Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[olbertfrog]

On the contrary, the WATCHMEN credits sequence is pure Zack (aside from the titles text itself... that was done by an FX company... Maybe that's what you heard Levin referring to?). Zack wrote and shot every image in that sequence (with the exception of the Hiroshima shot, which was all CG). He even filmed the"news" footage of a burning Vietcong seen on the black & white TV.

Edited to add: He even filmed a cool gag that he ultimately cut out of that sequence: The Comedian raising the U.S. flag on Iwo Jima BY HIMSELF. I guess he figured that might piss off one too many people.

The comedian at Iwo Jima



There is also a shot of Gugino posing for a painting with a Hitler look alike on his knees if im correct.

The Manhattan missiles transformed into leaves sequence was finalized?

 

[Super Goblin]

Not sure I really want to see any of these in a theater.....

I have no desire to See Deadpool...that will be a Saturday night special.....

I did want to see BVS until I saw the trailers...

I have Zero hope for SS

Or Civil War for that matter...

Or X-men

Right now pretty down on all comic movies.....

Lol it must suck to be you.

 

[cmiller99]

It's called superhero fatigue. I'm feeling it. Didn't watch a single CBM in the theatre last year.

 

[jye4ever]

How about we all just except the fact that no superhero movie will ever break The Force Awakens box office records.

Not even the mighty Batman.

 

[greygoose]

Are we talking worldwide box office for top 7? If we are, then I think it has a decent chance of making it. Age of Ultron is sitting at 7 worldwide and that film really shouldn't be that high.

If DC adds a Marvel sign to their advertising than BvS will double it's box office takings.

 

[jye4ever]

Ok, maybe a Marvel vs DC movie would.

 

[Rorywan]

WB must be seriously concerned by this kind of genre reporting.
It's gonna make a load of money no doubt, but long term they may be in a difficult situation.

Maybe JL will be a lot better as a result of the mediocre response to BVS marketing footage?


https://www.slashfilm.com/batman-v-superman-footage-supercut/#more-340534

 

[EVILFACE]

I can't believe that Batman just broke all The Force Awakens box office records.

 

[olbertfrog]

WB must be seriously concerned by this kind of genre reporting.
It's gonna make a load of money no doubt, but long term they may be in a difficult situation.

Maybe JL will be a lot better as a result of the mediocre response to BVS marketing footage?


https://www.slashfilm.com/batman-v-superman-footage-supercut/#more-340534

All the bat vs Supes. Edited together looks like we have a really awesome action sequence.

 

[batfan08]

WB must be seriously concerned by this kind of genre reporting.
It's gonna make a load of money no doubt, but long term they may be in a difficult situation.

Maybe JL will be a lot better as a result of the mediocre response to BVS marketing footage?


https://www.slashfilm.com/batman-v-superman-footage-supercut/#more-340534

I love the bit about "tonal missteps." Just goes to show that studios shouldn't give a **** what people want, because people don't know what they ****ing want. "DC is too dark," "DC is too edgy," "DC is supergrim and gritty," "Marvel knows how to have fun, unlike DC;" DC responds with "look! See? We can do levity," and people go "this ****ing sucks. Batman doesn't joke, Batman shouldn't joke."

 

[Baneofdemon22]

How about we all just except the fact that no superhero movie will ever break The Force Awakens box office records.

Not even the mighty Batman.

I'm really curious how Rogue One box office records will be. The mighty Batman might not be able to take on the Force Awakens, but can he take on Darth Vader? Batman is my boy, but I really like Darth Vader, so I'm happy either way.

 

[greygoose]

Ok, maybe a Marvel vs DC movie would.

And just call it 'Fanboys: World War'.

 

[Rorywan]

I'm really curious how Rogue One box office records will be. The mighty Batman might not be able to take on the Force Awakens, but can he take on Darth Vader? Batman is my boy, but I really like Darth Vader, so I'm happy either way.

I think Rogue One will do very well, but no where near TFA. It's not in the same league. But who knows, depends on how good the first trailer is.

 

[olbertfrog]

I love the bit about "tonal missteps." Just goes to show that studios shouldn't give a **** what people want, because people don't know what they ****ing want. "DC is too dark," "DC is too edgy," "DC is supergrim and gritty," "Marvel knows how to have fun, unlike DC;" DC responds with "look! See? We can do levity," and people go "this ****ing sucks. Batman doesn't joke, Batman shouldn't joke."

I really dont get why people still compare the two universes.
Some complain that DC should not rush to JLA unlike Marvel that builded up to Avengers.
Dc choose to go the other way, try something différent, the very sale people would complain if DC did the sale as Marvel.
The approaches are sooooo different, there is no wrong.
Im not even discussing about the original comics, ive read a few but never long arcs if runs (i follow the pencillers only), if superman/batman should be like this or like that.
This not the true definitive version of the characters, none of the live action incarnations were.
its Zack Snyder and co take on the material.
Either its up yur alley or not

 

[MegaPrime33]

The only reason I am not a fan at all with this new DC Cinematic Universe is the liberties they have taken with the two main characters. I get that Batman should be dark, but it feels like they're teasing whether or not he's killed or will kill. Superman really didn't put much effort in trying to save lives when battling Zod. It's just really dark and unfamiliar to me. It will take some getting used to I guess.

 

[jye4ever]

I love the bit about "tonal missteps." Just goes to show that studios shouldn't give a **** what people want, because people don't know what they ****ing want. "DC is too dark," "DC is too edgy," "DC is supergrim and gritty," "Marvel knows how to have fun, unlike DC;" DC responds with "look! See? We can do levity," and people go "this ****ing sucks. Batman doesn't joke, Batman shouldn't joke."

Well, this is certainly true with anything in life.

 

[Baneofdemon22]

I think Rogue One will do very well, but no where near TFA. It's not in the same league. But who knows, depends on how good the first trailer is.

That's why I put him against their most iconic character, as opposed a significant entry in the Star Wars canon. I don't think Batman could ever get close to that no matter how good his films are. Once the return of Star Wars hype is over, I'm really curious how the box office numbers will be for Star Wars anthology films. I don't have any interest in anyone outside of Vader, and I don't know any Star Wars fans outside of people seeing the movies when they're in the theater, so it should be interesting!

The only reason I am not a fan at all with this new DC Cinematic Universe is the liberties they have taken with the two main characters. I get that Batman should be dark, but it feels like they're teasing whether or not he's killed or will kill. Superman really didn't put much effort in trying to save lives when battling Zod. It's just really dark and unfamiliar to me. It will take some getting used to I guess.

There are so many different interpretations of these characters so you don't have to adjust if you don't want to. It's great that there's an interpretation for everybody since it keeps the characters alive. I'm sure no one wants to see my X-Men hanging out and playing sports on the big screen! I'm not a Superman fan, so I'm open to new interpretations, but with Batman, I like all different interpretations.

I would never want to see a Batman where it's ambiguous whether he's murdering people though. I like Batman when he's written by writers like Grant Morrison, where he's so crazy with his mental and physical work-outs, and developments of his contingency plans that he'll never allow that to happen. I don't mind him killing someone if he has to, but to murder a criminal—nope! I wouldn't like him anymore. We have the Punisher for that, and I hope Daredevil kicks his butt and locks him up in Daredevil Season 2.

 

[karamazov80]

Batman doesn't joke, Batman shouldn't joke."

Jokes are great. Just not stupid, unfunny jokes. . .Batman could do this sort of thing:

He's the straight man, obviously.

 

[jye4ever]

Jokes are great. Just not stupid, unfunny jokes like from that dumb Deadpool movie. . .Batman could do this sort of thing:

He's the straight man, obviously.

 

[IrishJedi]

I read that Spielberg allowed Snyder to shoot the scenes featuring the alien beings from outer space that appeared at the end of A.I. Artificial Intelligence. Do you have any more specifics about that Carl?

I'll murder!

I feel like AoU was yesterday. I need a break from that group. I'm sure Civil War will be very good/great but I'm more excited for BvS and SS by a pretty good margin.

One thing that I do like about the current calendar of all of these Marvel/DC releases is that they can possibly act as nice palette cleansers for each other. I'm serious, and mean that in a good way. After BvS we'll probably be ready for some Russo Bros Marvel. After that, Suicide Squad will be a nice change of pace, and so on...

It's often said that a movie needs to do double it's budget at the box office in order to be profitable, is that still the case for a movie that cost over $400 million dollars?

First off, almost half of that figure is the worldwide Marketing budget. The film's actual budget wasn't close to $400 million, and it only ran over (but not terribly) due to the schedule push dictated by WB.

I know that even if BVS is mediocre, it'll still likely make $1B worldwide, but what if, even after all the time and money spent, what if it's so terrible that it actually drives much of the audience away and loses money for the studio? Could something like that severely damage WB and future prospects for DC films?

That will only happen if it's a true bomb and makes less than,say $200 million domestically and $500mm worldwide. WB does not need to strike gold with this film, as they see it as an investment in the shared universe franchises. It really need only to "hold serve" and open the door for the future films. Anything more than that will be pure gravy.

Also, Warner is guaranteed to get back almost its entire $150-$200 marketing budget from promotional partnerships and tie-ins. And that's not even counting merchandise.

Long story short... This will have to be an historic bomb (and like JOHN CARTER bad, box office wise) for them to lose and for anything to really get derailed.