. Who knows from merch and streaming. For all we know, the COTBP license is the cheapest, being ~20 year old film.

Like, I'm not ditching my latest Obi fig (great fig:love) because of a lackluster script. And I sure don't feel taken advantage of.

Make a product I like and I'll buy it, nobody threatened me. So if it's a conspiracy to get my money, HT can carry on. That may annoy people who regularly sell/trade figs for the "best" version but I never buy for anything but enjoyment. (Nobody threatened me into getting the SW Artisan either; even tho I own the original CW version). Finally, the later Jacks having a more elaborate costume/hair justifies a higher price. The COTBP figure would be easier to output; but so - maybe you want an elaborate base/accessories. But not everyone wants that or has the room.

I'm just hard pressed to think that the HT folks are sitting around scheming that 5 years from now, they'll release the "ultimate" Jack Sparrow. Well maybe.:lol The 25th Anniversary version:monkey3. But will their "typical" consumer want to spend $700-$1,000 on a character from a movie ~25 years old, by then. I'm sure HT thinks about that too.
 
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