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It's tragic that they don't have better quality control then.

My friend is a senior portrait sculptor sculptor for Madam Tussuad's in London, and so I know how they approach creating a likeness there. Great care is taken to at least try and get as much reference that they can get, and try and create the essence of their chosen subject.

Yes, they're not always successful, but they have far more hits then misses.

What I can't understand is when they saw the blocked out sculpt for this that they didn't pick up on it's faults like everyone else did. What is going on there eh?

Aww, Eli26 you're far too kind.
 
You also have to consider that once a piece reaches the preview/pre-order stage, it might be too late to make changes to the sculpt. Tweaking Buffy's hair is one thing, but making significant changes to the actual head sculpt is another matter. If they did that, it would not only delay the piece a good bit, but also add to the production budget. It just might not be financially feasible for them to change the sculpt, despite the complaints. It's not that they don't care, it's just business.

True, one just has to take a look at the Buffy DST line. Lots of complaints there concerning inaccuracies and poor sculpts, yet they still see the light of day on store shelves. Best solution to the problem?

DON'T MAKE THE PURCHASE!!!
 
It's tragic that they don't have better quality control then.

My friend is a senior portrait sculptor sculptor for Madam Tussuad's in London, and so I know how they approach creating a likeness there. Great care is taken to at least try and get as much reference that they can get, and try and create the essence of their chosen subject.

Yes, they're not always successful, but they have far more hits then misses.

What I can't understand if when they saw the blocked out sculpt for this that they didn't pic up on it's faults like everyone else did. What is going on there?

Aww, Eli26 you're far too kind.

I would love to see all your work! I am a published artist, but nothing like what you do. I am a 2D illustrator trying to get into the wonderful world of 3D computer animation ala Frantic Films or Pixar. Anywhere really. lol

I really would love to do the real 3D stuff, like working on sculptures and even fabric based characters. I have a lot of creative juices oozing through my pores and I need to... just get in there and do something creative on all mediums!
 
Again not to ruffle any feathers but I liked what I saw, so much so that I ordered Angel on FlexPay. I do have a quibble though. The pose looks good from the back and on the sides but looks awkward when viewed from the front. Otherwise the gesture does capture the essence of how Boreanaz moved as Angel in the series. He always hunched that way when making a point or throwing a witty retort.

I like the face. It reminds me of the Angel I like best: the weathered vampire of season 3 who had the weight of the world on his shoulders with Darla on his heels and Wolfram & Hart not too far behind. He doesn't look like "Angel's father" to me. To me the PF is Angel, weary and cautious but ready to break a piece off at a moment's notice. He's not the Heartthrob from BTVS or the first season of Angel, which suits me fine. He's seasoned to me not knackered.

Still I am in the minority here. But I just thought I'd give my two cents.
 
Oh you should stick with computers Eli26. Thats the future!

We used to have students visiting the Hensons when I worked there years ago, and they always used to ask about how to get into that type of work back then. But I always said the same thing. Get on a CGI course.

CGI is the way of the future. People like myself and my friends are a dying breed, sadly. I worked on two Potter films. Azkaban had a creature crew of 600. The last film barely had anyone, and the work there was was all scan ins for the digital people.
 
Thanks Sue! I love hearing that! Now I almost wanna look for your name in the end credits of the Potter films. Too bad I don't own either copy. lol

Still would love to see your work! :)

And back to Angel. His jacket, when did he wear that?
 
The only way they'd sit up and take notice if they got a ton of complaining emails or if everyone canceled, and that seems highly unlikely.

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Wouldn't that be great! Then they'd HAVE to take notice. First the real lame 2nd Buffy PF with the outfit that looks terrible, groucho eyebrows now a shlumpfy much too old looking ANGEL. If everyone keeps buying these with the attitude of "Oh well, maybe it won't look THAT bad" or "Maybe I can repaint it", they will have no need to ever make them any better. A shame...
 
Oh I wasn't important enough to be on the end credits love! I was just a creature shop painter and finisher on that.

I think that jacket comes from season 1 promos. But it could be 2. I'm not quite sure.

Thing is he never actually wore it in the show. So why they stuck him in that god only knows.

As Spike would say "He looks like a magnificent poof!! :rotfl
 
I wonder if they have those all premade up.. and say, okay we got a complainer on the design of the piece.. send out this premade email. hehe

Saves them a lot of work and time instead of writing a whole email from scratch for each individual person.

It wasn't premade because there was a typo that i corrected:

FULL EMAIL:

Dear Jason,

Thank you for your e-mail to our Customer Service Department. Your feedback
is important to us and we appreciate that you took the time to reach us.

We will pass your comments along to the production team. If by the time you
receive your product arrival e-mail sand find that the product has not been
improved you are certainly welcome to cancel the item!

Please let me know if I can assist you further!

Best regards,
Robin


Robin Selvaggi
Customer Service
 
Well Dave it would have to be a huge amount to get Sideshow to even acknowledge them, let alone act on them.

Maybe we should all try and at least send one email in each, just to get the ball rolling.

I've gone to several other boards 'speading the word', so maybe some tiny bit of good may come from it. :eek:
 
It wasn't premade because there was a typo that i corrected:

Thank you for your e-mail to our Customer Service Department. Your feedback
is important to us and we appreciate that you took the time to reach us.

We will pass your comments along to the production team. If by the time you
receive your product arrival e-mail sand find that the product has not been
improved you are certainly welcome to cancel the item!

Please let me know if I can assist you further!

Best regards,
Robin

LIAR! YOU MADE THAT UP!

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

Okay, I'll stop. Either way, just be thankful they give us responses. Some companies don't even do that. Actually SideShow has a pretty good customer service.
 
LIAR! YOU MADE THAT UP!

LIAR LIAR PANTS ON FIRE!

Okay, I'll stop. Either way, just be thankful they give us responses. Some companies don't even do that. Actually SideShow has a pretty good customer service.

I am thankful. It's nice that they'd even bother to reply.

 
Maybe we all should cancel our orders and wait to pre-order them again nearer the time? That should make a statement

Yeah, if Angel is anything like Spike not like we'll lose out on getting him.

Although Angel had his own show. So he may sell out quicker, like alternate Buffy did.
 
It wasn't premade because there was a typo that i corrected:

Trust me...that's a standard response. I've written Sideshow a few times, and the replies I've received are nearly identical to the one you received. They might be identical. I'm too lazy to go back and check. Anyway, I don't care that the responses aren't truly personalized because I'm sure that Sideshow gets tons of e-mails critiquing the prototypes. The production team can't respond to each and every one. As long as our thoughts are actually passed on to the production team, then it's all good.
 
Ok, I get some of you want changes made but all cancelling your pre-orders is abit much honestly. Your all sounding like scheming vigilantes at this point, plotting its demise unless your wants are acknowledged and changed. I know were the consumers and our voice counts but WE have to act responsibly too. I think sending the emails is enough to get SS to notice what we're getting across. Cancelling will have the opposite effect.
 
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