Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[olbertfrog]

I wasn't prepared to LOL so hard...

I got gear eyed with laughter ^^

 

[carbo-fation]

TDKR was generally well liked. But you wouldn't know it since a few outspoken Freaks have made it their mission to bash it whenever possible. I haven't been able to re-watch most of the Marvel movies since I saw them in the theatre. They've lost their appeal. The only one I can watch repeatedly is TWS and GotG. I still the TDK triology is best superhero franchise put on screen.

 

[GasparZizou]

I like Nolan, I think he makes great popcorn movies, it's cool and edgy to bash him and call him pretentious nowadays but the truth is that his movies while far from artsy, they're a little higher, more educational and thought provoking than your average popcorn movie, and that's a good thing, I also think BB is a little better than Batman 89.

I'm not a Nolan hater by any means.

Having said all that... TDKR is ****.

I can watch the 1st two without a problem and they retain value, with Rises it only gets worse every time, it's not so much story-wise or concept-wise but execution: Acting, editing, dialogue, action, etc etc. Aside from a few good scenes, the rest of the time is eye rolling time.

TDKR was generally well liked because much like Iron Man 3, it carried the hype momentum of TDK, that's the only reason, not the quality of the movie.

imo.

 

[jye4ever]

If I had to choose between BB and Batman 89, I would definately now go with BB.

But when I hear the word Batman the first thing that comes to my mind is 89 costume and 89 batmobile.

 

[ironwez20]

I pretend tdkr didn't exist. Terrible movie. As a batman fan I hate it. Hated that stupid interpretation of robin and catwoman and hated everything about "batman" in the movie. O well done and gone.

 

[GasparZizou]

What did you hate about Catwoman? I thought it was a pretty spot on interpretation.

 

[Khev]

If I had to choose between BB and Batman 89, I would definately now go with BB.

Agreed. I watched the whole TDK trilogy sometime last year and was shocked at how good BB still is. Not even TDK holds up that well IMO. That movie really is about the Ledger scenes, take those away and it isn't very captivating. Plus it was a mistake to give Two-Face the final showdown instead of Joker.

 

[ironwez20]

What did you hate about Catwoman? I thought it was a pretty spot on interpretation.

No love for cats, no whips, scared of bane (catwoman fears nothing) those dumb cat ear goggles.

Despite the supernatural element I'd say returns catwoman is the most spot on and also 60s was good to.

 

[jye4ever]

Agreed. I watched the whole TDK trilogy sometime last year and was shocked at how good BB still is. Not even TDK holds up that well IMO. That movie really is about the Ledger scenes, take those away and it isn't very captivating. Plus it was a mistake to give Two-Face the final showdown instead of Joker.

Which Joker is your favorite, 89 or TDK?

 

[Khev]

Which Joker is your favorite, 89 or TDK?

Ooh, good question. I probably enjoy B89 as a movie more than TDK but Joker to Joker I'd have to give it to Ledger. For me Nicholson was pretty much an equal contributor to the success of B89 along with Keaton, the Danny Elfman score and overall production design (Gotham, Batsuit, Batmobile, Batwing.) But Ledger pretty much carried TDK entirely on his own shoulders. Even in the midst of the mundane Chicago cityscape, disappointing Rachel and silly Bale voice he made the whole thing genuinely freaky.

 

[jye4ever]

I agree with how Ledger made TDK better, interrogation scene is amazing.

But my vote goes for Jack.

Ledger's "want to know how I got my scar" got old, and Jack has so many memorable lines and moments that it has become timeless.

 

[ironwez20]

I could never un see Jack Nicholson when I see his joker but that's just me.

 

[karamazov80]

Dark Knight Rises wasn't great. If it was in the Marvel Studios-verse, it would be near the bottom of the pile. But it was better than all the other non-Nolan DC movies we've had over the past 20+ years, by a pretty wide margin. Hopefully one of these new ones will change that.

 

[a-dev]

The biggest disappointment about TDKR for me was the fighting and the action generally. I thought it was all pretty badly done and not very exciting.

 

[karamazov80]

 

[Sachiel]

I see it's that time of the month.

 

[EVILFACE]

Even with flaws, it's still a good movie. My biggest problem with Rises is it ruins the burden Batman assumes at the end of the TDK.

"Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."

Batman then retires.....

 

[ironwez20]

The biggest disappointment about TDKR for me was the fighting and the action generally. I thought it was all pretty badly done and not very exciting.

Yea that bane fight was so boring. i remember the nolan boys kept saying it was such a tense fight but i remember being bored out my mind. Not to mention I thought Bane was going to break his back lifting batman over his head.

 

[batfan08]

Even with flaws, it's still a good movie. My biggest problem with Rises is it ruins the burden Batman assumes at the end of the TDK.

"Because he's the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So we'll hunt him. Because he can take it. Because he's not our hero. He's a silent guardian. A watchful protector. A Dark Knight."

Batman then retires.....

I never understood this logic. What was Batman supposed to do? If your story is that Gotham's vigilante protector went crazy and murdered five people, how is that really going to hold up when he immediately goes back to the status quo? What is he supposed to do? Start killing people for real?

If he goes back to just beating up thugs and leaving them incapacitated for the cops, then, suddenly, the lie that you told Jim Gordon to tell self-destructs, and so, too, do the years of "clean streets" that come with it. The only other thing I can think of is that he buys a cheap Batman costume like all those cops did and pretends to be one of the copycats, instead of the actual Batman.

 

[ironwez20]

I never understood this logic. What was Batman supposed to do? If your story is that Gotham's vigilante protector went crazy and murdered five people, how is that really going to hold up when he immediately goes back to the status quo? What is he supposed to do? Start killing people for real?

If he goes back to just beating up thugs and leaving them incapacitated for the cops, then, suddenly, the lie that you told Jim Gordon to tell self-destructs, and so, too, do the years of "clean streets" that come with it. The only other thing I can think of is that he buys a cheap Batman costume like all those cops did and pretends to be one of the copycats, instead of the actual Batman.

I mean he actually did start killing people for real in rises lol. Did't he shoot talia with that bat plane thing or did she die from the crash?