Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

[IrishJedi]

TFA also failed to make a billion domestic and 3 billion worldwide.

 

[Khev]

I'll be very curious to see where Marvel and DC go with these franchises when their current incarnations (casts, etc.,) are over. West, Keaton, Kilmer, Bale, and Affleck have all played very different Batmen for instance each in their own unique pocket universe. No reboot has ever really overlapped that which had come before. I wonder where they'll go next?

I guess Marvel already replaced Bruce Banner while keeping the "universe" intact so maybe we won't see much difference over the years with the MCU.

 

[jye4ever]

Anyone know the formula, studios keep half of box office?

Theaters keep the other 50% cut plus 100% concessions obviously.

You guys should google how much the theaters made on concessions for TDK/TFA, .... the record holders.

 

[spindrift]

When RDJ is done they will have a different chracter/actor play IM..I hope. Biggest mistake ever would be trying to keep Stark and cast a look/act-a-like for him

 

[Khev]

When RDJ is done they will have a different chracter/actor play IM..I hope. Biggest mistake ever would be trying to keep Stark and cast a look/act-a-like for him

I think Disney will do just that. They've referenced James Bond on more than one occasion, basically just having different actors playing the same "ever young" characters like the ones we have in the comics. I don't know that they'll replace RDJ with someone who'll impersonate him (just like Roger Moore didn't impersonate Connery) but he'll definitely still be playing Tony Stark.

 

[spindrift]

I think Disney will do just that. They've referenced James Bond on more than one occasion, basically just having different actors playing the same "ever young" characters like the ones we have in the comics.

good 'ol Disney....

 

[greygoose]

I think Disney will do just that. They've referenced James Bond on more than one occasion, basically just having different actors playing the same "ever young" characters like the ones we have in the comics. I don't know that they'll replace RDJ with someone who'll impersonate him (just like Roger Moore didn't impersonate Connery) but he'll definitely still be playing Tony Stark.

So unlike the Batman movies where each one is technically a reboot Disney will just keep on replacing actors and keep the stories set within the same universe? Is it not possible we'll see a Iron Man origins reboot within the next few years?

 

[Khev]

So unlike the Batman movies where each one is technically a reboot Disney will just keep on replacing actors and keep the stories set within the same universe?

I believe that's the plan. Beats doing a new origin movie a la Spider-Man every 10 years IMO.

 

[Cap'n Cook]

Jeremy Renner is rumoured to be RDJ's replacement. But that leaves them with another problem.

 

[Rorywan]

First off, a 55-70% 2nd weekend drop-off isn't at all unusual. Secondly; that's just Domestic. I think people tend to forget that this film will make 60-70% of its box office overseas.

Hmmm.. Don't think I can agree there Irish. 60-70% drop off is not good or normal for a movie with zero new competition.
Deadline are reporting on this quite strongly, the point being is that it shows a massive lack of interest in a new movie, it validates the studios worst fears that the curtain has dropped from the prerelease hype and that audiences won't come back for another dose of the same medicine with JL.
Once bitten twice shy.

 

[Khev]

Disney/Marvel definitely owns any release date they want for the foreseeable future. No way will WB/DC dare to go toe to toe with them.

 

[jye4ever]

WB should've just released the R cut.

 

[crows]

Anyone know the formula, studios keep half of box office?

Theaters keep the other 50% cut plus 100% concessions obviously.

You guys should google how much the theaters made on concessions for TDK/TFA, .... the record holders.

I think China keeps 75% of ticket money if I remember correctly. Other countries keep 50-75%

Theaters in the US it depends on the studio, George Lucas made theaters give him 90% of the money for the first weeks of the prequels being in theaters .
after a couple of weeks they got more. some studios ask for more, some get half.

 

[Khev]

WB should've just released the R cut.

I already didn't take my kids because of the tub scene. Might as well have just made it full R if the PG-13 version is going to have elements unsuitable for small children.

 

[Rorywan]

WB should've just released the R cut.

Yeah I agree. It's strengths to me anyway is when it got closer to Watchmen and the classic hardcore Batman novels.
This surely has been a disaster selling toys to kids. It's just not the right tone for kids.

 

[ironwez20]

Remember when this movie was gonna go toe to toe with civil war? I wonder what that've been like.

 

[Victοr]

I agree about the R. If DC wants to be all "serious" and "mature", why care for the "kiddies", as others put it? Go full-on R then. Give me a Batman movie that's like Fincher's thrillers for example.

 

[jye4ever]

I think China keeps 75% of ticket money if I remember correctly. Other countries keep 50-75%

Theaters in the US it depends on the studio, George Lucas made theaters give him 90% of the money for the first weeks of the prequels being in theaters .
after a couple of weeks they got more. some studios ask for more, some get half.

Thanks crows, wow with GL.

I already didn't take my kids because of the tub scene. Might as well have just made it full R if the PG-13 version is going to have elements unsuitable for small children.

I was crazy for taking my 7 year old son as it is had it been an R probably not.

Notice that I didn't say definately not.

Yeah I agree. It's strengths to me anyway is when it got closer to Watchmen and the classic hardcore Batman novels.
This surely has been a disaster selling toys to kids. It's just not the right time for kids.

I don't get your toy comment but toys have become a grown up thing now.

 

[jye4ever]

I agree about the R. If DC wants to be all "serious" and "mature", why care for the "kiddies", as others put it? Go full-on R then. Give me a Batman movie that's like Fincher's thrillers for example.

I want to agree but I guess they still want to go slightly young so no full blown Fincher.

 

[karamazov80]

I'll be very curious to see where Marvel and DC go with these franchises when their current incarnations (casts, etc.,) are over. West, Keaton, Kilmer, Bale, and Affleck have all played very different Batmen for instance each in their own unique pocket universe. No reboot has ever really overlapped that which had come before. I wonder where they'll go next?

I guess Marvel already replaced Bruce Banner while keeping the "universe" intact so maybe we won't see much difference over the years with the MCU.

With DC, it's a total crap shoot. But with Marvel Studios, they are so successful that I don't see any changes for at least 5 or 6 years. Unless Avengers 3 flops or something.

Recasting RDJ would be a terrible mistake. Because that character is simply RDJ. With Banner, and Rhodey, and even potentially with Cap or Thor or Spidey I don't think it would matter nearly as much (though with Evans being the other marquee guy, I don't think they would recast him, either). But for that single character I do not imagine it happening.

I already didn't take my kids because of the tub scene. Might as well have just made it full R if the PG-13 version is going to have elements unsuitable for small children.

Tub scene doesn't bother me for kids (I must have a more European sensibility when it comes to that kind of thing), but the vibe of sadness and despair draping over everything does. Also, the brutality of the Batman fights. I'm talking < 10 year olds, though. If I were 12, I would have probably fell in love with this movie.