Aliens,Predator and Terminator Q&A (Anything!)

[tylerdurden]

hey, hey they finally stickied this thread. good move, mods. cheers!

imo, this thread is a pretty good source of info, not just for us collectors, but outsiders as well.

 

[EndIessRAlN]

Wow finally. Awesome.

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

So, The T-101, Arnies skin covering. Was it originally human? Like the harvester captured a resistance fighter that looked like Arnie? Thoughts.....

 

[Blackhole]

So, The T-101, Arnies skin covering. Was it originally human? Like the harvester captured a resistance fighter that looked like Arnie? Thoughts.....

In the deleted scenes of T3, there's a stupid scene of Sgt William Candy, some dumbass from the army with AHNULD's appearance, apparently donating his likeness to their research...the voice is taken from some other guy who worked at CRS...

In the books, it's the skin of some CIA agent...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

In the deleted scenes of T3, there's a stupid scene of Sgt William Candy, some dumbass from the army with AHNULD's appearance, apparently donating his likeness to their research...the voice is taken from some other guy who worked at CRS...

In the books, it's the skin of some CIA agent...

Oh, thats kinda boring What book says it's the skin of a CIA agent?

 

[Blackhole]

Oh, thats kinda boring What book says it's the skin of a CIA agent?

T2: Infiltrator. The guy is called Dieter von Rossbach...

Of course, that's all down to which canon you choose to go with, either way though, AHNULD is THE TERMINATOR...

 

[SilentSurfer]

So, The T-101, Arnies skin covering. Was it originally human? Like the harvester captured a resistance fighter that looked like Arnie? Thoughts.....

I choose to go with T1 as my canon since it is the reason we have any of this stuff at all.

The skin on the model 101 is not from anybody harvested. It was grown for the T-800s by Skynet.

"The Terminator is an infiltration unit. Part man, part machine. Underneath it’s a hyper alloy combat chasis. Micro processor controlled. Fully armored. Very tough. But outside it’s living, human tissue. Flesh, skin, hair, blood, grown for the cyborgs. The 600 series had rubber skin; we spotted them easy. But these are new; they look human. Sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait til he moved on you before I could zero him." -Kyle Reese the Terminator

 

[Blackhole]

I choose to go with T1 as my canon since it is the reason we have any of this stuff at all.

The skin on the model 101 is not from anybody harvested. It was grown for the T-800s by Skynet.

"The Terminator is an infiltration unit. Part man, part machine. Underneath it’s a hyper alloy combat chasis. Micro processor controlled. Fully armored. Very tough. But outside it’s living, human tissue. Flesh, skin, hair, blood, grown for the cyborgs. The 600 series had rubber skin; we spotted them easy. But these are new; they look human. Sweat, bad breath, everything. Very hard to spot. I had to wait til he moved on you before I could zero him." -Kyle Reese the Terminator

That's what I go for too, but I still think it was modeled on someone and then grown afterwards...

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

That's what I go for too, but I still think it was modeled on someone and then grown afterwards...

Agreed, would be a nice deleted scene though

 

[snoop101]

Agreed, would be a nice deleted scene though

As blackhole said earlier, Its a deleted scene in terminator 3 special edition dvd. It shows cheif master Sgt William Candy who was selected as the physical model for the 101 terminators. Its kind of cheesy,so that's probably why its not in T3.

 

[Blackhole]

As blackhole said earlier, Its a deleted scene in terminator 3 special edition dvd. It shows cheif master Sgt William Candy who was selected as the physical model for the 101 terminators. Its kind of cheesy,so that's probably why its not in T3.

"HI THERE! I'm Chief Master Sergeant WILLIAM CANDY!"

 

[snoop101]

"HI THERE! I'm Chief Master Sergeant WILLIAM CANDY!"

 

[A.L.I.E.N]

"HI THERE! I'm Chief Master Sergeant WILLIAM CANDY!"

I see.....

 

[SilentSurfer]

That's what I go for too, but I still think it was modeled on someone and then grown afterwards...

Really wish they had gone more seriously about depicting that likeness scene origin scene in T3. They took a big steaming ???? on the character by doing it the way they did. Why did they try so hard to make Terminator humorous? Was that what people were waiting to see?

It did give me an idea for my own requel (my own made up work for sequels that replace the original crappy sequels to great franchise beginnings). In my story, the 101 is based on one of the military's elite black ops soldiers. He is the best of the best at infiltration and assassination. His nickname is 'the Terminator' (technical term for something coming to an end, or dying) because people say he is as precise and cold as a machine when on mission. He is spotted in a Soldier of Fortune magazine by the guy working for Cyberdyne who is in charge of physically rebuilding the '84 endo found in the factory and making it work again, and is recruited for his size and tactical skills which Cyberdyne hopes to incorporate into their new 600 series (movie quality latex rubber skin version of the 101 which looks just like the stand in in T1 for the eyeball removal scene) specifically funded and designed for the military as part of Cyberdyne's contracts with them. Cyberdyne never gets to do a full test run on the 600s though because Dyson doens't have the Skynet program up to A.I. standards yet, so the 600s don't see action until late in the war (requel 3) when the Resistance, led by John Connor, finally starts to become an organized threat to Skynet.

Also in my requel, Sarah tries to stop Judgment Day with the help of some of the people she's been training with, and she ends up dying, not by cancer (lame), but at the hands of 'the Terminator' who happens to be at the location of her attack where they are unveiling the first full prototype of the 600. That also happens to be August 29th, 1997, shortly after Sarah hears news reports of Skynet, NORADS new global defense system, officially going online.

I wonder if I'll ever get to see my ideas on screne one day...

 

[a-dev]

"HI THERE! I'm Chief Master Sergeant WILLIAM CANDY!"

I often cite the Dr Silberman scene to illustrate the plainly wrong approach that film took - "Oh look its Dr.Silberman! HAHA listen to him hilariously going off track with Kate brewster to make referance to his own experience in T2! Oh isn't it funny the coincidence that hes there to see the Terminator again! IN YOUR FACE Silberman! Oh HAH AH HAHAH look at him comically run away!"

But that deleted scene is far worse. I'm amazed and relieved they didn't put it in the film but really it should never have been filmed at all. A complete insult.

 

[snoop101]

I often cite the Dr Silberman scene to illustrate the plainly wrong approach that film took - "Oh look its Dr.Silberman! HAHA listen to him hilariously going off track with Kate brewster to make referance to his own experience in T2! Oh isn't it funny the coincidence that hes there to see the Terminator again! IN YOUR FACE Silberman! Oh HAH AH HAHAH look at him comically run away!"

But that deleted scene is far worse. I'm amazed and relieved they didn't put it in the film but really it should never have been filmed at all. A complete insult.

I definitely prefer what silent surfer stated, and wished they wouldve taken a much more serious approach to explaining the T-800 m101. But good thing it was deleted anyway.

 

[Blackhole]

Apparently the Sgt Candy scene was filmed to be deleted???

That's just crazy, but it means there is hope yet...

 

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*sigh*

 

[tylerdurden]

i don't get it. why would they have deleted scenes for a movie that DOES NOT exist?


btw, nice theory surfer. sounds like it could work.

personally, i'd have gone with the model 101 of the 800 series being a composite of skynet's concept of what the ultimate infiltration unit should look like. he would be based on several actual human models but the end result was more like a photo-fit rather than based on one specific individual.

everything from his unusual face, to his huge build (in a time where humans were skinny from starvation), to his weird accent would just demonstrate that skynet still didn't quite "get" what real humans are like. but it worked well enough to get the job done: fool humans long enough to get up close, then kill them.

just my 2 cents'...

 

[EndIessRAlN]

I would really like to see what Surfer said into fruition. But that's just not gonna happen. Too bad. I was so into it when I read it too. Surfer should copyright his ideas and sell them.