ALL THINGS TRANSFORMERS!!!!

[smitty]

Sideswipe is awesome! I hope more '84 autobots cars are on the way and released in a 2-3 year time frame

Mine arrived yesterday, and I can honestly say I've never been this excited about the potential of G1 Transformers. The engineering is perfect and he looks amazing in both modes.

To top it off I picked up MP-10 today (the Hasbro version); having owned both MP-1 and now 10 I can say beyond a doubt there is NO comparison for me, MP-10 is light years better. Scale, design, the list is endless. The only thing I think was better with MP-1 was the moving mouth piece.

Bring on the rest of G1!

 

[EndoSickness]

I´m SO hoping that this time around Unicron comes and Megatron finally becomes Galvatron.

 

[thecorsair]

I have hope we get Sunstreaker and Breakdown with the Lamborghini license, then TakaraTomy gets the Porsche license and Jazz and Deadend? He was a Porsche right? Just get me a Masterpiece combiner, Menasor or Bruticus.

The Porsche license won't happen unless the VW Group lose their conscience over who bankrolled their early years....which is unlikely as for obvious reasons that period in German history is a major cultural stigma and is why the VW Group have a "no war toys" policy that prevented the Alternators New Beetle Bumblebee and Porsche Boxster Jazz from being released several years back.

The Lamborghini brand doesn't have the same associations with VW's past which is likely why they have been OK with giving Takara the license.

This small fact hasn't stopped overexcited Transformer fans ( not having a dig at you btw ) from repeatedly saying that every Autobot car is now going to be made....even though licensing issues will probably prevent Jazz, Bumblebee, Wheeljack & Mirage.

Every other post in the Masterpiece speculation thread at TFW2005 tends to have the same kind of hysteria, either that or comments from morons that think the MP Sideswipe mold can be retooled into Sunstreaker....one look at the G1 toys of the twins blows that line of thinking completely away.

At this point the only others that can be anything close to being considered a definite release are,

Sunstreaker
( The Lamborghini license is for 2 years and if rumors are true an original mold will be released towards the end of that deal as Takara want to get a few more iconic characters out first.)

Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen
( Prowl is strongly rumored to be in development for release next year and the Nissan license is no problem as Takara already have an agreement with them. )

There's also an outside chance of,

Breakdown
( Along with Devastator, Menasor has been rumored as a choice for an official combiner but there's nothing concrete yet. With other molds thought to be in development it's unlikely any combiner would happen for at least 2 years....plans can change though. )

golobulus,
TFC's Herc is the way to go as it's got bigger, bulkier looking Constructicons & the combined mode has less partsforming.

The MakeToys Giant isn't as nice but is a good alternative if Herc is more than you're willing to pay.

Both are considerably better than any official Devastator.

 

[ARAFAT209]

Does anyone has a leader class optimus prime revenge of the fallen cheap for sale?

i was working on my ultramagnus , but i decided that this optimus isnt the one that i like for that project

 

[HPGR_Thrawn]

Hey all, ToysRUs on Ebay is doing a special promotion: Free shipping on orders over $49 AND 15% off any ebay purchase under $200 with code CTOYSRUS

Some transformers figs on their ebay store, such as Masterpiece Thundercracker.

 

[Gipetto0812]

Does anyone has a leader class optimus prime revenge of the fallen cheap for sale?

i was working on my ultramagnus , but i decided that this optimus isnt the one that i like for that project

I have an ROTF Leader Optimus that I'm willing to part with now that i have the new APS-01 version coming. I've very amiturely painted it a bit here and there but if you're just going to fully rework/repaint it, it shouldn't be a problem

 

[ARAFAT209]

I have an ROTF Leader Optimus that I'm willing to part with now that i have the new APS-01 version coming. I've very amiturely painted it a bit here and there but if you're just going to fully rework/repaint it, it shouldn't be a problem

pm send !!!!

 

[DPrime]

I'm thinking about picking up a Devastator and would really appreciate some guidance from those of you that have one. Is the Hercules worth the money over the Green Giant? How does the Takara compare?

I've seen some youtube comparisons, but without seeing them in person it's still a tough choice.

Well, I've never seen Giant in person but I do own Herc.

Honestly, it really came down to size for me. It fits with a Classics/MP/third party display nicely, which is what I have.

Giant's size would work best with a Classics/third party display, particularly if you've got that official/FP Bruticus and Superion in your collection - but I'm not so sure when you add the new scale MPs to the mix.

I know people say Giant's more G1 accurate but I don't really see it, to be quite honest, especially when you add in the TFC-007 Rage of Hercules add-on set. That aside, there's still a lot of wiggle room for accuracy when you consider how simply a lot of the original toys were, and the licenses that have been taken with the old Sunbow cartoon models and various comic incarnations.

I think I do prefer Giant's individual Constructicons... If I came across a really good deal or was able to trade for them, I might bite. But the combined mode took preference for me, so I went with Herc.

There is a whole thread dedicated to that on TFW, I think. Really depends on your personal preference, as both sets have their pros and cons. I prefer the complexity, size, and design of Hercules.

Yeah, what he said.

I´m SO hoping that this time around Unicron comes and Megatron finally becomes Galvatron.

You talking about the new movie, I take it?

I just want a G1-style reboot. I'm tired of ugly Transformers.

At this point the only others that can be anything close to being considered a definite release are,

Sunstreaker
( The Lamborghini license is for 2 years and if rumors are true an original mold will be released towards the end of that deal as Takara want to get a few more iconic characters out first.)

Can't wait for Sunstreaker. He might just be my favourite Autobot car... it helps that he was the only '84 TF I had as a kid (I was more into GI Joes at that point).

Prowl/Bluestreak/Smokescreen
( Prowl is strongly rumored to be in development for release next year and the Nissan license is no problem as Takara already have an agreement with them. )

Prowl might be my other fav... Only problem with Smokescreen is the whole real-life racecar thing, which would require seperate licensing deals from what I understand... though they might go with a more generalized "cartoon model" look.

There's also an outside chance of,

Breakdown
( Along with Devastator, Menasor has been rumored as a choice for an official combiner but there's nothing concrete yet. With other molds thought to be in development it's unlikely any combiner would happen for at least 2 years....plans can change though. )

I could take or leave individual Decepti-cars... but if they could combine into Menasor, that would definitely peak my interest!

Does anyone has a leader class optimus prime revenge of the fallen cheap for sale?

i was working on my ultramagnus , but i decided that this optimus isnt the one that i like for that project

That's looking really cool, man. Keep us posted with pics!

 

[thecorsair]

DPrime,
A G1 themed reboot would be the only way I'd take a look at a Transformers movie again but even then I'd have conditions eg,

1.( Tied )The humans aren't the main cast.

No humans at all would be preferable but movie execs would insist on including them as we apparently need someone to "relate to"....no we don't, movies are meant to be a form of escapism, so screw all that "a boy & his car" BS and focus on the characters that most people are paying money to see.

1.(Tied) The designs are as close to G1 as possible.

If anyone complains about the lack of "reality", tell them to get lost, it's a movie about fictional characters so mad stuff like mass shifting shouldn't be off the table.....I want to see Broadside turn into an aircraft carrier and squash Devastator like he did in the cartoon

2.Autobots other than Prime & Bumblebee get to do more than stand around in the background.

If a dodgy 80's cartoon can give almost every character their own personality and something to do then a multimillion dollar movie series should be able to.

3.Don't make it "dark".

If there's one thing I detest it's people who think that "dark" storylines automatically equals "great"....it doesn't.

 

[karamazov80]

DPrime,
A G1 themed reboot would be the only way I'd take a look at a Transformers movie again but even then I'd have conditions eg,

1.( Tied )The humans aren't the main cast.

No humans at all would be preferable but movie execs would insist on including them as we apparently need someone to "relate to"....no we don't, movies are meant to be a form of escapism, so screw all that "a boy & his car" BS and focus on the characters that most people are paying money to see.

1.(Tied) The designs are as close to G1 as possible.

If anyone complains about the lack of "reality", tell them to get lost, it's a movie about fictional characters so mad stuff like mass shifting shouldn't be off the table.....I want to see Broadside turn into an aircraft carrier and squash Devastator like he did in the cartoon

2.Autobots other than Prime & Bumblebee get to do more than stand around in the background.

If a dodgy 80's cartoon can give almost every character their own personality and something to do then a multimillion dollar movie series should be able to.

3.Don't make it "dark".

If there's one thing I detest it's people who think that "dark" storylines automatically equals "great"....it doesn't.

One word in response to this--WORD

To the last point, that's actually one of the reasons people defend Star Wars episode 3. But dark for the sake of being dark without other virtues isn't good. Same goes for the crappy Bayformer movies. Dark can be good (like Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run or Watchmen). Light can also be good (like. . .Alan Moore's Tom Strong or Supreme). But to be good, things have to be, y'know, good first, dark or not dark second. It's a necessary condition IMO.

 

[the angry orc]

got my mp sideswipe yesterday. shipping box and sideswipe's box were absolutely destroyed but thankfully sideswipe was fine. this. mp. is. awesome. i didn't have too many issues with paint, just a couple of small spots on the back and one on the side. really dig the bot mode. perfect rendition imo.

 

[loricstone]

DPrime,
A G1 themed reboot would be the only way I'd take a look at a Transformers movie again but even then I'd have conditions eg,

1.( Tied )The humans aren't the main cast.

No humans at all would be preferable but movie execs would insist on including them as we apparently need someone to "relate to"....no we don't, movies are meant to be a form of escapism, so screw all that "a boy & his car" BS and focus on the characters that most people are paying money to see.

1.(Tied) The designs are as close to G1 as possible.

If anyone complains about the lack of "reality", tell them to get lost, it's a movie about fictional characters so mad stuff like mass shifting shouldn't be off the table.....I want to see Broadside turn into an aircraft carrier and squash Devastator like he did in the cartoon

2.Autobots other than Prime & Bumblebee get to do more than stand around in the background.

If a dodgy 80's cartoon can give almost every character their own personality and something to do then a multimillion dollar movie series should be able to.

3.Don't make it "dark".

If there's one thing I detest it's people who think that "dark" storylines automatically equals "great"....it doesn't.

Damn, Corsair, are we like brothers from the same cloth or somethin?

I made this case on SF about how if I was to take over the Transformers movie, I would totally provide a perfect way for the movies to shift into the G1 molds. I also stated that the majority of the movie should involve the Transformers, not humans. In the early part of the movie, I would have interaction with humans, but I would then have most TFs save a few (like Ambassadors so to speak) leave for Cybertron due to big things getting ready to take place.

The only time I would have some human prevalent is when Optimus or Shockwave is conversing with their fellow Autobot or Decepticon respectively on earth via telecommunication. Maybe then there would be some interaction with some human representatives on screen.

The funny thing is, one person had the gall to tell me that TF would never work without humans in the movie! I will always hold firm to the fact that that is a bogus statement. Its the dumb human element that screws up the TF movies in the first place. Transformers can appeal to a wide element of people because they have human emotions, and THAT is what would make people relate to them even though they are intelligent machines.

The problem with the three TF movies was that there simply was too little screen time to the other TF outside of Prime and Bumblebee. I didn't know who the hell Ratchet was from Ironhide. They were underutilised, unrecognizable, and when Ratchet got the death from Sentinel, I could care less. I never could identify with him to begin with.

These big wigs in the movie industry for the most part just are clueless. Absolutely clueless!! And then Hasbro wonders why their toys didn't sell like they expected! Hmm...let me think....could it be because the desings sucked? Yeah thats the ticket.

I just don't get it.

 

[karamazov80]

In my mind's eye, I imagine a CG G1-inspired Transformers film that is magnificent.

 

[thecorsair]

One word in response to this--WORD

To the last point, that's actually one of the reasons people defend Star Wars episode 3. But dark for the sake of being dark without other virtues isn't good. Same goes for the crappy Bayformer movies. Dark can be good (like Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run or Watchmen). Light can also be good (like. . .Alan Moore's Tom Strong or Supreme). But to be good, things have to be, y'know, good first, dark or not dark second. It's a necessary condition IMO.

I think there's a fine line between making something with a "dark" feel and making something so relentlessly morose that it should have a health warning.

Even though there were scenes of Unicron devouring planets and Optimus Prime was killed off near the start the overall tone of the 80's animated movie had a similar feelgood factor to the original Star Wars movie which worked to great effect so whilst it can never be held up as the greatest example of cinema I think there's some lessons to be learned from it should the live action movies ever get rebooted.

 

[thecorsair]

loricstone,
Well you know what they say about great minds!

Had the human element been removed or even toned down in the Bayformers series, there would have been more time to give the other Autobots something to do but Bay seemed to think Sam's story was more important

 

[Silent Bob]

DPrime,
A G1 themed reboot would be the only way I'd take a look at a Transformers movie again but even then I'd have conditions eg,

1.( Tied )The humans aren't the main cast.

No humans at all would be preferable but movie execs would insist on including them as we apparently need someone to "relate to"....no we don't, movies are meant to be a form of escapism, so screw all that "a boy & his car" BS and focus on the characters that most people are paying money to see.

1.(Tied) The designs are as close to G1 as possible.

If anyone complains about the lack of "reality", tell them to get lost, it's a movie about fictional characters so mad stuff like mass shifting shouldn't be off the table.....I want to see Broadside turn into an aircraft carrier and squash Devastator like he did in the cartoon

2.Autobots other than Prime & Bumblebee get to do more than stand around in the background.

If a dodgy 80's cartoon can give almost every character their own personality and something to do then a multimillion dollar movie series should be able to.

3.Don't make it "dark".

If there's one thing I detest it's people who think that "dark" storylines automatically equals "great"....it doesn't.

LMAO !! Spot on buddy

Although I've got to say my number 1 and most important change would be to take the whole thing as far, far away from Mr Michael Bay as possible!!!

With him in charge (even following the conditions you set out) there would be no end of inappropriate "humour", ENDLESS slow motion in front of never ending sunsets and an Optimus Prime more psychotic than your worst Decepticon !!

I'd Love Joss Whedon to be given the job

Bob

 

[Furyan]

In my mind's eye, I imagine a CG G1-inspired Transformers film that is magnificent.

Oh hells yeah!

 

[DPrime]

The problem with the three TF movies was that there simply was too little screen time to the other TF outside of Prime and Bumblebee. I didn't know who the hell Ratchet was from Ironhide. They were underutilised, unrecognizable, and when Ratchet got the death from Sentinel, I could care less. I never could identify with him to begin with.

Heh, such a great statement... especially since it was Ironhide who died, not Ratchet!

Anyway, I'm not going to quote everyone on this - suffice it to say that I agree.

They don't need humans - although I'm not opposed to them, either. Just depends how they're used. They certainly don't need Shia... That kid got annoying fast.

As for the designs, a bit of deviation is okay. I would have been totally fine if they had gone with the Alternator designs, back when this whole thing started. Classics would have been fine too (for the most part). I'm not expecting '80s automobiles or even F-15s, necessarily, but the 'bots should look like the 'bots!

 

[KillKen]

I thought it was hilarious that even in the movie no one seemed to care that Ironhide died! No one says a thing about it!

 

[golobulus]

Hey man, I care... Ironhide will be missed... or they'll make a Ghost Ironhide like Starscream. Don't forget you heard it here first