I doubt many will drop it. The creatures rocked, all 3 that HT's made, it's just the movie context in which they were applied that was so-so. I'm still keeping my orders. PredAlien was an awesome creature actually, just underused.
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I doubt many will drop it. The creatures rocked, all 3 that HT's made, it's just the movie context in which they were applied that was so-so. I'm still keeping my orders. PredAlien was an awesome creature actually, just underused.
Jamal
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The HT PA will be cool, but 900 for a maquette? FAH-GET-ABOUTIT
I'll second that. It's a cool design and character that makes for great action figures, but really high end stuff, it just didn't make enough impact to make me go there. ALTHOUGH, a 1:1 bust could be one of the most badass busts you'll ever see.
Jamal
Super Freak
I dont think even Predator 2 got this much hype in the high end market with the maquettes and 1:1 AVPR stuff
P2 would make a sick maquette
P2 would make a sick maquette
Ya, P2 would, but the big hype is to push the new design because they're not even doing Predator or Alien Warrior maquettes. Again, it's a great design, but the character wasn't used well and with it's death, there's no room to see it again.
Jamal
Super Freak
Woulda been sick if Wolf killed the PA then the nuke was dropped. Predators always lose out damnit
Les Walker
Digging my way out!
FINALLY!
I have seen the frikkin' movie!
OK. I liked it.
Not LOVED...but I liked it ok.
Thanks to all the letdowns and bad press I sort of noted as I tried in vain to not read here...
I was not let down.
Quickly, what I didn't like...
The people stories. Wish the Sheriff had been more badass.
Was tired of the slack stuff with the meanies, and the "Ripley" chick setup, Whatever. Would have been fine if they hadn't even been introduced, just been bystanders that got involved.
The Pred dying...AGAIN.....dammit! I came up with some great ideas on my drive home from the movie with my buddy today. (Drove 60 miles to see this thing! I wasn't letting another day go by...)
The aliens were wusses. Just critters. It was funny when the PA was in that doorway, or opening or whatever, and all of a sudden, a warrior stuck his head in there to catch the heat. Smart PA. Too funny.
It was derivative and all that. Same sound effects in that entire military segment to the Marines in ALIENS. Did they have to say the SAME LINES and have the SAME SOUND EFFECTS?
What I liked.
Simple.
WOLF! That is one bad dude!
He may be close to my fave Pred now. He doesn't look as cool as my beloved P2 Elder, or as coarse and P1, but he was cool. I was laughing at how he is the Intergalactic LEON and was the CLEANER guy, and still took time out to kill and skin him a dude. Cracked me up. I imagined him smiling, if Preds can, and thinking "What the hell..." and getting a little senseless hunting in...
Even though it was totally unnecessary in the plot.
But my favorite scene is where he is in the tree, repairing himself, ala Predator 1, and all that crap is going on around him, you can hear folks screaming from the OH SO FAST Alien infestation, and he looks like he's going, "WHAT THE F..." And "THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND..." that sort of thing.
And, when he killed the IBBB (Incredibly Beautiful Blonde Babe), which I knew was coming from the all too revealing previews, I laughed and was like, MAD PREDATOR IN THE HOUSE! DON'T GO RUNNING ABOUT FOOLISHLY!
Laughed at that one. Was sad to see the IBBB die though. Laughed when fella that liked her lost it though. Went all John Maclane until he experienced what should have been INSTANT DEATH, and like...lived. Still not sure about that....
Anyway, I will buy it. Liked it. Less than AVP actually, as a movie, but old Wolfie stole my heart. What movies could have been made if they had allowed him to go jump in the pond and get away at the end.
The tears I cry are for him...
Maybe we will see some comics tales of him before this story. I would enjoy that.
:chew:chew:chew Three dancing wookies. And that's stretching it.
All for the Wolf!
I have seen the frikkin' movie!
OK. I liked it.
Not LOVED...but I liked it ok.
Thanks to all the letdowns and bad press I sort of noted as I tried in vain to not read here...
I was not let down.Quickly, what I didn't like...
The people stories. Wish the Sheriff had been more badass.
Was tired of the slack stuff with the meanies, and the "Ripley" chick setup, Whatever. Would have been fine if they hadn't even been introduced, just been bystanders that got involved.
The Pred dying...AGAIN.....dammit! I came up with some great ideas on my drive home from the movie with my buddy today. (Drove 60 miles to see this thing! I wasn't letting another day go by...)
The aliens were wusses. Just critters. It was funny when the PA was in that doorway, or opening or whatever, and all of a sudden, a warrior stuck his head in there to catch the heat. Smart PA. Too funny.
It was derivative and all that. Same sound effects in that entire military segment to the Marines in ALIENS. Did they have to say the SAME LINES and have the SAME SOUND EFFECTS?
What I liked.
Simple.
WOLF! That is one bad dude!
He may be close to my fave Pred now. He doesn't look as cool as my beloved P2 Elder, or as coarse and P1, but he was cool. I was laughing at how he is the Intergalactic LEON and was the CLEANER guy, and still took time out to kill and skin him a dude. Cracked me up. I imagined him smiling, if Preds can, and thinking "What the hell..." and getting a little senseless hunting in...
Even though it was totally unnecessary in the plot.
But my favorite scene is where he is in the tree, repairing himself, ala Predator 1, and all that crap is going on around him, you can hear folks screaming from the OH SO FAST Alien infestation, and he looks like he's going, "WHAT THE F..." And "THIS IS GETTING OUT OF HAND..." that sort of thing.
And, when he killed the IBBB (Incredibly Beautiful Blonde Babe), which I knew was coming from the all too revealing previews, I laughed and was like, MAD PREDATOR IN THE HOUSE! DON'T GO RUNNING ABOUT FOOLISHLY!
Laughed at that one. Was sad to see the IBBB die though. Laughed when fella that liked her lost it though. Went all John Maclane until he experienced what should have been INSTANT DEATH, and like...lived. Still not sure about that....
Anyway, I will buy it. Liked it. Less than AVP actually, as a movie, but old Wolfie stole my heart. What movies could have been made if they had allowed him to go jump in the pond and get away at the end.
The tears I cry are for him...
Maybe we will see some comics tales of him before this story. I would enjoy that.
:chew:chew:chew Three dancing wookies. And that's stretching it.
All for the Wolf!
p!tu
Shiz-lakin-a-craka-lakin™
dude!!! i was thinking the same thing about LEON!!!!!
Just saw it as well and here's my review.
Was it better than AVP? Hmm..yes and no.
I think this movie did a lot better building up the human characters but I think there was TOO MUCH of that. I was more intrigued by Wolf Predator and seeing what he was doing, I think there should've been more focus on him than some of the human characters.
I still...STILL...DO NOT LIKE THE ALIEN XENOMORPHS IN MODERN TIMES. One thing I think that AVP actually one-upped AVP:R on was location. Though it took place in modern times, AVP had this temple in the middle of nowhere, it was still foreign...still strange...much like the future (as depicted in the other Alien movies). But this whole modern-day town in Colorado...I feel bringing the Aliens there is really not where they belong and almost cheapens the characters to put them in the same league as other "modern" monsters like werewolves, vampires, etc. Kinda like "Jason X"...WTF is Jason doing in the future?
Wolf Predator was certainly bad-ass. I really liked him and loved the design of the character and you could tell that Ian Whyte (and whatever stunt doubles) could move and act much better in this outfit than he could as Scar, Celtic and the other Predators from AVP. I loved seeing Wolf on-screen and like I mentioned above I would've loved to have seen more of him than some of the human characters. I also would've liked it if he lived in the end...but oh well...he finished the job.
The PredAlien was a great design as well but ultimately it, and the rest of the Aliens were basically running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Obviously, the PredAlien was the Alpha dog because he was the biggest and could actually reproduce but I feel ultimately the Aliens were just running rampart around the town instead of playing smart (which would've been to try and themselves out and about more like any parasite would). Though I attribute this to the lack of a Hive mind...aka an Alien Queen. I did however like that the scenes with Aliens for the most part were kept dark, like they should be, and used the "less is more" technique of filming as revealing too much of these creatures gives it away.
Aside from other issues that have been named before: like the storyline rushing, FOX keeping the leash down tight, too much humans, the location, etc. it was a decent film at best. It was more of a monster/gorefest than it was a suspenseful,scary horror movie like ALIEN...I think at times it TRIED to be scary, but just didn't work.
In all honesty, if Fox does a AVP3...just keep it ALIENS & PREDATORS with little to NO humans involved...oh and in the future...oh and on some remote planet or something. I'd actually like to see if a writer could come up with a script that is told from the perspective of the Predators...the comics/novels certainly have done some damn good jobs.
Was it better than AVP? Hmm..yes and no.
I think this movie did a lot better building up the human characters but I think there was TOO MUCH of that. I was more intrigued by Wolf Predator and seeing what he was doing, I think there should've been more focus on him than some of the human characters.
I still...STILL...DO NOT LIKE THE ALIEN XENOMORPHS IN MODERN TIMES. One thing I think that AVP actually one-upped AVP:R on was location. Though it took place in modern times, AVP had this temple in the middle of nowhere, it was still foreign...still strange...much like the future (as depicted in the other Alien movies). But this whole modern-day town in Colorado...I feel bringing the Aliens there is really not where they belong and almost cheapens the characters to put them in the same league as other "modern" monsters like werewolves, vampires, etc. Kinda like "Jason X"...WTF is Jason doing in the future?
Wolf Predator was certainly bad-ass. I really liked him and loved the design of the character and you could tell that Ian Whyte (and whatever stunt doubles) could move and act much better in this outfit than he could as Scar, Celtic and the other Predators from AVP. I loved seeing Wolf on-screen and like I mentioned above I would've loved to have seen more of him than some of the human characters. I also would've liked it if he lived in the end...but oh well...he finished the job.
The PredAlien was a great design as well but ultimately it, and the rest of the Aliens were basically running around like chickens with their heads cut off. Obviously, the PredAlien was the Alpha dog because he was the biggest and could actually reproduce but I feel ultimately the Aliens were just running rampart around the town instead of playing smart (which would've been to try and themselves out and about more like any parasite would). Though I attribute this to the lack of a Hive mind...aka an Alien Queen. I did however like that the scenes with Aliens for the most part were kept dark, like they should be, and used the "less is more" technique of filming as revealing too much of these creatures gives it away.
Aside from other issues that have been named before: like the storyline rushing, FOX keeping the leash down tight, too much humans, the location, etc. it was a decent film at best. It was more of a monster/gorefest than it was a suspenseful,scary horror movie like ALIEN...I think at times it TRIED to be scary, but just didn't work.
In all honesty, if Fox does a AVP3...just keep it ALIENS & PREDATORS with little to NO humans involved...oh and in the future...oh and on some remote planet or something. I'd actually like to see if a writer could come up with a script that is told from the perspective of the Predators...the comics/novels certainly have done some damn good jobs.
bagelsncheesey
Super Freak
The movie kicked ass, loved it. Lots of blood, gore, Predator and Alien killings. Lots of lines from the original movies, couldn't be more satisfied.
Jamal
Super Freak
LOL thats a sick analogy man, its so true
This movie totally "Jumped the Shark". There was absolutely no need for humans other than hosts. The film should have had mainly focussed on the creatures, IMO. Hell, deer, bears and squirrels could have been hosts and the film would have been better.
Jamal
Super Freak
LOL thats a good idea man, the humans sucked. New strand of Alien in the form of a bear and squirrel
I disagree. Even with under an hour and a half run time, humans are still necessary in films like these where the creatures have no language, and if they ever start subtitling them, I will actually walk out of the theater, but that's a different tangent. The trouble is, both AVP films have had ****ty humans you never give a **** about or care for or anything, so they become wasted time for the viewer. Create interesting enough characters in the script and get actors who can make those written characters sing, and humans would add a lot to these films. It's really a flaw in the filmmakers. They approach these wanting focus on the creatures because it's about their fight, which is fine, but they also say hey, people aren't going to sit through this without some humans to experience things with, so they throw people into the story but they don't develop them. They need to realize, EVERYTHING in the story needs the same ammount of care and devotion. Humans, Predators and Aliens all need to get the same focus, that's how you'll have a successful AVP film.
Jamal
Super Freak
^^ Your right, more emphasis on the creatures than the humans
I actually would like to see an AVP where the emphasis is on just the creatures...with the story being told by the Predators themselves or at least from their perspective. You could have their language of clicks and gutteral noises translated via subtitles or something.
Humans could be involved, but very infrequently and could be seen as even more mysterious than the creatures themselves...perhaps even "prized" as prey by the Predators because of their ingenuity in comparison to the mindless drive of the Aliens.
It would be interesting to me to see a story develop out of a species that focuses on "the Hunt"...you can build up a clan and how they interact (just like the Colonial Marines from ALIENS), deal with the situation, fight against one another and then against the ALIENS, how they even view the Xenomorphs AND humans, and ultimately whether they triumph or fail.
Humans could be involved, but very infrequently and could be seen as even more mysterious than the creatures themselves...perhaps even "prized" as prey by the Predators because of their ingenuity in comparison to the mindless drive of the Aliens.
It would be interesting to me to see a story develop out of a species that focuses on "the Hunt"...you can build up a clan and how they interact (just like the Colonial Marines from ALIENS), deal with the situation, fight against one another and then against the ALIENS, how they even view the Xenomorphs AND humans, and ultimately whether they triumph or fail.
AdamBombOi
Super Freak
If that idea ever happened, it'd be better suited for a limited DVD release, I've got a bad feeling your typical Joe Shmoe isn't going to want to read a bunch of subtitles. I've thought ever since the video game, "Predator: Concrete Jungle" came out and I saw the cut scenes, and how beautifully animated they were, it'd be perfect for a movie.
Jamal
Super Freak
For sure man, i heard rumors the original AVP was suppose to have very limited dialogue.
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Well I saw it and liked it, I have a few thoughts.
It is apparent that whatever life form the Xenos use to breed, the Xenos are the dominant genetic structure. The PredAlien is just a beast, like the Xenos, I would have liked to have seen a little more intelligence or cunning out of it. The reproduction thing for the PredAlien made no sense unless Scar was actually impregnated with a Queen Alien egg in AVP.
The Aliens themselves were fine, no problems.
Loved the Wolf, very cool. Would have liked to have had better lighting to see him and the creatures a little better, everything was shadow.
As to the "homages" to the prior films, it didn't strike me the right way. I viewed them as just copying what had been done before, not paying homage to it. I mean the last parts or the film were combinmations of Aliens and Predator 1, right down to the APC, Newt, the Wolf injecting medicine, etc. What I really would have like to have seen was no one escaping the nuke. Having the military guys get the plasma caster out somehow before the blast and all the human characters wiped out. It would have been more impactful I think.
It is apparent that whatever life form the Xenos use to breed, the Xenos are the dominant genetic structure. The PredAlien is just a beast, like the Xenos, I would have liked to have seen a little more intelligence or cunning out of it. The reproduction thing for the PredAlien made no sense unless Scar was actually impregnated with a Queen Alien egg in AVP.
The Aliens themselves were fine, no problems.
Loved the Wolf, very cool. Would have liked to have had better lighting to see him and the creatures a little better, everything was shadow.
As to the "homages" to the prior films, it didn't strike me the right way. I viewed them as just copying what had been done before, not paying homage to it. I mean the last parts or the film were combinmations of Aliens and Predator 1, right down to the APC, Newt, the Wolf injecting medicine, etc. What I really would have like to have seen was no one escaping the nuke. Having the military guys get the plasma caster out somehow before the blast and all the human characters wiped out. It would have been more impactful I think.
DarkArtist81
Super Freak
Yeah, I feel the same way... I liked the movie, but it was mainly due to the sheer awesomeness of Wolf. The humans sucked, the Aliens didn't get much to do really and I absolutely HATED all the prior film references. Why in the Hell did they need a Ripley rip off and SOOOO many reused lines that just felt hokey and took you out of the moment?? That really killed it for me.
But the Wolf Predator redeemed this film in my eyes. The first AVP got me mad because the Predators were wusses, they just came in and got their ***** kicked and just seemed to roll over under the might of the Alien. I just didn't seem in character with them at all, even if they were just young Preds in training.
But to see the Predator homeworld and Wolf getting ready for another job got me pumped that maybe he wouldn't be such a pushover. And he didn't disappoint. I loved the bits where they showed him using fluid from the Facehugger tubes to track them via his HUD and destroying the bodies and the evidence of what occurred there. It just seemed to re-establish the mystique of the Predator and make him something to be feared again. That fact alone is what made me enjoy this film so much.
I realized while watching it how badly I just want to see another film in each series respectively. The Alien parts left me wanting more.... and so did the Predator parts...
They just need to go ahead and make more solo films...
But the Wolf Predator redeemed this film in my eyes. The first AVP got me mad because the Predators were wusses, they just came in and got their ***** kicked and just seemed to roll over under the might of the Alien. I just didn't seem in character with them at all, even if they were just young Preds in training.
But to see the Predator homeworld and Wolf getting ready for another job got me pumped that maybe he wouldn't be such a pushover. And he didn't disappoint. I loved the bits where they showed him using fluid from the Facehugger tubes to track them via his HUD and destroying the bodies and the evidence of what occurred there. It just seemed to re-establish the mystique of the Predator and make him something to be feared again. That fact alone is what made me enjoy this film so much.
I realized while watching it how badly I just want to see another film in each series respectively. The Alien parts left me wanting more.... and so did the Predator parts...
They just need to go ahead and make more solo films...
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