Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[IrishJedi]

Which order is best? Year One, then KJ, then TDKR?

Yeah, I'd say that's a pretty good order.

 

[Khev]

Will pick them up at Barnes & Noble today!

 

[jye4ever]

Don't forget the Prequel Trilogy Trade Paperback.

 

[Khev]

On a somewhat related note are there any "classic" WW trades? I literally have no knowledge of her save Lynda Carter, Super Friends, and now BvS.

 

[YoNoSe]

Nope, haven't read any of those. My comic experience with Batman is pretty dubious. He's always been a TV/film character to me for the most part. I read Knightfall and Spawn/Batman and John Byrne's 1940's Captain America/Batman crossover (which I liked) and that's pretty much it. Looking forward to finally getting into "the good stuff."

I envy you! You have a lot of great reading ahead of you! Enjoy!

 

[jye4ever]

On a somewhat related note are there any "classic" WW trades? I literally have no knowledge of her save Lynda Carter, Super Friends, and now BvS.

Now that one, just watch her animated movie.

 

[Khev]

Don't forget the Prequel Trilogy Trade Paperback.

I have enough firewood and toilet paper thanks.

 

[IrishJedi]

Now that one, just watch her animated movie.

This is pretty sound advice actually. Wonder Woman has had some decent comics over the years, but certainly nothing as seminal as TDKR/TKJ/Year One, etc.

Khev, also check out KINGDOM COME, an amazing, epic alternate-future apocalyptic graphic novel featuring pretty much ALL of the DC characters (including some good Wonder Woman stuff). Right up there with the others, imho. Plus it has pretty painted Alex Ross art throughout.

 

[Khev]

I'm becoming a DC comic fan!



(Though a friend did expose me to Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run a number of years back which were some of the most riveting comics I've ever read.)

 

[kryptonianmutie]

I don't know about classic, but if you want a good Batman & WW story then read Wonder Woman: The Hiketeia.

 

[siquisiri]

While odd, Batman:Vampire and BatmanL Gotham by Gaslight are kinda cool too

 

[Rorywan]

Which order is best? Year One, then KJ, then TDKR?

Yes, that's pretty good. Although there is something very cool about being launched into the world of TDKR before going back to read Year One. Killing Joke is fluffy read but very cool. I would leave that last.

 

[The Clown Prince of Crime]

He isn't a god at all, in fact I'd probably argue that he's the *least* godlike of all live-action Supermen. Because just being indestructible doesn't make you divine. Hell we might as well call Wolverine or Captain Man from Henry Danger "gods" then. To me a god figure needs to have an unshakable moral code, a sense of purpose and idealism far above mortal men that coincides with his "powers." Cavill Supes doesn't have that. In fact I'd even argue that Evans Cap is a more apt "Christ figure" (especially in The First Avenger) than Cavill.

He was more human in MOS. You're right, he's not a god in this film, he's a robot with issues, which is not who Superman is. The more I look at Capt in those Marvel films, the more I see a Superman in him. He still struggles with being from another time and losing everyone he knew, but is he all mopey, felling sorry for himself like some emo brat, no..he still has a sense of humor, he smiles, he's angry when he has to be, and he gets the job done.

Cavill is a guy just trying to do what's right with a set of plays that no one can run but him and he's trying to practice it all under intense trial-by-fire circumstances and fierce scrutiny. When he sat in the burning Capital all I saw was a good guy going "****, I am so freaking in over my head here, I'm dealing with evil that I haven't even acknowledged exists yet..." and that really rattled him. Would Steve Rogers have sat there? Of course not, because he's got his Messiah **** together. But Supes isn't there yet. He needs help and experience and a little bit of faith and I think we can all relate to that on some level.

So now he's just a guy trying to do the right thing...but not in MOS when he was trying to save the world on his first day as Sups? Sups gets a pass in MOS because he was truly in over his head, but in this film? No..he doesn't even act like a normal person. He's always frowning and mopey...as if being Superman is such a terrible thing. There's a big explosion, and he just stands there...feeling sorry for himself, instead of searching for survivor in that building. I can't blame him with a mother like Martha Kent...telling him he doesn't owe anything to anyone

I honestly predict that this film will rise from its own ashes and be appreciated more and more as time goes on.

You mean from the dirt?

 

[Rorywan]

This is pretty sound advice actually. Wonder Woman has had some decent comics over the years, but certainly nothing as seminal as TDKR/TKJ/Year One, etc.

Khev, also check out KINGDOM COME, an amazing, epic alternate-future apocalyptic graphic novel featuring pretty much ALL of the DC characters (including some good Wonder Woman stuff). Right up there with the others, imho. Plus it has pretty painted Alex Ross art throughout.

KINGDOM COME is beautiful, huge Alex Ross fan. I would leave it until after those 3 mentioned already though. everytime I look at Ross' work, I wish someone would make a movie in that style, with coloured Lycra and crazy suits. It's the perfect interpretation IMO.

 

[EVILFACE]

I'm becoming a DC comic fan!



(Though a friend did expose me to Alan Moore's Swamp Thing run a number of years back which were some of the most riveting comics I've ever read.)

The Anatomy Lesson..........

 

[Rorywan]

Same here.

Did you read Batman: THE CULT? That was interesting as well.

Nope. *goes to Amazon.com*

 

[Sweet Rabbit]

All I hear is her talkin' some ********

 

[IrishJedi]

KINGDOM COME is beautiful, huge Alex Ross fan. I would leave it until after those 3 mentioned already though. everytime I look at Ross' work, I wish someone would make a movie in that style, with coloured Lycra and crazy suits. It's the perfect interpretation IMO.

Again, agreed... including leaving it for last. Not just because it came out more recently (if 1994 is recent), but because it (along with, arguably The Long Halloween and All-Star Superman) are the last DC graphic novels to come out that truly transcend the medium.

 

[Khev]

karamazov just IM'd me that the "dark 80's stuff" sucks and that I should go with these instead?

 

[IrishJedi]

Nice try.