Avatar: The Way of Water

[MeatHookGekko]

Nothing will kill the theater business faster than $100 tickets. Hell, $45 tickets will kill it.

I suspect the video game industry will be the death of the traditional movie industry. There are successive generations of kids and teenagers who aren't going to movies on the regular. Not like many people here did ( because many people here are in their 40's and 50's, not all, but a ton) Just like the average 18 year old is not coming to an older message board format like this one.

Many young people are immersed in video games and I don't blame them. They can get a good story, great score, fun cut scenes, interesting characters, interactivity, online play, countless hours of entertainment, etc, etc.

Movies used to be the only real source of "widespread spectacle"

Now video games and high level "prestige" television has eaten away at a lot of that.

People will still go see the "event" movies like Avatar, Titanic, Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc, etc, but movie theaters can't make it unless the comedies, rom coms, dramas, etc, etc make money and sell tickets too, and I don't see that happening very well in the future.

Movies have to operate in VR. The technology isn't there yet, but that's the last frontier for this kind of stuff. You put on a headset and enter into the immersive world of said "movie"

 

[Wor-Gar]

I suspect the video game industry will be the death of the traditional movie industry. There are successive generations of kids and teenagers who aren't going to movies on the regular. Not like many people here did ( because many people here are in their 40's and 50's, not all, but a ton) Just like the average 18 year old is not coming to an older message board format like this one.

Many young people are immersed in video games and I don't blame them. They can get a good story, great score, fun cut scenes, interesting characters, interactivity, online play, countless hours of entertainment, etc, etc.

Movies used to be the only real source of "widespread spectacle"

Now video games and high level "prestige" television has eaten away at a lot of that.

People will still go see the "event" movies like Avatar, Titanic, Harry Potter, Star Wars, etc, etc, but movie theaters can't make it unless the comedies, rom coms, dramas, etc, etc make money and sell tickets too, and I don't see that happening very well in the future.

Movies have to operate in VR. The technology isn't there yet, but that's the last frontier for this kind of stuff. You put on a headset and enter into the immersive world of said "movie"

Totally agree.

 

[Ramatuelle]

NYT says this thing is not performing as expected. People at the studio are claiming its because 3 hours and however many minutes is too long for people to set aside on a holiday weekend.

That may be true, but it could also be because:

*It is indeed too long, but not just on a holiday weekend. Its too long anytime, and

*the plot sounds like a total snoozefest.

No one who liked it can ever tell me anything concrete. "It was just really cool!" Yeah that's not enough to get me to commit to 1/4 of a day [admitted hyperbole] to sit through this. I also find Cameron's implied assertion that there is nothing and I do mean nothing more powerful on the battlefield than a mostly-naked pregnant woman/alien/whatever to be not just funny, but literally fall-down-on-the-ground-laughing funny. Yes, I dared to say it. I can suspend a lot of disbelief, but I do have my limits.

People were and are complaining about overpowered Rey, but at least she wasn't somersaulting over Kylo's TIE seven months pregnant.

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Hunh?

Here in NYC true Imax is almost $30!

Dude I just paid $8 for eggs and $5 for a quart of milk covid said hold my milk and eggs lol

Remember i’m talking whatever high premium will be in 2028-2030!

Whoa... I paid $3.49 for eggs and $.99 (usually $4.99) for a gallon of milk with a digital coupon the other day. I guess it pays to live out in the sticks.

 

[choombaz]

Whoah those US pieces!

In Australia:
Paid $26AU ($17.40US) for Imax ticket
$4.20AU ($2.80US) for eggs
$1.60AU ($1.07US) for milk

Man and I thought it was expensive here. Last time I ever complain about prices.

 

[jye4ever]

 

[Darth Snoopy]

Deleted Way of Water scene that would have added 20 minutes of footage...

Spoiler

 

[Wor-Gar]

Villeneuve: What is it like to make candy for children?

Cameron: I don't know, what is it like to take great material and make it boring?




You know that's what you want to see.

 

[choombaz]

I know I’m going to get dumped on but I don’t care …

Cameron: what’s it like to take a boring book and make it amaze balls

 

[Wor-Gar]

Villeneuve vs Cameron is probably one of the greatest director fights ever. I mean, they are just so opposite in everything they do.

 

[JMT1979]

I know I’m going to get dumped on but I don’t care …

Cameron: what’s it like to take a boring book and make it amaze balls

Neither the book nor the movie are boring.

I assume you're referring to Dune, an all-time classic book with a Goodreads score of 4.25 from 1.1 million votes vs and IMDb score of 8/10 from 630k votes, so it seems that they're pretty even with general audiences, with the book having a slight edge.

 

[Wor-Gar]

Sheesh... people getting serious about a joke.

 

[ironwez20]

We talking about the dune book?

 

[Khev]

We talking about the dune book?

Well only like three of us decided to give Avatar a chance so what else are people gonna talk about, lol.

As for me I'm about to head out to double its Monday profits to get the full HFR experience, woohoo!

 

[ironwez20]

Well only like three of us decided to give Avatar a chance so what else are people gonna talk about, lol.

As for me I'm about to head out to double its Monday profits to get the full HFR experience, woohoo!

Jimmy c will be proud!

 

[ebor]

Also, what's the BEST scene in Avatar 2?

Everyone seems to have enjoyed it but I don't hear a real excitement about the film. It's kind of "yeah I liked it... Next" review. People 'talked' about Maverick -- like specific scenes that rocked -- but here most people point out the same flaws and are either put off by them or tolerate them for the larger experience. What Avatar scenes rocked?

The water…the scenes with the water…and the blue cats…yeah those were memorable moments…

 

[spindrift]

What happened to the almost $200 million weekend box office?

Was not impressive- next two weeks will be make or break. Local theatre here was weak in attendance,

 

[JMT1979]

What happened to the almost $200 million weekend box office?

Was not impressive- next two weeks will be make or break. Local theatre here was weak in attendance,

My cinema on Sunday at 10:20am was only 1/3 full - I was very surprised.

 

[Wor-Gar]

This is the Way of Water... it just slips away...

 

[MeatHookGekko]

Whoah those US pieces!

In Australia:
Paid $26AU ($17.40US) for Imax ticket
$4.20AU ($2.80US) for eggs
$1.60AU ($1.07US) for milk

Man and I thought it was expensive here. Last time I ever complain about prices.

My girlfriend's husband buys the groceries, so I don't know what things cost anymore.

Here is where Avatar 2 can get potentially interesting. Investors might not believe in Avatar 3, but they will believe in a sequel to Aliens and a sequel to Terminator. I'm talking actual James Cameron productions top to bottom. It would essentially be a license to print money. I mean how many of you would rush to the theaters if Hicks, Newt and Ripley were still alive and Alien 3 forward all were flushed from canon?

When Eddie Murphy needed a hit, he went back to Beverly Hills Cop 3. When Will Smith lost his luster, he did another Bad Boys movie and another Men In Black movie. Even Harrison Ford saddled back up for Han Solo and Indy because he had a long string of bombs.

How bad does Cameron want Avatar 3? Enough to make Terminator 3 and Alien 3 on his terms in exchange for the financing for his passion project?