82nd ACADEMY AWARD Nominations

[LOTRFan]

The hobbit will bring it back for a bit but it will just die again except for the extreme loyalists.

I am ok with that personally, I would rather purity to the franchise than umpteen forms of merchandise like chopsticks and tennis shoes.

 

[IrishJedi]

I am ok with that personally, I would rather purity to the franchise than umpteen forms of merchandise like chopsticks and tennis shoes.

Can't say I disagree there. There's definitely a garish downside to huge mainstream/cultural popularity.

 

[karamazov80]

Can't say I disagree there. There's definitely a garish downside to huge mainstream/cultural popularity.

True, it allows crap like this to be made.

 

[barbelith]

Your kidding right?

No, I'm not. Few people talk about this movie now, and virtually nobody is going to be talking about it a year from now. We may be defining "impact" differently, but I think there's a very real difference between stunts during hype mode and any sort of lasting presence. Of course there are going to be jokes and references on chat shows etc ... but who here thinks balloon boy had a cultural impact? Give me a break.

I still don't know a single person in real life who can name a character from Avatar. That says a hell of a lot.

 

[IrishJedi]

The biggest impact it's had on culture is that now most people think about this movie when they hear the name "Avatar" and not a little bald, tatoo'd anime kid.

 

[Kuzeh]

So now, we have yet another thread about how Avatar "sucks"...

 

[barbelith]

So now, we have yet another thread about how Avatar "sucks"...

How bizarre that anything short of orgasmic praise is seen as "sucks."

 

[IrishJedi]

So now, we have yet another thread about how Avatar "sucks"...

Really? Where??

Oh yeah, I forgot... if you dispute any notion of the movie being an impactful godsend then that means you think it "sucks".

I've rated the movie an 8 out of 10. Clearly I think it's an utter piece of crap.

 

[karamazov80]

My perspective here has nothing to do with whether or not Avatar sucks. It is whether or not Avatar is a huge cultural phenomenon. Personal likes or dislikes don't come into the picture.

 

[IrishJedi]

My perspective here has nothing to do with whether or not Avatar sucks. It is whether or not Avatar is a huge cultural phenomenon. Personal likes or dislikes don't come into the picture.

That is the topic of discussion at the moment. Reading comprehension is advised.

 

[barbelith]

Reading comprehension is advised.

Let's not be too hasty! This is an Internet toy forum.

 

[Kuzeh]

How bizarre that anything short of orgasmic praise is seen as "sucks."

Nah, it's not that...
it just that some people here just like to flood threads trying to validate their point...

Let's not be too hasty! This is an Internet toy forum.

That was pretty funny actually...

 

[Shai]

Avatar 2/10

 

[LChinoz]

I tend to agree that this is not a debate, but for a completely different reason. No one has given me any real examples apart from a few isolated nut-jobs and some jokes made on late night television. Again, that does not represent "cultural impact" to me. To reiterate, I don't think there is enough evidence one way or the other yet, because you can't know the impact of something when it just came out a few months ago. However, if you want to suggest that this is the case, you're gonna need to present more evidence than some loonies dressed up like buffoons protesting issue X.

You say "the jokes, spoofs, and everyone knowing what it is." Well, that simply shows that people know about something. So what? Everyone knew about Elian Gonzales and made jokes about him at one point, but what type of broad cultural impact did that have? Or Terri Shiavo? Or the guy who Oprah embarrassed for lying? Or that British actor who was caught with a transvestite prostitute? Just events that come and go, and that's that.

I think your standards may be too high. Elian Gonzales and Terri Shiavo both had a cultural impact...a big one. To brush these stories off as events that "come and go" with the likes of paparazzi stories of Hugh Grant's prostitute is troubling. I am not arguing that the news media does not control what stories we pay attention to (most would agree they do), but nevertheless both the Shiavo and Gonzales stories were not just "known," but did have a significant impact, giving birth to reactions all across the world.

What exactly does a film need to do for you to agree it has had a cultural impact? Avatar has transformed the 3D film from a gimmick to an viable, profit-making tool for films in the future. If you are waiting for a new powerhouse religion to emerge from a film's impact then you will be waiting a long time, these are only movies after all. By your standards even Star Wars has not had a cultural impact, because beyond people "knowing about it," albeit for a long time, what else is there? No worldwide powerhouse Jedi religion basking at the greatness of the savior, Mark Hamil.

Star Wars has had a significant cultural impact, and so has Avatar up to this point. Like I said, it is only debatable if you want a film to bring about nirvana across the world before it has a cultural impact. Besides that, I first brought up cultural phenomenon, not impact. Something that has taken the world by storm. Like it or not, Avatar has done this, as has Twilight and Titanic. If you want to debate the longevity of Avatar's impact, that is another story.

 

[BadMoon]

How has Avatar impacted our culture as of right now?

 

[LChinoz]

No, I'm not. Few people talk about this movie now, and virtually nobody is going to be talking about it a year from now. We may be defining "impact" differently, but I think there's a very real difference between stunts during hype mode and any sort of lasting presence. Of course there are going to be jokes and references on chat shows etc ... but who here thinks balloon boy had a cultural impact? Give me a break.

I still don't know a single person in real life who can name a character from Avatar. That says a hell of a lot.

No it doesn't. I know like, lots and lots and lots of people who can name a character from Avatar, so nanny nanny boo boo. My information is just as valid as yours. And to say few people talk about Avatar reveals you are teetering on delusion. There is a reason why it broke box office records, WORD OF MOUTH. I must say that there sure is a lot you think you know though, like how nobody is going to talk about it in a year's time. What are the lottery numbers there in 2011?

 

[LChinoz]

How has Avatar impacted our culture as of right now?

See my previous post in this thread, as well as Dusty's.

 

[Shai]

My _____ has an impact on french canadian women.

 

[LChinoz]

My _____ has an impact on french canadian women.

Cue the STD jokes. I'll start. Did they need medication and a tiny comb to fix the "impact"?

 

[Shai]

Cue the STD jokes. I'll start. Did they need medication and a tiny comb to fix the "impact"?

No but they needed a surgery to repair their ____.