1/6th silicon joker head in works

[aussieinnyc]

Just had a chance to glance through the last few pages. I have to say these Joker sculpts are great. I would have to agree however that the two featured below dont even look like the same sculpt underneath the makeup. The first one posted is almost perfect as the one below leaves a alot to be desired. Not sure if its the angle, lighting, or what exactly. It sounds like alot of you fellas are trying to convince yourselves about the sculpt. Just my two cents.

Take a look at the rest of those pictures, not just the sculpt/paint work. Notice how you can see white flecks of dust on the coat of the "bad" version? There's a difference in quality alright, but it's in the quality of the photo and lighting used - one great, the other good. The quality of artistry of the actual item photographed remains constant - ie mind-blowingly fantastic.

 

[meth head]

Take a look at the rest of those pictures, not just the sculpt/paint work. Notice how you can see white flecks of dust on the coat of the "bad" version? There's a difference in quality alright, but it's in the quality of the photo and lighting used - one great, the other good. The quality of artistry of the actual item photographed remains constant - ie mind-blowingly fantastic.

Simples

 

[neo]

Gonna take good pictures tonight with futzing

I post these pics very fast to show you yesterday..

 

[meth head]

Gonna take good pictures tonight with futzing

I post these pics very fast to show you yesterday..

No no no he meant yours is the good picture neo

 

[aussieinnyc]

Yeah, please no one take offence - I very specifically didn't say good vs bad photography, but great vs good!

EDITED TO ADD:
I'm no photography expert - there's a reason why there are very few photos of my collection! - what it looks like to me is that there's light reflecting off some of the hairs, off some of the wrinkles within the black paint (which had a slight gloss in the film, so that's accurate) and because these details are so fine in person, and so magnified in the pictures, it is showing up as defects rather than reflection.

The top pic has a deeper depth of focus too, so all the details remain crisp, whereas the one at the bottom has a really small depth of field, so the out of focus areas, while a nice artistic effect, again look wrong because blur detail at that high of a magnification and you will distort the impact of the image. If this were a film shoot you'd actually have the hair stylist doing some pretty drastic changes to the actor's hair style to stop what we see here - ie random parts of the hairstyle being in focus along with the eyes (GREAT focus on the eyes neo!) but that looking a bit odd since more important parts of the face like the jawline are out of focus.

Someone correct me if I'm way off base.

 

[neo]

Yeah, please no one take offence - I very specifically didn't say good vs bad photography, but great vs good!

I didn't take offense
No worries! I just saying that better pics are coming

 

[meth head]

Yeah, please no one take offence - I very specifically didn't say good vs bad photography, but great vs good!

Yeah i knew exactly what you meant, but i think you referred to the interrogation scene pic as the great one yes?

 

[lforigno]

Was gonna say. Yours are moveable then Lance?

Pretty sure rest are fixed Blake.

the eyes are set in place and cannot be moved. As Bob mentioned above I live very close to him so they could have been changed before being set.

 

[cr0w]

Cameras, especially super duper high resolution ones used today, always pick up imperfections that aren't really visible to the naked eye unless you're looking at it from a half inch away. Look at HT's Joker sculpts. There's a pitted texture to the skin that cameras pick up on easily, but when you're looking at them in person, it's hard to notice unless you're specifically looking for it. I'm guessing, as someone who doesn't have one of these, that's the case here.

Now, on the other side, this is a discussion forum and I would hope that differing opinions would be welcomed or, if not, ignored if you just don't agree with them. Those of you who spent a great deal of money on these things, and let's be honest, just can't be objective about the heads at all. And there's nothing wrong with that. But those who are on the outside looking in are looking through a different set of eyes that aren't having to look through a large amount of currency to see.

Are the heads perfect? No. Unless it's Heath Ledger's actual head shrunken down to 1/6 scale, nothing's going to be. Are they close? Closer than almost anything released in this scale to date.

So just step back, embrace the spirit of discussion, and don't worry if someone doesn't share your opinion. This isn't He-Man.org, where it's a policy that you can make a "PROTECTED" thread that people with opinions differing from yours aren't allowed to post in. Let's hope it stays that way.

 

[intothevoid]

Hey lance that shot of yours looks amazing...

 

[aussieinnyc]

Yeah i knew exactly what you meant, but i think you referred to the interrogation scene pic as the great one yes?

Um. Ye-es.... Sure. Let's go with that.

 

[lforigno]

Hey lance that shot of yours looks amazing...

thanks buddy

 

[Rorywan]

Yeah i knew exactly what you meant, but i think you referred to the interrogation scene pic as the great one yes?

Think he was referring to the top one, my one....

 

[Rorywan]

Cameras, especially super duper high resolution ones used today, always pick up imperfections that aren't really visible to the naked eye unless you're looking at it from a half inch away. Look at HT's Joker sculpts. There's a pitted texture to the skin that cameras pick up on easily, but when you're looking at them in person, it's hard to notice unless you're specifically looking for it. I'm guessing, as someone who doesn't have one of these, that's the case here.

Now, on the other side, this is a discussion forum and I would hope that differing opinions would be welcomed or, if not, ignored if you just don't agree with them. Those of you who spent a great deal of money on these things, and let's be honest, just can't be objective about the heads at all. And there's nothing wrong with that. But those who are on the outside looking in are looking through a different set of eyes that aren't having to look through a large amount of currency to see.

Are the heads perfect? No. Unless it's Heath Ledger's actual head shrunken down to 1/6 scale, nothing's going to be. Are they close? Closer than almost anything released in this scale to date.

So just step back, embrace the spirit of discussion, and don't worry if someone doesn't share your opinion. This isn't He-Man.org, where it's a policy that you can make a "PROTECTED" thread that people with opinions differing from yours aren't allowed to post in. Let's hope it stays that way.

Also, I think a little patience is required. Only two of us seem to have posted pics here so far of inhand heads. You might note that I said the head is very different in hand than when photographed. They do look a little rough around the edges. In person. Photographed correctly they look amazing. But I could post lots of shots from my earlier session where the head looked quite messy. I did not want to because I didn't want to put a downer on everyone else who has not gotten theirs yet. I'm sure Neo felt the same if he is honest.

Admitedly my head is not as messy as Neo's but it's still dotty paint on silicone rubber. I think Crow hit the nail on the head, these are not actually Heath Ledger heads. They are rubber and paint. But they are the closest any of us have seen to reality. I think the 1/3s will be incredible.

Teddy? and you other guys lucky enough to be getting them? Wait until u have them in hand to say if you are happy with them or not. Opening them is a mixed experience of WOW! then mmmmmmm... They are sooo close to being perfect "living" representations of The Joker. But the imperfections are more obvious because of that. Little bits of peeling paint, rough around the scalp and ears. These are HANDMADE.
I like them more for that.

But lets be realistic, that is the best we are going to see for a long time. And these are without doubt worth the money.
Thumbs up Bobby.


THIS IS JUST MY OPINION!

 

[cr0w]

Bingo. They are hand made and will have imperfections, but it adds to the personality of the sculpt.

One thing people also need to realize, especially if they haven't had any experience painting things like this, is that the makeup is extremely hard to get perfect at 1/6 scale. I've been working on my Adam Joker head since I first got it, basically, and I'm just now at a point where I'm happy with the paint job. And it's still not perfect. The white paint is very, very hard to work with if Bobby's using acrylics (which I think he is), because it dries almost instantly and if you use too much, it cakes up and you have to start over. If you use too little, it doesn't give the desired makeup look. White and red acrylic paints can be really hard to work with at this scale because of that issue.

Oil paints, if they were used, are an entirely different matter because they take up to 15 days to dry and the slightest contact will mess them up.

Again, the camera will catch a whole lot more than your eye will, especially when it comes to the paint. As a painter myself, I'll say Bobby did a hell of a job with the painting of these sculpts, especially considering he had 10 of them to do. I've been working on ONE, like I said, for months now. It's hard nailing the makeup at this scale.

 

[neo]

And the silicone is really REALLY soft

 

[cr0w]

Yeah. It's not at all like painting a resin or plastic or whatever head. Truth be told the only thing I feel like complaining about is the masturbatory sig group, but even then I understand the reasoning behind it. But hey, that's my own aversion to cliquish behavior and no one's issue but my own.

Oh boy that came out wrong.

 

[Rorywan]

Aah it's only for a laugh isn't it? Isn't it?
I know my cheesy Halloween pumpkin mask sig is only on short vacation.

!

 

[cr0w]

I honestly have no idea. Maybe I've been hanging around the G.I. Joe section too long and expect everyone to be an elitist ******.

 

[Rorywan]

Ha haaaa.
Jesus, I hope no one is taking it seriously!