Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[IrishJedi]

2:31 means there are about 15-20 minutes of Deleted Scenes.

 

[jye4ever]

Movie length has as much to do with quality as a trailer does.

 

[IrishJedi]

Movie length has as much to do with quality as a trailer does.

True that. For example, I still maintain that the Theatrical cut of FOTR is a masterpiece, while the Extended... is not.

Often times, less is more.

 

[Rorywan]

True that. For example, I still maintain that the Theatrical cut of FOTR is a masterpiece, while the Extended... is not.

Often times, less is more.

yes,
Watchmen.
First extended cut good. Super duper extended cut bad.


The entire Suckerpunch movie was *more*, *less* would have been better, a lot *less* would have been excellent.

 

[IrishJedi]

Yeah, the "Director's Cut" of WATCHMEN is also my preferred cut. The Ultimate is... interesting, but works best as an example of how a graphic novel like WATCHMEN really can't be translated 100% to a film adaptation. The mediums are just too different. I appreciated the effort, though.

 

[IrishJedi]

Well, since EW posted it.... Umm yeah... about those silly rumors

Justice League begins shooting April 11 | EW.com

 

[Rorywan]

Yeah, the "Director's Cut" of WATCHMEN is also my preferred cut. The Ultimate is... interesting, but works best as an example of how a graphic novel like WATCHMEN really can't be translated 100% to a film adaptation. The mediums are just too different. I appreciated the effort, though.

I actually really like the DC of Watchmen. The Ultimate includes too much substandard material along with the good stuff. I always liked Tales/Black Freighter but it's shoehorned in there with some pretty awful scenes/acting at the news stand.

 

[Rorywan]

Well, since EW posted it.... Umm yeah... about those silly rumors

Justice League begins shooting April 11 | EW.com

Well I can imagine why they are announcing it now so quickly. It will sort of quash any misgivings about BVS (if there are any, we live in hope). It's kinda like not giving people the chance to ***** and moan.

 

[IrishJedi]

Well I can imagine why they are announcing it now so quickly. It will sort of quash any misgivings about BVS (if there are any, we live in hope). It's kinda like not giving people the chance to ***** and moan.

Well, that and that Zack is already in London prepping and everyone else flies out within the next 2 weeks. The cat was going to get out of the bag at some point soon.

 

[Rorywan]

Well, that and that Zack is already in London prepping and everyone else flies out within the next 2 weeks.

Yeah, I read that, but what I meant was that WB are taking the confident route by not waiting for audience responses to BVS and running ahead with Justice League.
I have little doubt BVS will make a **** load of money, but like MOS may suffer "new toy syndrome" after the novelty has worn off and it gets some real critique. This is a clever way of paving over that, lets not stop long enough for too much bad press (if there is any).

 

[IrishJedi]

Yeah, I read that, but what I meant was that WB are taking the confident route by not waiting for audience responses to BVS and running ahead with Justice League.
I have little doubt BVS will make a **** load of money, but like MOS may suffer "new toy syndrome" after the novelty has worn off and it gets some real critique. This is a clever way of paving over that, lets not stop long enough for too much bad press (if there is any).

Yeah, good point! The studios do like to get out in front of news like this and be in "control" of the media narrative when they can. It also helps prevent rumors like we saw fester last week.

 

[ZombieRepublican]

Movie will be 2:31 minutes long (as it should).

I'm probably alone on this one but I honestly wouldn't mind if they make these movies (specially the Marvel ones) even 3h long. The more the merrier.

On the cinema a movie this length can be difficult to sit through, that's a big ask for audiences.

A 3-hour cut bluray is a totally different story though. That I would while heatedly accept

 

[Khev]

Yeah, good point! The studios do like to get out in front of news like this and be in "control" of the media narrative when they can. It also helps prevent rumors like we saw fester last week.

On the flip side I do think the whole "10 year road map" that was started by Marvel and that WB is piggybacking on is pretty annoying. The first Avengers was the culmination of so much buildup and was this grand thing and then I remember how quite a few of us were put off by Disney's marketing machine pimping Civil War and Infinity War prior to Age of Ultron to the point where THOSE were the movies I found myself wanting to see which greatly tempered my enthusiasm for AoU.

 

[Bardoon]

Agreed. Reigns needs to develop in the mid-card...

All the top stars had healthy time in the midcard and/or tag ranks to develop themselves and their characters: Stone Cold, The Rock, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Bret Hart, and yes, even John Cena.

Unfortunately, Vince doesn't have that healthy cadre of wrestling-experienced writers and executive like he did in the past. He and Kevin Dunn just go based on looks alone. Triple H isn't going to challenge him anytime soon and likely won't make his 'move' until Vince retires. I hear a healthy dose of how NXT has been doing extremely well and that's rumored to be Triple H's playground...so he is certainly doing well there. Unfortunately Vince and his Yes-Men (like Dunn) still run the WWE and it doesn't look to change until he leaves.

 

[IrishJedi]

On the flip side I do think the whole "10 year road map" that was started by Marvel and that WB is piggybacking on is pretty annoying. The first Avengers was the culmination of so much buildup and was this grand thing and then I remember how quite a few of us were put off by Disney's marketing machine pimping Civil War and Infinity War prior to Age of Ultron to the point where THOSE were the movies I find myself wanting to see which greatly tempered my enthusiasm for AoU.

I think it's beyond just superhero movies, though. Hollywood does this weird thing these days where movies and release dates are announced before anyone has even thought of starting on a script, much less casting. It's indeed annoying. And it shows that these are all just portfolio ventures for shareholders more than anything else (to the studios).

 

[greygoose]

The thing DC has going for it is that there will always be a market to keep rebooting the Batman movies with new actors in the role of Batman. The mass audience will always go and watch new Batman movies. What does Marvel do after Infinity War Part 2, would audiences still go and see a reboot of Cap A, Thor or Ant-Man etc? I imagine Spider-Man will be their main focus.

 

[a-dev]

On the flip side I do think the whole "10 year road map" that was started by Marvel and that WB is piggybacking on is pretty annoying. The first Avengers was the culmination of so much buildup and was this grand thing and then I remember how quite a few of us were put off by Disney's marketing machine pimping Civil War and Infinity War prior to Age of Ultron to the point where THOSE were the movies I find myself wanting to see which greatly tempered my enthusiasm for AoU.

Yep. Not only did it lessen my excitement for AoU it may actually have negatively influenced how I felt about the film when I saw it.

 

[a-dev]

Agreed. Reigns needs to develop in the mid-card...

All the top stars had healthy time in the midcard and/or tag ranks to develop themselves and their characters: Stone Cold, The Rock, Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Bret Hart, and yes, even John Cena.

Unfortunately, Vince doesn't have that healthy cadre of wrestling-experienced writers and executive like he did in the past. He and Kevin Dunn just go based on looks alone. Triple H isn't going to challenge him anytime soon and likely won't make his 'move' until Vince retires. I hear a healthy dose of how NXT has been doing extremely well and that's rumored to be Triple H's playground...so he is certainly doing well there. Unfortunately Vince and his Yes-Men (like Dunn) still run the WWE and it doesn't look to change until he leaves.

 

[karamazov80]

No, he's right about Triple H. . .who would make a great DC villain of some kind, by the way (has a great cosmetic look; not a lot of substance).

 

[jye4ever]

The thing DC has going for it is that there will always be a market to keep rebooting the Batman movies with new actors in the role of Batman. The mass audience will always go and watch new Batman movies. What does Marvel do after Infinity War Part 2, would audiences still go and see a reboot of Cap A, Thor or Ant-Man etc? I imagine Spider-Man will be their main focus.

I think Marvel MCU has built up a huge enough cinematic following for their primary and secondary characters to feel confident enough that customers will return for whatever they throw out.

But yeah, Batman is king.