Any Vegetarians on This Board?

[jinxx]

Trader Joe's is a store that sells specialty items at rock bottom prices. Everything there is good. Hard to get things, imports, organic food, all really great deals. Example: Organic Soy Delicious soy ice cream sold for $4.50 at the health food store, but only $2.99 at Trader Joe's. https://www.traderjoes.com/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trader_Joe's

Okay, so that would mean they have to source products from all over the world?...

 

[Blackthornone]

Okay, so that would mean they have to source products from all over the world?...

It is NOT a health food store or a vegetarian store. It's just a great place to shop with great prices and friendly employees. SOME of their items are imported, but that might be less than 4%. None of the things I buy are imported, but they sell them. I prefer to buy as local as possible. All that said however, I get the feeling that you ask this question because of the rather questionable "GREENNESS" of importing food.

"A Business Week article about the store noted that, between 1990 and 2001, the chain quintupled the store number and increased its profits by ten times.[4] Supermarket News estimates that Trader Joe's total sales for 2008 were $7.2 billion, which gave it a ranking of No. 23 on the list of "SN's Top 75 Retailers for 2009."[1]

The May 2009 issue of Consumer Reports ranked Trader Joe's the second-best supermarket chain in the nation, after Wegmans.[9]

In June 2009 MSN Money released its third annual Customer Service Hall of Fame survey results. Trader Joe's ranks 2nd in customer service.[10]

Trader Joe's was named one of the most ethical companies in the United States by Ethisphere Magazine in 2008 and 2009.[11][12]"

 

[Morbach]

As interesting as it is that someone LIKES something, it is even more important WHY someone likes something.The fact that I like something is not enough to get me to do it on a regular basis. I have to know and to understand WHY. I am someone who questions everything. After questioning it, I realized that my liking of meat was not based upon reason, or any informed decision on my part. In fact, instead it was it was PROGRAMMED into me, and THAT is simply NOT acceptable to me, because I have extremely low tolerance for being manipulated in any way. If I think that I like something because someone else made me, and because advertising made me like it too, it makes my resolve even stronger to fight my liking of it even more, and I simply don't care how uncomfortable I get during the process of change. I get off on the pain, just like I enjoy the pain of riding my bike fast, simply because the challenge of overcoming that difficult task was so rewarding, simply because it WAS so difficult.
The fact is that a vegan diet is ultimately the most healthy, and so knowing that, I made the change for myself, which was rather hard at first, but I did it, and now I simply don't miss eating meat.

I like eating meat because it tastes good. Grean beans or ribs? Ribs all the way.

 

[Morbach]

CACA GROWTH..

 

[Blackthornone]

I like eating meat because it tastes good. Grean beans or ribs? Ribs all the way.

You need to compare the flavor of meat to an entire vegetarian meal, or a dish, like hummus. Green beans by themselves are plain, because they are only strong in a few ingredients that the body needs. For example, a vegetarian pizza and a Caesar salad, with hummus and spicy potatoes, with olive oil, garlic, lemon juice, oregano, onion powder, sea salt, and white or black pepper cooked in the oven is better than ribs, and you can leave the dinner table feeling full, but not weighed down and heavy. Vegetarian meals make you feel nourished, lighter, and more energetic, and you don't feel like napping after you have one, like eating a meat dish can make you feel. Look at the Lions. They hunt, and eat, and sleep. Most of the time, they just lay around

 

[Morbach]

Look at the Lions. They hunt, and eat, and sleep. Most of the time, they just lay around

That's the life right there, son.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Regardless what is said I'm not converting. I eat meat. Plain and simple. So the facts you point out don't do nothing for me.

Vegetarian...an old Native American word for "Bad Hunter".

That's the life right there, son.

What else are lions gonna do? Break out in song like in the Lion King?

 

[Blackthornone]

Vegetarian...an old Native American word for "Bad Hunter".






What else are lions gonna do? Break out in song like in the Lion King?

Well, if you actually think that the Native Americans ate meat year around, you are mistaken.. They also didn't eat anywhere near as much as most people in the U.S. eat today.

 

[Morbach]

Vegetarian...an old Native American word for "Bad Hunter".






What else are lions gonna do? Break out in song like in the Lion King?

Hakuna Matata my man.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Well, if you actually think that the Native Americans ate meat year around, you are mistaken.. They also didn't eat anywhere near as much as most people in the U.S. eat today.

Relax, man. It was a joke. Sheesh. Vegans...so touchy.

Hakuna Matata my man.

 

[jinxx]

It is NOT a health food store or a vegetarian store. It's just a great place to shop with great prices and friendly employees. SOME of their items are imported, but that might be less than 4%. None of the things I buy are imported, but they sell them. I prefer to buy as local as possible. All that said however, I get the feeling that you ask this question because of the rather questionable "GREENNESS" of importing food.

"A Business Week article about the store noted that, between 1990 and 2001, the chain quintupled the store number and increased its profits by ten times.[4] Supermarket News estimates that Trader Joe's total sales for 2008 were $7.2 billion, which gave it a ranking of No. 23 on the list of "SN's Top 75 Retailers for 2009."[1]

The May 2009 issue of Consumer Reports ranked Trader Joe's the second-best supermarket chain in the nation, after Wegmans.[9]

In June 2009 MSN Money released its third annual Customer Service Hall of Fame survey results. Trader Joe's ranks 2nd in customer service.[10]

Trader Joe's was named one of the most ethical companies in the United States by Ethisphere Magazine in 2008 and 2009.[11][12]"

See, I'm still not convinced. As a vegan, you would have to eat a variety of non-animal products to get the proper nutrition. My agrarian knowledge is shat but even a moron like me knows that most fruits and vegetables can't grow at certain region/climate and etc....and yes, I was going in that "green" direction. I mean, it should be expected with you being a vegan and all. At least you picked up on it unlike that hypocrite who shall remain nameless from here on!

 

[Kuzeh]

See, I'm still not convinced. As a vegan, you would have to eat a variety of non-animal products to get the proper nutrition. My agrarian knowledge is shat but even a moron like me knows that most fruits and vegetables can't grow at certain region/climate and etc....and yes, I was going in that "green" direction. I mean, it should be expected with you being a vegan and all. At least you picked up on it unlike that hypocrite who shall remain nameless from here on!

Best post ever!!!


BTW, you really need to get over it...

 

[Blackthornone]

See, I'm still not convinced. As a vegan, you would have to eat a variety of non-animal products to get the proper nutrition. My agrarian knowledge is shat but even a moron like me knows that most fruits and vegetables can't grow at certain region/climate and etc....and yes, I was going in that "green" direction. I mean, it should be expected with you being a vegan and all. At least you picked up on it unlike that hypocrite who shall remain nameless from here on!

Well, California has many micro climates that allow for the growing of many different foods.
The farmer's market has carrots, tomatoes, peas, radishes, lettuce, spinach,red potatoes,white potatoes, blue potatoes, hass, and fuerte avocados, lemons, onions, garlic, oranges, kiwis, asparagus, artichokes,limes, cherimoyas, dates, raisins, apples, peaches, strawberries, garbanzos and and other beans, kumquats, and grapes. Other than that, there is tofu and various grains at the health food store, however I buy bread at a California bakery.There are more things at the farmer's market that I can't remember, persimmons, oh yes, I remembered it.

About the only foods that need to be imported are pineapples, I think. Watermelon grows here, too. And Blackberries in my garden.

 

[hoodonit00]

You need to compare the flavor of meat to an entire vegetarian meal, or a dish, like hummus. Green beans by themselves are plain, because they are only strong in a few ingredients that the body needs. For example, a vegetarian pizza and a Caesar salad, with hummus and spicy potatoes, with olive oil, garlic, lemon juice, oregano, onion powder, sea salt, and white or black pepper cooked in the oven is better than ribs, and you can leave the dinner table feeling full, but not weighed down and heavy. Vegetarian meals make you feel nourished, lighter, and more energetic, and you don't feel like napping after you have one, like eating a meat dish can make you feel. Look at the Lions. They hunt, and eat, and sleep. Most of the time, they just lay around

See, you have your mind believing this. I don't know how many years it took you to get that way but my mind knows that a slab of BBQ ribs taste better then any vegan dish that any top chef could prepare.

As I've stated earlier, I don't like vegetables. I don't care that you're a vegetarian, I really don't. But again I feel like someone is telling me I should be one because all of the benefits of it.

I don't care about the benefits of it. I like the taste of meat. As I showed earlier my finding say if I become a vegetarian I may live 4 years longer. Yours say 8 years. Doesn't matter, I'm a meat eater. I'm 41 years old now. If I live to be 65, I will have seen all my kids get married and have kids of their own. Just the way I feel.

Just as a side note. My father just died at the age of 69 on Sept.21. He loved his salt pork, his bacon, his gravies and desserts. He would cut steak fat off and put it on a piece of buttered bread and eat it. Put salt on everything he ate and was a heavy drinker for probably 40 years of his life. Did this lifestyle kill him? No he died from complications to Asbestos. He did have 2 heart attacks but moved past them and was still a heavy worker up until his lungs were scarred from his exposure.

We're all going to die from something. Look at Christopher Reeves wife. Never smoked a day in her life but died from lung cancer while some people who've have smoked since they were 10 live till they're 90 years old. Most people, if they lead a somewhat healthy life and keep their weight close to what it should be, will live a full life. If they get some kind of fatal disease and they are for the most part healthy (even eating the turd covered meat)it's usually a genetic problem. Look how breast cancer strikes females in some families. It's bad genes, simple as that.

 

[Morbach]

See, you have your mind believing this. I don't know how many years it took you to get that way but my mind knows that a slab of BBQ ribs taste better then any vegan dish that any top chef could prepare.

As I've stated earlier, I don't like vegetables. I don't care that you're a vegetarian, I really don't. But again I feel like someone is telling me I should be one because all of the benefits of it.

I don't care about the benefits of it. I like the taste of meat. As I showed earlier my finding say if I become a vegetarian I may live 4 years longer. Yours say 8 years. Doesn't matter, I'm a meat eater. I'm 41 years old now. If I live to be 65, I will have seen all my kids get married and have kids of their own. Just the way I feel.

Just as a side note. My father just died at the age of 69 on Sept.21. He loved his salt pork, his bacon, his gravies and desserts. He would cut steak fat off and put it on a piece of buttered bread and eat it. Put salt on everything he ate and was a heavy drinker for probably 40 years of his life. Did this lifestyle kill him? No he died from complications to Asbestos. He did have 2 heart attacks but moved past them and was still a heavy worker up until his lungs were scarred from his exposure.

We're all going to die from something. Look at Christopher Reeves wife. Never smoked a day in her life but died from lung cancer while some people who've have smoked since they were 10 live till they're 90 years old. Most people, if they lead a somewhat healthy life and keep their weight close to what it should be, will live a full life. If they get some kind of fatal disease and they are for the most part healthy (even eating the turd covered meat)it's usually a genetic problem. Look how breast cancer strikes females in some families. It's bad genes, simple as that.

Amen man. Just golden.

 

[Blackthornone]

See, you have your mind believing this. I don't know how many years it took you to get that way but my mind knows that a slab of BBQ ribs taste better then any vegan dish that any top chef could prepare.

As I've stated earlier, I don't like vegetables. I don't care that you're a vegetarian, I really don't. But again I feel like someone is telling me I should be one because all of the benefits of it.

I don't care about the benefits of it. I like the taste of meat. As I showed earlier my finding say if I become a vegetarian I may live 4 years longer. Yours say 8 years. Doesn't matter, I'm a meat eater. I'm 41 years old now. If I live to be 65, I will have seen all my kids get married and have kids of their own. Just the way I feel.

Just as a side note. My father just died at the age of 69 on Sept.21. He loved his salt pork, his bacon, his gravies and desserts. He would cut steak fat off and put it on a piece of buttered bread and eat it. Put salt on everything he ate and was a heavy drinker for probably 40 years of his life. Did this lifestyle kill him? No he died from complications to Asbestos. He did have 2 heart attacks but moved past them and was still a heavy worker up until his lungs were scarred from his exposure.

We're all going to die from something. Look at Christopher Reeves wife. Never smoked a day in her life but died from lung cancer while some people who've have smoked since they were 10 live till they're 90 years old. Most people, if they lead a somewhat healthy life and keep their weight close to what it should be, will live a full life. If they get some kind of fatal disease and they are for the most part healthy (even eating the turd covered meat)it's usually a genetic problem. Look how breast cancer strikes females in some families. It's bad genes, simple as that.

Have you actually TRIED a top vegan dish made by a top chef of all organic ingredients? I doubt it. You are speculating. You don't know what you are talking about. Think of this: What is meat? a combination of elements in particular proportions that determine its properties, like flavor, texture, ect. There is no reason why you could not come up with a combination of vegetable elements that mimics meat. After all, the COW did it, to make it's flesh. If a COW can combine vegetable ingredients to make something that tastes like flesh, because it IS flesh, there is no reason why human beings cannot do the same, because both humans and cows have the same raw materials to work with. What I'm in essence saying, is that there is no reason why human beings cannot come up with a meat substitute, or a meat analog made out of vegetable matter, unless you lack the intelligence to do so. Everything on Earth is made up of the periodic table of elements. Look at the big picture. Besides, WE as human beings are BETTER than animals, and as such, I believe we can do ANYTHING they can do, and do it BETTER, WITHOUT their help!




Bad genetics is caused by bad health habits, which was proven by the Nova program on epigenetics that I mentioned earlier. Enough generations of bad health habits equals genetic defects. Your father was one of those people who CLEARLY had bad health habits. He had TWO heart attacks? That's a failure. If you told me he had NO heart attacks or strokes, or had no serious health problems his entire life, that would mean only that his ancestors over most of the generations had good enough health habits to pass on good strong genetics.

Waitresses have gotten lung cancer and they don't even smoke. They got it from second hand smoke.

Again, bad genes ARE CAUSED by bad health habits, which is to say human actions, over many generations. Cause=effect.

 

[Blackthornone]

Relax, man. It was a joke. Sheesh. Vegans...so touchy.

I realize that you were kidding, but other members might take it seriously. I have heard it before, and there is a grain of truth in it, which is that yes, if you are a bad hunter, you will have to eat corn, because the corn doesn't run when you spear it. Basically, that's why it's funny. Humor is what evokes a startled response in people because they have realized a truth in that instant to be true that they haven't heard before. That's basically why people laugh.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

I realize that you were kidding, but other members might take it seriously. I have heard it before, and there is a grain of truth in it, which is that yes, if you are a bad hunter, you will have to eat corn, because the corn doesn't run when you spear it. Basically, that's why it's funny. Humor is what evokes a startled response in people because they have realized a truth in that instant to be true that they haven't heard before. That's basically why people laugh.

wow...just wow.

 

[Valfar]

I just had Subway with lots of veggies, preparing for a big scheisse tonight and i hope to clog the bowl, can't wait!!.

 

[Shai]

Blackthorn is right though...Hummus is delicious.