Avengers: Endgame

[rushmore223]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

You still have a chance to catch up with the 4k blu rays, they are only halfway so far


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I do buy a lot of 4K's, but if I have a 3D version, I almost always choose to watch that. Getting tired of double dipping

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[punisher1974]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

After 10 years of MCU, I could do with a little Hellraiser insanity.

The 80's had something for everyone.

I read that there is a remake in the process right now.

 

[jye4ever]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)



Hulk-fly even has the one shriveled arm, lol.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Poor Hulk, he and Tony Stark are the founders of the MCU, and not only does no one remember The Incredible Hulk movie since it was overshadowed by the success of Iron Man, 10 years later, both are in the "final" film, both use the gauntlet, and the film will forever be remembered for I Am Iron Man. Tony got a memorial, with all the heroes honoring him. The world remembers his sacrifice. Hulk...not even a "Hey, thanks, man." Nope, he just stood in the back, unnoticed, with his little weird skinny arm. The final film of the saga, and he's more forgettable than Hackeye's haircut. That's hulk's legacy.

 

[e30ernest]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I started this list thinking about combatants in some other thread, but got to thinking about fatalities. If you do the math, the good guys have been doing extremely well for 22 films and 11 years of intense, high stakes combat.

• 17% fatality rate.
• 20% if you count Gamora 1 dying on Vormir.
• 3% permanent injury (Rhodes -- still active).

*I don't count the death of Evil Nebula above.

Based on the following list:

1. Iron Man (deceased)
2. Hulk (now Professor Hulk)
3. War Machine
4. Black Widow (deceased)
5. Thor
6. Captain America (retired)
7. Hawkeye (retired)
8. Starlord
9. Gamora (Gamora 1 deceased, Gamora 2 whereabouts unknown)
10. Drax
11. Groot
12. Rocket
13. Scarlet Witch
14. Quicksilver (deceased)
15. Vision (deceased)
16. Ant-Man
17. Spider-Man
18. Dr. Strange
19. The Ancient One (deceased)
20. Wong
21. Nebula (Nebula 1 deceased, Nebula 2 status unknown)
22. Mantis
23. Valkyrie
24. Korg
25. Miek
26. Black Panther
27. Okoye
28. Shuri
29. The Wasp
30. Captain Marvel

Not taking into account these:

NETFLIX
1. Daredevil (status unknown)
2. Elektra (presumed dead)
3. Jessica Jones
4. Luke Cage
5. Misty Knight
6. Iron Fist
7. Hellcat (status unknown)
8. The Punisher

TELEVISION (I haven't even seen these)
1. 2014 Agents of SHIELD (Quake, Ghostrider, etc.?)
2. 2015 Agent Carter (set in 1946)
3. 2017 Inhumans

As for AoS, Coulson and Fitz are dead (a second/past Fitz is floating somewhere in stasis in space). Yo-yo is permanently disabled (lost both arms), Hunter/Morse are off to their own adventures, Agent Tripp is dead and Lincoln (Quake's electric BF) is dead. Oh and Ward is dead too.

There are a bunch of supporting cast (both heroes and villains that flip-flop between good and bad) that are dead too.

Yeah ironwez I agree bring on the MCU street dudes.

I'd prefer to see the AoS characters in first IMO. They already did a callback to the TV shows by using the TV's version of Edwin Jarvis in EG. EG is set 5 years in the future though so I don't know where the AoS characters would be at that moment (all I know is the main protagonists will be in space during the period between IW and EG).

 

[Wor-Gar]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

That little screaming Hulk head is very funny.


I'm tempted to add a frame of it to my laughing Jack sig.

 

[Ropen]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

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Oh were you going bro marvel will still release 8 marvel films between now and 2022, even the Star Wars slate is filled until 2026

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[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Today the Russos spelled out when they determined that Cap was worthy to lift Mjolnir.

Spoiler tags for anyone preferring to keep their own interpretation:

Spoiler

He was always worthy. Steve realized he could lift the hammer in AOU but chose not to out of consideration for Thor's ego. Thor's "I knew it!" was because he saw Cap move the hammer at the party and had always suspected that he could ever since.

 

[loki2371]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Today the Russos spelled out when they determined that Cap was worthy to lift Mjolnir.

Spoiler tags for anyone preferring to keep their own interpretation:

Spoiler

He was always worthy. Steve realized he could lift the hammer in AOU but chose not to out of consideration for Thor's ego. Thor's "I knew it!" was because he saw Cap move the hammer at the party and had always suspected that he could ever since.

So the Russo's decided what a scene in a movie they had absolutely nothing to do with meant to them.... Ok then.

Hollywood ego's.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Today the Russos spelled out when they determined that Cap was worthy to lift Mjolnir.

Spoiler tags for anyone preferring to keep their own interpretation:

Spoiler

He was always worthy. Steve realized he could lift the hammer in AOU but chose not to out of consideration for Thor's ego. Thor's "I knew it!" was because he saw Cap move the hammer at the party and had always suspected that he could ever since.

It makes sense to me. I'll go with it.....although..was Tony Stark still not worthy by Endgame? We'll never know.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I think Tony was a Cap level hero in EG so I'd say yes. He had everything to lose but risked giving it up (and did in fact give it up) for the sake of Peter and countless others.

 

[a-dev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I think Tony was a Cap level hero in EG so I'd say yes. He had everything to lose but risked giving it up (and did in fact give it up) for the sake of Peter and countless others. Hell I could see Mjolnir just deciding that everyone who showed up in that moment was worthy, though I doubt that's what the Russos had in mind.

Yeah, and if it's admitted that Thor has an ego then Tony also having an ego wouldn't have been a problem.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Tony sacrificed himself in the first Avenger film and in IW, before Strange stopped Thanos. Is that what it takes, a sacrifice?

Either way, I rather believe Steve became worthy when he told Tony the truth. Otherwise, it'd be weird that Cap didn't use the hammer before EG. Besides, that's Russo fan fiction, since they had nothing to do with AOU.

 

[loki2371]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

I think Tony was a Cap level hero in EG so I'd say yes. He had everything to lose but risked giving it up (and did in fact give it up) for the sake of Peter and countless others. Hell I could see Mjolnir just deciding that everyone who showed up in that moment was worthy, though I doubt that's what the Russos had in mind.

Ummmm.. It doesn't work that way!!

"Odin bestowed various enchantments upon the hammer, including one that made it impossible for anyone to lift it except someone who was truly worthy of wielding it. Odin then declared that he was reserving the use of Mjolnir for Thor, who would receive it on the day that great deeds of selfless valor had proved him worthy of its power. Finally, when Thor was sixteen, Odin sent him and his friends Balder and Sif on a quest to teach him what was truly required to wield Mjolnir which was a pure heart."

No way in hell does Mr. Stark have a pure heart. He Never would've been able to lift Mjolnir.

 

[loki2371]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Besides, that's Russo fan fiction, since they had nothing to do with AOU.

Exactly what I said... The Russo's think they are now Feige's equal. Making **** up that suits their plot holes.

Such Hubris from these mere mortals. They are not worthy either...

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Ummmm.. It doesn't work that way!!

"Odin bestowed various enchantments upon the hammer, including one that made it impossible for anyone to lift it except someone who was truly worthy of wielding it. Odin then declared that he was reserving the use of Mjolnir for Thor, who would receive it on the day that great deeds of selfless valor had proved him worthy of its power. Finally, when Thor was sixteen, Odin sent him and his friends Balder and Sif on a quest to teach him what was truly required to wield Mjolnir which was a pure heart."

No way in hell does Mr. Stark have a pure heart. He Never would've been able to lift Mjolnir.

Your quoted text is not from the MCU so is in no way definitive with respect to the rules of the films. What does and does not make someone "worthy" is completely up to speculation outside of Thor and Captain America, respectively.

I guess I could see a case being made either way with respect to Tony. And the Russos were given the keys to the super-narrative so if they want to make their interpretation of a previously ambiguous scene canon then that's their prerogative.

 

[loki2371]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Your quoted text is not from the MCU so is in no way definitive with respect to the rules of the films. What does and does not make someone "worthy" is completely up to speculation outside of Thor and Captain America, respectively.

Yeah, I get that. But they get to make **** up as they go along.. Whatever suits their story over 80 years of history.

Imagine how many people would be able to use it them. The thousands of Firemen, Military and Police Officers that put their lives on the line every day to save complete strangers... There would be a looong line of people worthy.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Tony sacrificed himself in the first Avenger film and in IW, before Strange stopped Thanos. Is that what it takes, a sacrifice?

Either way, I rather believe Steve became worthy when he told Tony the truth. Otherwise, it'd be weird that Cap didn't use the hammer before EG. Besides, that's Russo fan fiction, since they had nothing to do with AOU.

Well you're certainly free to ignore AEG if AOU (or your assumption of what Joss Whedon was trying to say in AOU) is sacred. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Khev]

Re: Avengers: Endgame (April 26th, 2019)

Yeah, I get that. But they get to make **** up as they go along.. Whatever suits their story over 80 years of history.

Imagine how many people would be able to use it them. The thousands of Firemen, Military and Police Officers that put their lives on the line every day to save complete strangers... There would be a looong line of people worthy.

Like I said I don't know the rules and can see a case being made both for and against Tony or any other heroes in AEG lifting the hammer. I believe Cap picked it up in one of the comics but that was after my time.

I think the film made it pretty clear that it was just Cap and Thor (since neither hammer nor axe "mistakenly" flew in to anyone else's hands during the battle) but it's fun to ponder nevertheless. Well fun since I don't have a chip on my shoulder about the movie I guess, lol.