Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice (March 24th, 2016)

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Re: Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice

What?

Man this thread sucks, some people hate it when you put up a good argument.

It seems it's better to just nod and not question the status quo.

:thud:

You just fed the troll though. :lol
 
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In all seriousness though for some of you guys that loathe how Superman was portrayed in MOS how could BvS "make up" for it? Just have Supes behave as he should from here on out? Or specifically address the problems in MOS in BvS by having Batman call him on the destruction or have some lip service that every building that collapsed was vacant, etc?

The movie is trying to portray a grounded look so all that destruction is what would happen if you super powered being had a fight in the heart of a city not to mentions in flows over in to the this movie as the reason why batman is going after superman to let him know that that earth is not defenseless and if he ever were to try and do something they would stand up to him.

On another note I love how the movie that is 2 years away is getting all they hype just by posting little pics while the one that is coming out next year can is not getting the same level of coverage.
 
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What?

Man this thread sucks,

Now you know how I feel in the ASM2 thread. :lol

You see I like MOS though, I just don't really like a lot of the arguments used to defend it. Supes had a couple of sloppy victories that were hella fun to watch. I think you can just leave it at that. It doesn't have to be compared to The Avengers or TWS or even STM because honestly its just going to come up short in a lot of areas. But as a "messy Superman" movie it really does get the job done. :) I don't know that anyone actually asked for that kind of Superman movie but now that its here, all right I'll take it. The worst parts of the movie aren't the destruction, or even the tornado, its just his jerk *** attitude in parts. That's what gets me.

I just wish he wasn't a **** about things. I think a lot of people wanted STM but with awesome fights and 2013 visuals. I think Singer kind of tried to give us that. He failed of course, because Superman didn't actually fight anyone but how many times should WB try and perfect the same kind of movie. Reeve + Williams + fights, Reeve + Williams + fights. I think we just need to accept that we got awesome Reeve movies, we got awesome John Williams, and now we've got awesome fights. They apparently were just never destined to exist in the same movie.

So now we've got an unrefined Superman who's a bit of a jerk at times. All right, I guess that's different, and a bit odd, we'll just have to see where they go with that. :)
 
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So could these guys.

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And there were more than three. :lecture

I loved that in TransFormers 3.
 
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Reeve + Williams + fights, Reeve + Williams + fights. I think we just need to accept that we got awesome Reeve movies, we got awesome John Williams, and now we've got awesome fights. They apparently were just never destined to exist in the same movie.

Nail on the ****ing head. That's what pisses me off so much. People act like a Reeve-esque movie, using the Williams music, could never have had awesome fights. I disagree completely. And it pisses me right off, because I guarantee any sequel to Superman Returns would have corrected the 'no fights' problem. But no, reboot.....because reboot.
 
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Now you know how I feel in the ASM2 thread. :lol

You see I like MOS though, I just don't really like a lot of the arguments used to defend it. Supes had a couple of sloppy victories that were hella fun to watch. I think you can just leave it at that. It doesn't have to be compared to The Avengers or TWS or even STM because honestly its just going to come up short in a lot of areas. But as a "messy Superman" movie it really does get the job done. :) I don't know that anyone actually asked for that kind of Superman movie but now that its here, all right I'll take it. The worst parts of the movie aren't the destruction, or even the tornado, its just his jerk *** attitude in parts. That's what gets me.

I just wish he wasn't a **** about things. I think a lot of people wanted STM but with awesome fights and 2013 visuals. I think Singer kind of tried to give us that. He failed of course, because Superman didn't actually fight anyone but how many times should WB try and perfect the same kind of movie. Reeve + Williams + fights, Reeve + Williams + fights. I think we just need to accept that we got awesome Reeve movies, we got awesome John Williams, and now we've got awesome fights. They apparently were just never destined to exist in the same movie.

So now we've got an unrefined Superman who's a bit of a jerk at times. All right, I guess that's different, and a bit odd, we'll just have to see where they go with that. :)

Someone said that if we combined Returns and MoS we'd get the perfect Superman movie, I agree.
 
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Someone said that if we combined Returns and MoS we'd get the perfect Superman movie, I agree.

Yep and they could do it even now but apparently just don't want to. Williams is obviously up for more SW, I'm sure he would have loved to come back for Superman as well.
 
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Yep and they could do it even now but apparently just don't want to. Williams is obviously up for more SW, I'm sure he would have loved to come back for Superman as well.

Who did they get for Ep7's score? I'm not keeping track on that thread.

Gaspar, this would be your Superman costume. :lol

Lois: "What does the crotch stand for?"

Only if it stands for hope too.
 
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It's still valid, you weren't able to refute it :lol



I answered those questions back then, what's up with your memory? "They weren't able to hurt him" they KOd him twice or 3 times, and about the scratches, neither Faora, nor Zod had any scratches, hematomas or bruises at all, so, how does that not say "match"?

In fact, Nam-Ek clearly was more powerful than Supes in sheer brute force.

Yup, that I agree with (but then again, you don't see Thor getting any bruises either), but that has little to do with the topic at hand... We're talking about whether the "Superman 1st day out" stands.



That was also answered previously and you didn't have a rebuttal for that, the neck is a delicate spot in the body, you end up in a wrong position, and someone twists your neck to the side a little too much, you're done, even if the person doing so is smaller or weaker than you.



You forgot the part where you explain why exactly it's weak, are you saying that the World Engine was less dangerous than the Chitauri? Because that would be dumb :lol


There's nothing wrong with my memory, bro. It just gets tiring when every one of your, "explanations" aren't explanations at all, they're just excuses.

You never answer or explain anything, you just make an excuse. If someone says, "Hopeman was irresponsible crashing through the buildings", you come back and say, "The buildings were evacuated".

See, that's not an explanation, that's an excuse. Just like the whole, "Kal is still green" BS.

33 years old with super intelligence and you talk about him like he's some **** head 14 year old, and than say you explained it.

I'm going by what film makers set up, and so should you. The whole acclimation thing was what we were told. The scene with HM in grade school showed that he was here for YEARS, and he still wasn't used to it. How old was he there, 10 or 12? Even if he was younger, he still wasn't used to it. Zod and co are here for what, 5 minutes and they're a little woozy? And then 5 minutes later they're fine and just as strong? He's here for 33 years, and they're here for 15 minutes and they're his physical match? That doesn't add up or even make sense. Sloppy.

If Hopeman doesn't have any injuries, than they SHOULD. because they're not evenly matched, going by what we were told.

So why don't they? And please don't say their, "training". Because training or even, "sheer brute force" isn't going to make you not get hurt if you get hit, even if they were evenly matched, which they weren't. My point about Doomsday was just an example of SM getting hurt.

Even your neck explanation was an excuse. You keep talking about it like they're normal humans. You're trying to say that Zod can go through all that damage, but jerking his head to one side kills him?

Again, it doesn't add up. Sloppy.

My lack of a rebuttal at the time was that I found it funny, but I never agreed with it. It's dumb, and certainly not an explanation, just one more excuse.

And yes, the World Engine WAS stupid. It was just another opportunity for GoyDer to show more damage. The video that was made would have been a much better ending, in every way.


You keep acting like this is some game where you win something. Well guess what? POS was made the way it was made, so we all lose.
 
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Who needs John Williams when we have Hans Gruberman.
 
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In all seriousness though for some of you guys that loathe how Superman was portrayed in MOS how could BvS "make up" for it? Just have Supes behave as he should from here on out? Or specifically address the problems in MOS in BvS by having Batman call him on the destruction or have some lip service that every building that collapsed was vacant, etc?

I'm guessing since BvS looks to rip off the ***-kicking scene from TDKR (the real one, not that Nolan crap), I'd say the latter part of your scenario fits. Which would lead to the stupid not-even-single film self-imposed "banishment" Gaspar was talking about. :lol

Are you kidding me? :lol those things slowed down when they hit a building, the hulk managed to KO one with a single punch, if it was Supes punching it that thing would've gotten some serious air, it would've been a picnic day for Supes.

Besides, it wasn't just Thor or Hulk fighting them, there was a whole team.

The Teen Titans could've handled the Chitauri with ease.



Not true, they had faced Loki before and each already had plenty of experience on their own, plus they had SHIELD providing them with resources, intel or at least organization.

Doubtful. In the DCCU, they'd probably be relegated to the CW arguing over tights and boyfriends (even the guys), while the city was destroyed.
 
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