Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[carbo-fation]

I still prefer SR over MoS, as much as him having kid bugged me, MoS over-the top destruction and murder upset me way more. Not too mention there was no charm or heart in the film. Pa Kent was useless and forced and made me laugh when I saw the tornado scene.

 

[jye4ever]

Great morale compass, stayed with his son and wife all the way to the end until natural causes came knocking:



Disgusting character that abandoned his family when they would need him most:



I will forever soil this character with his coward act portrayed in my Sig.

 

[karamazov80]

Not too mention there was no charm or heart in the film.

This is, in my opinion, the very worst sin that the film commits. A Superman movie with no heart, and no joy, is just shameful.

 

[chewblacca]

Your a funny guy Jye! That was the thing about the Reeve Superman, when his father died it was from something he couldn't punch, burn, or out run. In MOS he could of saved his father a dozen different ways and never been seen. Sloppy unimaginative writing to get rid of a character. Utterly destroying the point it was trying to make.

 

[EVILFACE]

Great morale compass, stayed with his son and wife all the way until Clark challenged him to a race. Causing a heart attack and killing him.

Clark then makes his frail old ma walk way the fauk out in the field one early morning, just to tell her he's blowing this joint.

Fixed it.

 

[jye4ever]

"Stand back Lois.......more back."

 

[jye4ever]

Fixed it.

 

[Snake Plissken]

I still prefer SR over MoS, as much as him having kid bugged me, MoS over-the top destruction and murder upset me way more. Not too mention there was no charm or heart in the film. Pa Kent was useless and forced and made me laugh when I saw the tornado scene.

No John Williams, no Supe. That at least would of given the film a soul.

 

[Mad Old Lu]

...And what a beautiful, poignant message Supes got out of his father dying from the heart attack: "All these powers I have, and I couldn't save him." It shows how he is not a "god"--there are things even he can't do, people he can't save. He also can't be everywhere at once--what he learned from Lois dying.

And what was the message from Costner Dad dying? Secrets are important enough to die over. Um, what?

It doesn't bother me so much that Costner sacrificed himself to keep the secret. It bothers me infinitely more at how the situation played out. Supes COULD have saved him. Or even better, Supes should have been the one to go and save the dog. He could have "disappeared" in the commotion and popped up later saying he miraculously survived and pretending he didn't know how. Or he could have gone with Costner and protected him from the debris, again disappeared in the commotion and pop up again later safe.

Or, hell, just defy his father and show him and the world that it's more important to SAVE LIVES than it is to protect a secret. That SHOULD have been the message.

The whole scene just played out so contrived--like SW prequel level kind of contrived.

 

[Irvy]

...And what a beautiful, poignant message Supes got out of his father dying from the heart attack: "All these powers I have, and I couldn't save him." It shows how he is not a "god"--there are things even he can't do, people he can't save. He also can't be everywhere at once--what he learned from Lois dying.

And what was the message from Costner Dad dying? Secrets are important enough to die over. Um, what?

It doesn't bother me so much that Costner sacrificed himself to keep the secret. It bothers me infinitely more at how the situation played out. Supes COULD have saved him. Or even better, Supes should have been the one to go and save the dog. He could have "disappeared" in the commotion and popped up later saying he miraculously survived and pretending he didn't know how. Or he could have gone with Costner and protected him from the debris, again disappeared in the commotion and pop up again later safe.

Or, hell, just defy his father and show him and the world that it's more important to SAVE LIVES than it is to protect a secret. That SHOULD have been the message.

The whole scene just played out so contrived--like SW prequel level kind of contrived.

 

[pturtle]

I still prefer SR over MoS, as much as him having kid bugged me, MoS over-the top destruction and murder upset me way more. Not too mention there was no charm or heart in the film. Pa Kent was useless and forced and made me laugh when I saw the tornado scene.

That bothered everyone when it came out, I have no clue how they could have followed up with a movie after the way SR ended, but with SR now being a one-off or a quasi ending to the Reeve films, I enjoy the movie a lot more than I did when I saw it in theaters.

 

[jpuli28]

I think the msg Costner was sending was don't expose yourself it will not be favorable, hence his reception in BvS..?

 

[karamazov80]

...And what a beautiful, poignant message Supes got out of his father dying from the heart attack: "All these powers I have, and I couldn't save him." It shows how he is not a "god"--there are things even he can't do, people he can't save. He also can't be everywhere at once--what he learned from Lois dying.

And what was the message from Costner Dad dying? Secrets are important enough to die over. Um, what?

It doesn't bother me so much that Costner sacrificed himself to keep the secret. It bothers me infinitely more at how the situation played out. Supes COULD have saved him. Or even better, Supes should have been the one to go and save the dog. He could have "disappeared" in the commotion and popped up later saying he miraculously survived and pretending he didn't know how. Or he could have gone with Costner and protected him from the debris, again disappeared in the commotion and pop up again later safe.

Or, hell, just defy his father and show him and the world that it's more important to SAVE LIVES than it is to protect a secret. That SHOULD have been the message.

The whole scene just played out so contrived--like SW prequel level kind of contrived.

No offense Lu, but I think you're missing the point. As Ma Kent always says, Hopeman doesn't own anyone anything!



With the parental advice he received, it's not too hard to see how Superman turned into a deranged killer IMO. And that's. . .OK. I've come to accept that a certain fanbase wants the "dark and gritty" Superman with weird neuroses, sexual hangups, love for brutal violence, etc.

 

[carbo-fation]

...And what a beautiful, poignant message Supes got out of his father dying from the heart attack: "All these powers I have, and I couldn't save him." It shows how he is not a "god"--there are things even he can't do, people he can't save. He also can't be everywhere at once--what he learned from Lois dying.

And what was the message from Costner Dad dying? Secrets are important enough to die over. Um, what?

It doesn't bother me so much that Costner sacrificed himself to keep the secret. It bothers me infinitely more at how the situation played out. Supes COULD have saved him. Or even better, Supes should have been the one to go and save the dog. He could have "disappeared" in the commotion and popped up later saying he miraculously survived and pretending he didn't know how. Or he could have gone with Costner and protected him from the debris, again disappeared in the commotion and pop up again later safe.

Or, hell, just defy his father and show him and the world that it's more important to SAVE LIVES than it is to protect a secret. That SHOULD have been the message.

The whole scene just played out so contrived--like SW prequel level kind of contrived.

 

[carbo-fation]

No offense Lu, but I think you're missing the point. As Ma Kent always says, Hopeman doesn't own anyone anything!



With the parental advice he received, it's not too hard to see how Superman turned into a deranged killer IMO. And that's. . .OK. I've come to accept that a certain fanbase wants the "dark and gritty" Superman with weird neuroses, sexual hangups, love for brutal violence, etc.

Save that crap for Batman or other superheroes. Superman is a boy scout and above all this. He should never be made into some dark, humorless character unless its an Else World story....which this is not!

Heck this Supes was more of an ass than Hancock.

 

[a-dev]

Fixed it.

I remember making the same observation about Ma Kent seeing Clark way up on the horizon and walking out to him - he couldn't even meet her halfway?

 

[Mad Old Lu]

No offense Lu, but I think you're missing the point. As Ma Kent always says, Hopeman doesn't own anyone anything!



With the parental advice he received, it's not too hard to see how Superman turned into a deranged killer IMO. And that's. . .OK. I've come to accept that a certain fanbase wants the "dark and gritty" Superman with weird neuroses, sexual hangups, love for brutal violence, etc.

I know! His parents are jerks!

Come to think of it, it's IS an interesting avenue to explore. It would be good as a "what if" kind of story: What if Clark's parents were terrible? There was that limited series a few years back called "The Nail" where they explore a scenario where the Kents DON'T find Kal El.

Spoiler

It's later revealed that he was found by an Amish family, but was kept hidden and isolated for decades until eventually the fight came to him

I'm probably giving the the filmmakers much more credit, but they could be moving towards a "Supes is a hero DESPITE having terrible parents!"

 

[a-dev]

No offense Lu, but I think you're missing the point. As Ma Kent always says, Hopeman doesn't own anyone anything!



With the parental advice he received, it's not too hard to see how Superman turned into a deranged killer IMO. And that's. . .OK. I've come to accept that a certain fanbase wants the "dark and gritty" Superman with weird neuroses, sexual hangups, love for brutal violence, etc.

*waits for someone to give this post a very serious responding to indeed*

 

[Sundowner]

...And what a beautiful, poignant message Supes got out of his father dying from the heart attack: "All these powers I have, and I couldn't save him." It shows how he is not a "god"--there are things even he can't do, people he can't save. He also can't be everywhere at once--what he learned from Lois dying.

And what was the message from Costner Dad dying? Secrets are important enough to die over. Um, what?

It doesn't bother me so much that Costner sacrificed himself to keep the secret. It bothers me infinitely more at how the situation played out. Supes COULD have saved him. Or even better, Supes should have been the one to go and save the dog. He could have "disappeared" in the commotion and popped up later saying he miraculously survived and pretending he didn't know how. Or he could have gone with Costner and protected him from the debris, again disappeared in the commotion and pop up again later safe.

Or, hell, just defy his father and show him and the world that it's more important to SAVE LIVES than it is to protect a secret. That SHOULD have been the message.

The whole scene just played out so contrived--like SW prequel level kind of contrived.

Yeah, in the end it's like he died for nothing.

 

[EVILFACE]

*waits for someone to give this post a very serious responding to indeed*

And don't forget about Smallville Pa Kent.

He's a racist that drives around in a Confederate flag drinking moonshine.