Bikers chase down family in SUV in New York

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Reports are that they were bashing his vehicle with their helmets and slashing his tires. What in the hell do you want him to do? Wait around to see if they are really upset or just joshing with him?

They just wanted to ask him if he had any Grey Poupon. :lol

I wonder if it would've been alright if it was a $50k SUV.

Under $25k would have been A-Okay. :lecture
 
this video would make a great training video.............on what not to do on a motorcycle.

DO NOT ride one handed trying to look cool or intimidating while short stopping a moving vehicle behind you.......:lecture
 
Lots of keyboard cowboys here who probably can't relate to any of the events happening here. How many of you actually ride?

I don't support either side of who is right or who is at fault. They all look like @ssh0l3s on that video. Facts are...the bikers who committed a crime were arrested or are being sought after. Good. These guys are douch3s. But the driver of the SUV has got to pay for what he did as well. You can't just run over people and crush them under your $100k SUV because they are sitting in front of you. He's got to pay too.

I don't do this crap or ride in groups or gangs or rallies. I've ridden all across the country from NJ to California and back on a loop of 9,000 miles in 22 days. I always try to ride where there are no cars and no people and no danger of me getting killed by the idiots in cages who have no idea what is going on around them because they are talking on their bluetooth or texting or whatever. Fact is I treat every car out on the road like they are trying to kill me. If you don't, they just might end up doing so.

Bikers are as bad a set of drivers as people in cars. I've lost count how many times I've seen someone zoom in and out of traffic on their bike just because its smaller than the cars. So let's not act like Bikers are some innocent set of the driving public.
 
if youre on a motorcycle you have to ride defensively. Its like being at Walmart. Assume everyone is going to run into you as they wander around oblivious to the world around them.

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you seem just as angry/judgemental as the "keyboard cowboys" .... :monkey1

Not angry or judgmental at all. I just watched the video is all.

Reports are that they were bashing his vehicle with their helmets and slashing his tires. What in the hell do you want him to do? Wait around to see if they are really upset or just joshing with him?

The smashing of windows and all that took place well after he already ran over the people from the video.

Bikers are as bad a set of drivers as people in cars. I've lost count how many times I've seen someone zoom in and out of traffic on their bike just because its smaller than the cars. So let's not act like Bikers are some innocent set of the driving public.

Sure, there definitely are those types of riders. They weave in and out of traffic recklessly. But then again, there are also PLENTY of people in cars doing the same thing. Weaving in and out of traffic recklessly. A biker weaving in and out hits a car....he's gonna lose. Every time. A car driving recklessly in and out of traffic hits a guy on a bike....guess who loses again.

My point is there are FAR more people who ride motorcycles who are aware of their surroundings on the road than the people in cars around them. It's just the way it is.

I'm not saying they're aren't d-bags on bikes. Obviously there are. This video is an example. But if the world came to more people riding motorcycles, it would be safer on the road because they FORCE you to pay attention if you want to stay alive. Plus most people wouldn't be able to pass the test too :lol This doesn't relate to the video but, people pretend to know what it's like to be on a bike but they have no idea. It may look like I'm "riding fast and recklessly and weaving in front of cars" but the truth is I'm just trying to get myself away from a dangerous situation with you and your car. So yea, I'll speed up to pass you to get to a safer part of the road so I know you can't turn into me and kill me. That's all :peace
 
Reports are that they were bashing his vehicle with their helmets and slashing his tires. What in the hell do you want him to do? Wait around to see if they are really upset or just joshing with him?

No doubt.
The driver took off in self defense.
 
The dumbikers were already attacking him before he ran them down. They surrounded him and tried to slash his tires and break into the car.

So yes. They deserved to get run over.
 
The smashing of windows and all that took place well after he already ran over the people from the video.

Not according to the stories I've read. Stories I've read say that the bikers started damaging his vehicle during the initial stop. I did read that the window was smashed during the last stop but banging their helmets on the vehicle and slashing tires occurred during the initial stop.

You know it plain to see that you like bikes and you're certainly entitled to that. And we all know that all motorcyclist don't act like these guys. But there comes a time when you just have to call a spade a spade and say that these guys ****ed up and the guy in the SUV was not at fault.
 
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But the driver of the SUV has got to pay for what he did as well. You can't just run over people and crush them under your $100k SUV because they are sitting in front of you. He's got to pay too.

As a father of 3, I can't fault this guy for protecting his family. Under attack, he got them out of there (albeit temporarily) regardless of harm to his attackers.

The whole mess is disturbing.
 
I'm not saying the guys didn't f---- up. They certainly are a bunch of losers. All I said was the SUV driver also needs to get some type of punishment. Regardless if he was just trying to get his family away from them he nearly killed somebody doing so. And from the video the guy that got run over was sitting on his bike in front of the car. So it didn't seem like the guy that got hit was slashing his tires and bashing his helmet against the car. If someone was attacking me it doesn't make it ok for me to them attack someone else just to escape my attacker.

And yes the whole thing is disturbing.
 
this video would make a great training video.............on what not to do on a motorcycle.

DO NOT ride one handed trying to look cool or intimidating while short stopping a moving vehicle behind you.......:lecture

I would ride with Barryoooo anytime! :)
 
I'm not saying the guys didn't f---- up. They certainly are a bunch of losers. All I said was the SUV driver also needs to get some type of punishment. Regardless if he was just trying to get his family away from them he nearly killed somebody doing so. And from the video the guy that got run over was sitting on his bike in front of the car. So it didn't seem like the guy that got hit was slashing his tires and bashing his helmet against the car. If someone was attacking me it doesn't make it ok for me to them attack someone else just to escape my attacker.

And yes the whole thing is disturbing.

Sorry, they were acting like a gang. The ones he ran over were blocking him in. They were helping commit the crimes.
 
Well, I watched the video. I've read many reports. I've seen the guy who is currently in the hospital paralyzed (the biker), and seen the interview where one of the bikers who witnessed all this said that there is more to the story that takes place before the video.

I'm trying to be as open minded about this as possible, since I know several bikers and some are relatives who ride in these squads of riders. But, apparently riders were antagonizing the guy driving the Rover because he didn't pull over and let all the riders pass and he supposedly cut someone off. At that point, I'm thinking so what? People get cut off all the time and since when should any other driver pull over because and endless parade of motorcycles wants to coast by going 40mph (according to the riders they were all doing the speed limit)? From the video, you have them swarming this Range Rover and brake checking them to initiate the conflict. That seems like the riders asking for trouble in my opinion.

Then you have bikers literally park and stop in front of this guy and bring him to a complete stop. There's got to be at the very least 200 people around this guy who is with his wife and child. The video shows people getting off their bikes and walking over to the truck and that's when he accelerates and runs of people and bikes alike. In my opinion, he was not the aggressor and did what he had to to protect his family. As he should.

Now, maybe he was driving like a douche and it wasn't caught on camera. But we've all had to deal with a-hole drivers and it never gives us a free pass at retaliation. If this guy actually hit or ran over a biker before the events of the video, then yeah he's a total **** and I'm glad the bikers took justice in their own hands (but didn't harm the wife or child). That's a big "IF". But from the looks of it, or my understanding, that didn't at all happen.
 
Not to sound like a keyboard cowboy. However I assure you if my vehicle was being attacked with sharp objects by a mob while my kids were in the car, I would have acted the same way. He was absolutely justified running over those people to get out of harms way. I wouldn't have stopped in traffic either. He should have put it in reverse and ran more of them over.

:lecture Amen to this. I'm not gonna hang around waiting for them to decide how far they want to take it.
 
Well, I watched the video. I've read many reports. I've seen the guy who is currently in the hospital paralyzed (the biker), and seen the interview where one of the bikers who witnessed all this said that there is more to the story that takes place before the video.

I'm trying to be as open minded about this as possible, since I know several bikers and some are relatives who ride in these squads of riders. But, apparently riders were antagonizing the guy driving the Rover because he didn't pull over and let all the riders pass and he supposedly cut someone off. At that point, I'm thinking so what? People get cut off all the time and since when should any other driver pull over because and endless parade of motorcycles wants to coast by going 40mph (according to the riders they were all doing the speed limit)? From the video, you have them swarming this Range Rover and brake checking them to initiate the conflict. That seems like the riders asking for trouble in my opinion.

Then you have bikers literally park and stop in front of this guy and bring him to a complete stop. There's got to be at the very least 200 people around this guy who is with his wife and child. The video shows people getting off their bikes and walking over to the truck and that's when he accelerates and runs of people and bikes alike. In my opinion, he was not the aggressor and did what he had to to protect his family. As he should.

Now, maybe he was driving like a douche and it wasn't caught on camera. But we've all had to deal with a-hole drivers and it never gives us a free pass at retaliation. If this guy actually hit or ran over a biker before the events of the video, then yeah he's a total **** and I'm glad the bikers took justice in their own hands (but didn't harm the wife or child). That's a big "IF". But from the looks of it, or my understanding, that didn't at all happen.
And I agree with what you're saying about being cut off and so what. I've been cut off before as well as most on here I'm sure. You get pissed of, say a couple curse words, and you're over it. If the driver of the SUV did hurt someone then you get his license plate number and call the police. They sure didn't have a problem catching him. They had plenty of witnesses if he did something wrong.
 
I'm not saying the guys didn't f---- up. They certainly are a bunch of losers. All I said was the SUV driver also needs to get some type of punishment. Regardless if he was just trying to get his family away from them he nearly killed somebody doing so. And from the video the guy that got run over was sitting on his bike in front of the car. So it didn't seem like the guy that got hit was slashing his tires and bashing his helmet against the car. If someone was attacking me it doesn't make it ok for me to them attack someone else just to escape my attacker.

And yes the whole thing is disturbing.

"excuse me...motorcycle gang? would you mind getting out of the way of my vehicle as i would like to make an attempt at getting away from your friends that are beating the s*** out of my car and slashing my tires. thank you for your courtesy and have a great day!"
 
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