Attention Chris Howes

[ProgMatinee]

someone please answer me. are updates even important anymore? its proven that items that looked complete already aren't even being shipped out. what the hell is an update supposed to do if the last update you had 4 months ago already showed a finished product? Is he supposed to post a pic of something better than that? Boxes? Him at the post office? What?

At this point what I need for assurance is someone to come to this thread with "I just got my product from Chris Howes".

 

[KBA]

This seems to be something you're misunderstanding other people saying.

The fact that Chris is taking money for sculpts, and apparently isn't commincating in any way that could be seen as acceptable behaviour for a businessman, which is what he is] by doing this, is what people are getting upset about.

It doesn't seem to me that people are getting the pitchforks and torches out, they're just voicing their frustration and anger at having little to no communication or updates, after being given excuse after excuse for things which can be taken care of so easily.

But then again, that's just my two pennies.

Exactly. I haven't demanded for a refund yet. I love Chris' House sculpt. collector49 started this thread with the intention of trying to get the captain to right the ship. If he doesn't there will be a mutiny on his hands. And even if he does you can bet some of the ship crew will be getting off on the next stop

 

[Kuzeh]

I'm not saying that the lack of communication has been ideal. But that's a far cry from immediately making the leap to thinking the worst of someone just because you feel you're "owed" pictures of a doll that someone is helping you with as, essentially, a favor.

Are you ^^^^ing kidding me??...
You pay $150.00 or more for favors???...
So, when you go to a strip club the girls are "doing favors" for you?...

 

[KBA]

someone please answer me. are updates even important anymore? its proven that items that looked complete already aren't even being shipped out. what the hell is an update supposed to do if the last update you had 4 months ago already showed a finished product? Is he supposed to post a pic of something better than that? Boxes? Him at the post office? What?

At this point what I need for assurance is someone to come to this thread with "I just got my product from Chris Howes".

Updates were important and the lack there of was the catalyst for this all but I fear you are right. The only thing that will calm the storm at this point is product-in-hand reports.

 

[costumeball]

Well, I'm done with the back-and-forth.

I feel I've more than said my piece, and this will be my last post in this thread.

If you feel you need a specific deadline for anything (WIP pics, progress updates, product delivery) then all of that should be addressed BEFORE submitting payment. And if you miss out on any discounts in the process, well too bad for you I guess.

Payment upfront, sight unseen, was an act of good faith, to get the project moving along, and was NOT buying into a license to make demands and issue threats when things aren't going exactly how you'd like them to.

And if you're not in a financial position to have X amount "tied up in limbo" then you should be responsible, and act accordingly.

 

[Darklord Dave]

Let's not derail this thread with childish back and forth please.

 

[ProgMatinee]

Well, I'm done with the back-and-forth.

I feel I've more than said my piece, and this will be my last post in this thread.

If you feel you need a specific deadline for anything (WIP pics, progress updates, product delivery) then all of that should be addressed BEFORE submitting payment. And if you miss out on any discounts in the process, well too bad for you I guess.

Payment upfront, sight unseen, was an act of good faith, to get the project moving along, and was NOT buying into a license to make demands and issue threats when things aren't going exactly how you'd like them to.

And if you're not in a financial position to have X amount "tied up in limbo" then you should be responsible, and act accordingly.

well, you may not see this response, but I understand what you're saying, but there is reasonableness to consider. Especially with knowledge that people that paid for product are not receiving it yet its being sold as complete on ebay.

The open timeline for him to get a work of art done is negated when proof is there that its complete. The seller doesn't have an open window to float your funds forever. Then add to that Chris isn't willing to return those funds back in the form of a refund.

 

[Deckard]

I'm not sure that getting something to drink and getting back to work is what people had in mind here.

I am glad Chris is ok, but its time to be a little more forthcoming, if there is progress on anything, this really seems like the time to prove it.

I just don't understand how soda is going to make 30 heads and variants turn up?

 

[captdan]

Well, I'm done with the back-and-forth.

I feel I've more than said my piece, and this will be my last post in this thread.

If you feel you need a specific deadline for anything (WIP pics, progress updates, product delivery) then all of that should be addressed BEFORE submitting payment. And if you miss out on any discounts in the process, well too bad for you I guess.

Payment upfront, sight unseen, was an act of good faith, to get the project moving along, and was NOT buying into a license to make demands and issue threats when things aren't going exactly how you'd like them to.

And if you're not in a financial position to have X amount "tied up in limbo" then you should be responsible, and act accordingly.

Just where are we supposed to draw the line, waiting 14 months for something that was already sculpted is being way to generous on my part.

He told me twice in that time frame that the items were shipped only to have nothing arrive, of course no tracking #s and it was all the post offices fault....

I have heard way to many excuses from him to believe anything he says any more.

Then when I asked for a refund all communication stopped.....

Enough is enough!!!!!!!!

 

[thainer]

My biggest complaint in the whole issue has not been the wait. I am patient. I have lots of other things going on that I am not at the post office weeping because my House head isn't in the mail on a given day. My problem is that I paid for the head before Christmas, have been on the list as having paid since before Christmas, and have been waiting quite patiently and silently since then only to tune into eBay one day to see that the very same House head I am waiting on is listed as for sale. I thought OK, fine, he is going to cast some extras and sell them on the Bay. I have no problem with Chris making some extra scratch. More power to him. But I also took that to mean mine was in the mail and I would have it in no time. Well, that was over a month ago and no House. Then tbh, I sort of forgot about it. I got in on the Clive Owen sculpt, did a couple of other customs, went on with my life. Then this thread came along and I am finding that there are people who have been waiting longer than I have so I figure I don't have it too bad. THEN, I read a couple of pages back that he has actually sold and delivered House sculpts on eBay and now I am angry. At the risk of being ignored completely...I would like a refund for my House sculpt, cane and the shipping I paid.

 

[die]

Do you know that Paypal confirmations arrive via . . . e-mail?

Even if he was having trouble with his email, he could still just simply log into Paypal once a day & check for payments.

 

[Doom Saber]

Well, I'm done with the back-and-forth.

I feel I've more than said my piece, and this will be my last post in this thread.

If you feel you need a specific deadline for anything (WIP pics, progress updates, product delivery) then all of that should be addressed BEFORE submitting payment. And if you miss out on any discounts in the process, well too bad for you I guess.

Payment upfront, sight unseen, was an act of good faith, to get the project moving along, and was NOT buying into a license to make demands and issue threats when things aren't going exactly how you'd like them to.

And if you're not in a financial position to have X amount "tied up in limbo" then you should be responsible, and act accordingly.

You can't really blame the customers who paid the guy since from what I have read, they did seem to ask for work in progress imagees, updates, delivery, and specific deadlines which Chris Howes promised him on. The blame, imo, is on both Chris Howes and the customers who kept offerin him commission projects.

Remember, it takes two to tango. Besides, if Chris Howes did post updates every so often, he wouldn't have impatient commissioners who are questionin about his disappearances.

Then again, you stated pages ago that you are playin Devil's Advocate

 

[toyadventurer]

Chris has replied. He has stated that he is overloaded with personal work. He also stated he would be getting back to the work here as soon as he can and some projects will be shipping in the near future. Now would be the time to be fair and give him the same benefit of the doubt that other artists have received, even though they have had outstanding work hanging around for twice as long as Chris.

 

[The Drizzle]

Chris has replied. He has stated that he is overloaded with personal work. He also stated he would be getting back to the work here as soon as he can and some projects will be shipping in the near future. Now would be the time to be fair and give him the same benefit of the doubt that other artists have received even though they have had outstanding work hanging around for twice as long as Chris.

I think that's pretty fair, though he still needs to address Terminator and I, who want refunds, and it would be nice to know for those of you that still want stuff why ebayers get stuff first.

 

[mosaicsquare]

oh really?... hmm how about refunds? I mean no hard feelings or anything but what if more personal matters spark up before he even gets back to work or shipping? I would much rather take my business to other sculptors who have less problems... and why cant he publicly address this?

 

[Doom Saber]

oh really?... hmm how about refunds? I mean no hard feelings or anything but what if more personal matters spark up before he even gets back to work or shipping? I would much rather take my business to other sculptors who have less problems... and why cant he publicly address this?

It is quite odd because he has made a comment here today and if I am not mistaken, he did not allude to any personal stuff other than that he has been really really busy.

 

[Spenser]

This is advice to Chris:

Work on ONE thing, Just ONE, get it done molded cast and sent out and move on to the next.

You are all over the place with WIPs

Make a quick list of the projects and punch them out one at a time in order. Don’t deviate from the list or skip to another sculpt lower on the list.

Sculpting on one thing a little and then another a little just takes way too long to get the work done.

Some of this stuff is obviously done because you sold them on eBay. No cool, but at least everyone know they’re completed, molded, and cast.

 

[Studio49]

I don't think it would be too far out of line to start a new thread for refund requests from Mr. Howes. The first post in that thread could list all those who want a refund, what item they are requesting a refund for, and the amount. Then they can update that thread once they receive a refund.

Mr. Howes has stated that he will gladly refund people who are dissatisfied with his work. I think he needs to honor that commitment.

Personally, I want a refund for the Maximus project. I am finally in email communication regarding the House head set, but it is not really progressing like I want it to.

 

[mosaicsquare]

i guess i misread toyadventurer's post... anyhow howes' service is a huge cluster^^^^. I'd like to just get my money back and go to serang or spense for a house sculpt. I'm just assuming but I cant help it but get this feeling he doesn't even know who has paid him or not.... because everytime someone on the House thread asks him for an updated list on payments and shipping details the guy just dodges.

 

[The Drizzle]

I don't think it would be too far out of line to start a new thread for refund requests from Mr. Howes. The first post in that thread could list all those who want a refund, what item they are requesting a refund for, and the amount. Then they can update that thread once they receive a refund.

Mr. Howes has stated that he will gladly refund people who are dissatisfied with his work. I think he needs to honor that commitment.

I like this idea very much. I'll leave it to one of you guys that organizes things well to do it, though, but count me in.