Arnold or his Characters

[Lee in MI]

Unlike, say, Tookie Williams.

Uhhhh....FAIL

Never said or implied that Tookie Williams wasn't found guilty. Just didnt and still don't support capital execution.

 

[Lee in MI]

Agreed...I'm not going to judge him based on his personal sex life...and especially something debatable like the execution of Williams...taking another life maybe is never the "best choice" but feeling remorse and true regret and therefore becoming "redeemed" does not mean the previous crimes simply did not happen imo...

Not sure if you ever followed what was going on with the Williams case but redemption was what was in question. There was also the issue of him saying he had nothing to do with the particular murders he was convicted of but that is debatable. He did admit that he atleast set the environment for that to happen.

I personally thought the whole execution thing that the governor supported and authorized was objectionable at best. But like others have said it's not about the gov or the man it's about the characters and his work. So that's how I look at it.

 

[Fremen]

I don't care what he's done. I love his movies and the figures.

 

[karamazov80]

Okay, so as a politician, you still have no right. Not a penny of your tax dollars went to pay him for the office he held. Not a single penny from any Californian did either, so that's irrelevant.

I think part of this, "They're a celeb so they don't deserve a private life" is one of the diseases that's contributing to the devolution of society. It's also ridiculous that people expect celebs to be above a-typical human behavior. People spend so much time henpicking celebs when their own lives could better use the attention and focus.

Of course, the celebrity culture in general is problematic, but that's not the issue. Politicians and celebrities are what they are in today's society, like it or dislike it. And agree or disagree, if you have ambitions of being a world famous actor and getting paid millions of dollars to play pretend in front of a camera, you implicitly agree to lose much of your privacy. I didn't decide it, but that's the way it is, and if folks don't realize that when they get into that career path then they're foolish. And if they are so averse to it, they should follow a different career path. But in truth, most like it and take advantage of it, until it turns on them. That's fair play.

And Arnold may have been a California politician, but he promoted himself on the national scene whenever he could for obvious reasons (political and celebrity ambitions at play). He never turned down positive national public attention.

 

[vareika]

Not sure if you ever followed what was going on with the Williams case but redemption was what was in question. There was also the issue of him saying he had nothing to do with the particular murders he was convicted of but that is debatable. He did admit that he atleast set the environment for that to happen.

I personally thought the whole execution thing that the governor supported and authorized was objectionable at best. But like others have said it's not about the gov or the man it's about the characters and his work. So that's how I look at it.

Nope, I didn't follow the execution very closely, but I know the entire thing is debatable with people on both sides of the argument...so I guess my point is similar to yours (that its about the characters), but I don't have as strong as a opinion to either side of the debate.

 

[DiFabio]

Well there's news going around that he may have two other kids born out of wedlock floating around.

 

[jonny88]

Well there's news going around that he may have two other kids born out of wedlock floating around.

if that turns out true l will not look at him much differently, but everyone in his family should get a turn at punching him in the face.

 

[DPrime]

...uhhh and being found not guilty doesn't = murderer

Not necessarily. Just the whole thing seemed so suspicious. I can understand why he wasn't found guilty "beyond a shadow of a doubt", but he's still the obvious suspect.

Chris Benoit is an even bigger a-hole, that's for sure.

I still love Arnie though! I ain't gonna judge him.

 

[ozzfan84]

I went and bought more figures when I learned about this.

 

[Deak Starkiller]

Chris Benoit.

Sad but true.

There's only one actor who I feel disappointed by and have a hard time separating his personal life from his professional life, and that's Jeffrey Jones. Not that that anyone would want figures of him, but he's been in some great movies and I can't help think of what he did that diminishes his work for me.

Yeah, this is really disappointing. It was like finding out a cool uncle was a kid toucher. You just feel awkward.

 

[JAWS]

He screwed up thats for sure! He will pay for his mistake - $$$$$$$$$

I only hold that fact that he could have done so much better against him. If you are going to cheat - shoot for the stars! If you are going to ruin your life ruin it with a playboy model, not the hired help!

Just, kinda sorta, kidding


Arnold may be a jerk but I still love him!!

 

[ArmoredFoe]

I could give a damn. I dont know Arnold nor do I know whats going on in his head nor the situation he was in during all this. I dont care how many kids he has across the US. Hes an awesome action star and has played some of the most memorable characters on the big screen. He could continue to crank down maids/nannies all over makes no difference to me. Sure it sucks for his family and what they have to go thru, but again as I said I dont know him personally and that has nothing to do with me.

 

[Theokan]

No, I don't think my closest friends have had children with the help. But, I guess it is possible that I just don't know.

Cheating with the maid and cheating with a woman from the gym is more or less the same thing. If you truly don't know someone who have cheated before, believe it or not, you're in the minority. And they don't necessary have to conceive a child either, because the only difference between a cheating man and a cheating man who ends up with a kid is a difference of chance, not of moral.

I have known people who openly brag about their cheating proudly, that's exactly Arnold's character since day one, no surprise there. The whole child with the maid thing sounds really bad, but is it really that much better morally if he never have that child, yet everyone knew he cheats anyway?

What I'm getting at is that we all knew his flawed characteristics already, we didn't just find this out after the whole maid scandal thing.

 

[Russell1982]

There's only one actor who I feel disappointed by and have a hard time separating his personal life from his professional life, and that's Jeffrey Jones. Not that that anyone would want figures of him, but he's been in some great movies and I can't help think of what he did that diminishes his work for me.

I had no idea what jeffrey jones had done so i just looked it up. Cant believe that. I loved him in the few things i'd seen him in. Soo soo disappointing. I'm really shocked.

As for Arnold, as with any celebrity, i think whatever they do in their personal life is their business. I love his characters, most of them pretty much sum up my childhood years as i grew up watching his movies. Everything from Commando, The Terminator, T2, Predator, The Running Man to Red Heat, Raw Deal. I even had a hamster named after him.

 

[a-dev]

Raw Deal! I don't think I've seen that!

edit- just checked IMDB. No I definitely haven't seen that, or Collateral damage, Eraser or End of Days. I can't believe that, 4 Arnie films I've never seen.

 

[JohnnyT]

These controversies and scandal tend to die out after a while. The movies are bigger than the man!

 

[galactiboy]

These controversies and scandal tend to die out after a while. The movies are bigger than the man!

Agreed, this will likely just be a footnote to his career in film and doesn't really matter politically as he seems to be done with that venture.

 

[Russell1982]

Raw Deal! I don't think I've seen that!

edit- just checked IMDB. No I definitely haven't seen that, or Collateral damage, Eraser or End of Days. I can't believe that, 4 Arnie films I've never seen.

I dont think i saw some of his later films, but all the classics from my youth i used to watch. If i saw Arnolds name, i watched it. Raw Deal isnt his best, but worth watching i guess. I saw Eraser but dont remember much of it, I recorded End of Days recently but still havent watched it. And i never saw Collateral Damage.

 

[DiFabio]

If Hot Toys is working on more Terminator figures like I'm wishing, I hope this scandal has no bearing on a Battle Damaged T2 and Police Shoot Out figures.

 

[Lejuan]

When I heard the news, my figures were nearby and I just turned and opened up my Detolf and snapped my T1 T-800 in half at the chest and broke both of its legs off. I'll be honest, it's a decision I now regret - I've tried gluing the figure back together but it's just not working. I don't know what I was thinking at the time, what my real reasoning was, when I heard the news I just lost control of myself and I became a monster.

if this is true, that's just STUPID! that's like throwing a plate when you're angry, now you're still angry, the problem hasn't resolved itself, you have one less plate and an uneven set, AND you have to clean up the mess now

first l will give advice. Grosby you need anger managment. that was a stupid thing to do over a stupid reason.

I can't believe how many of you blokes actually reckon Grosby was being serious