Better Trilogy: Raimi's Spider-Man or Nolan's Dark Knight?

[Adolfo]

What Alfred did serve, which certainly wouldn't have had to be changed, is a counterpoint to John Blake and others who didn't feel that a man in Bruce's position was doing enough. Quitting for 8 years and letting orphanages lose their funding were BAD choices. Giving his life would have made up for those much more than donating a mansion that no longer meant anything to him.

Bad choices are a part of life...sometimes youre stuck for some reason or another...welcome to the real world

 

[Khev]

So a guy cant retire?

Of course he can. The discussion was whether or not the preceding 140 minutes or whatever were setting the hero up to die or retire. intothevoid said he HAD to retire for the movie to work. I disagree. It could have gone either way and still worked.

 

[thenammagazine]

Tha ****.......

Remove "Tha" and you got it!

 

[abake]

Only if you vote Dark Knight, because clearly you'd be sitting on one.

So I take it you like the Spiderman trilogy better?

Damn, this thread really grew... will go back and read through it!

 

[Adolfo]

Of course he can. The discussion was whether or not the preceding 140 minutes or whatever were setting the hero up to die or retire. intothevoid said he HAD to retire for the movie to work. I disagree. It could have gone either way and still worked.

I will agree on that...but I still liked the ending anyway

 

[Khev]

I will agree on that...but I still liked the ending anyway

I did too, though I can't help slightly feeling that Bruce comes off as the Tony Stark that Captain America criticized. The one who always has a way out and is afraid to make the sacrifice play.

 

[thenammagazine]

So I take it you like the Spiderman trilogy better?

Damn, this thread really grew... will go back and read through it!

I think both almost parallel each other perfectly. It's just a matter of which Underoos the dorks are wearing.

 

[Adolfo]

I did too, though I can't help slightly feel that Bruce comes off as the Tony Stark that Captain America criticized. The one who always has a way out and is afraid to make the sacrifice play.

True...but it's like that for the rich and smart sometimes

 

[VintijDroidGutzz]

I really would've loved to see Raimi give S4 a shot, ah well.

 

[Khev]

I really would've loved to see Raimi give S4 a shot, ah well.

Why so we could have seen a Spidey villain flash mob? Because you know that's where the series was heading after 3.

 

[CHUYHA85]

I voted Spiderman, love TDK but it was the first time spidey got that hollywood treatment while the TDK was a new fresh take.

Still I like them both.

 

[thenammagazine]

Why so we could have seen a Spidey villain flash mob? Because you know that's where the series was heading after 3.

I'm certain if the execs had kept their opinions to themselves, we wouldn't have had to see Venom destroy SM3 and would likely be enjoying the 6th or 7th entry into the franchise instead of being force fed a remake of Raimi's film with a ********* Parker and laughable antagonist wanting to turn the world into lizard people.

 

[Khev]

But Venom isn't an inherently unfilmable villain. Raimi didn't have to MAKE it stupid.

 

[thenammagazine]

But Venom isn't an inherently unfilmable villain. Raimi didn't have to MAKE it stupid.

He didn't have much of a choice. They wanted Venom in it last minute and to even shoehorn the Brock story in correctly would've required considerably more time than the studio was allowing.

 

[karamazov80]

Why so we could have seen a Spidey villain flash mob? Because you know that's where the series was heading after 3.

LOL I kinda would like to see the logical extension of 2nd half of Spidey 3. If it gets even more bat**** crazy, then would it actually be bad, or could it somehow be awesome?

And while I agree that forcing Venom into the movie seemed to screw everything up, nothing justifies emo Parker. . .unless Raimi was really just giving the studio a huge middle finger, which is possible.

 

[Ramatuelle]

Unfortunately, S-M cannot possibly win if only because of the absolutely Lovecraftian horror that was S-M3. That was honestly one of the worst superhero movies I have ever seen.

When a third of your franchise is crap, crap MEGA-CRAP thats just all she wrote. Unfortunately I have to hand it to Bats this time out, the Nolan films are excessively convoluted and talky-talky, but overall more consistent in quality.

MJ and Harry making omelets, Peter jivin' down the street..... god I hate to even think back on it.

 

[Khev]

He didn't have much of a choice. They wanted Venom in it last minute and to even shoehorn the Brock story in correctly would've required considerably more time than the studio was allowing.

I see. What about Harry though? I though his involvement in the story was even worse than Venom's.

 

[Khev]

Unfortunately, S-M cannot possibly win if only because of the absolutely Lovecraftian horror that was S-M3. That was honestly one of the worst superhero movies I have ever seen.

When a third of your franchise is crap, crap MEGA-CRAP thats just all she wrote. Unfortunately I have to hand it to Bats this time out, the Nolan films are excessively convoluted and talky-talky, but overall more consistent in quality.

MJ and Harry making omelets, Peter jivin' down the street..... god I hate to even think back on it.

Yeah, it really is one of the greatest drops in quality from one film in a series to another in cinematic history. Lots of trilogies have weak third entries, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien, Terminator, but man it was like Spider-Man went from "The Empire Strikes Back" immediately to "Batman and Robin."

 

[karamazov80]

Yeah, it really is one of the greatest drops in quality from one film in a series to another in cinematic history. Lots of trilogies have weak third entries, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Alien, Terminator, but man it was like Spider-Man went from "The Empire Strikes Back" immediately to "Batman and Robin."

I dunno. The dropoff from T2 to T3 was pretty damn steep!

 

[Khev]

"Talk to da hand."

I'm surprised that John never said, "Cool, a gay terminator."